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Wireless G Networking Issues - Can't Copy Large Files

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Microsoft Newsgroups

#1
After upgrading to vista, my hp dv2000t laptop can't copy large files
from/to shares on other computers (including xp and an hp mediavault nas).
When I connect the laptop to a wired connection, it works fine.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
 
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Michael A. Bishop \(MSFT\)

#2
What do you mean by "can't copy"? Does it refuse to start the copy
procedure? Does the transfer fail mid-way? Does the wireless connection go
down during the transfer? You need to tell us what the problem is before we
can give useful suggestions. Otherwise, we're just guessing.

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> After upgrading to vista, my hp dv2000t laptop can't copy large files
> from/to shares on other computers (including xp and an hp mediavault nas).
> When I connect the laptop to a wired connection, it works fine.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
 
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acfreema

#3
i will explain the issues that i'm having, because this seems to be the
same issue.

I just upgraded to vista ultimate 64, and i'm hating the networking
aspects. i keep a lot of my data on my server: disc images, films,
back-ups in comressed folders, etc, and i can't transfer them
(consistently) over the wireless. i drag and drop the file on my
desktop, a box appears "calculating..." and then it disappears after a
couple of minutes, but no actual transfer takes place.

if i use ethernet, no problems. at my house, we keep images on the
server because it's faster that using the actual cd/dvd for programs
that require them. with the kind of latency and slow disk i/o of my
hdd, it's MUCH faster to use the gigabit connection to a raid5 server.
with wireless, suddenly, there's no point in using the server for these
tasks, it's a pathetic mess.

i disabled autotuning, because it's ridiculous and hampers networking.
i disabled compression for transfers, because that's an even worse idea.
over ethernet, i can send/receive at 30% with my current settings.
using wireless, my transfers are limited to 1.5MB/s, but rarely even 1.
it's faster to use bittorrent over my lan with vista! that is the only
way i see transfers of at least 2MB/s. these hurdles are the main
things holding me back from upgrading my wireless network to n; i'm sure
i won't get anywhere near the bandwidth that n supports (look at the
abysmal g speeds)


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Bob F.

#4
Lots of rambling, crying and other irrelevant data. Now, what hardware
items do you have? What distances are we talking about? What did you
upgrade from and was it working before? And what other details do you notice
about your setup that might give us a clue about what's wrong?

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"acfreema" <acfreema.36bts6@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
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>
> i will explain the issues that i'm having, because this seems to be the
> same issue.
>
> I just upgraded to vista ultimate 64, and i'm hating the networking
> aspects. i keep a lot of my data on my server: disc images, films,
> back-ups in comressed folders, etc, and i can't transfer them
> (consistently) over the wireless. i drag and drop the file on my
> desktop, a box appears "calculating..." and then it disappears after a
> couple of minutes, but no actual transfer takes place.
>
> if i use ethernet, no problems. at my house, we keep images on the
> server because it's faster that using the actual cd/dvd for programs
> that require them. with the kind of latency and slow disk i/o of my
> hdd, it's MUCH faster to use the gigabit connection to a raid5 server.
> with wireless, suddenly, there's no point in using the server for these
> tasks, it's a pathetic mess.
>
> i disabled autotuning, because it's ridiculous and hampers networking.
> i disabled compression for transfers, because that's an even worse idea.
> over ethernet, i can send/receive at 30% with my current settings.
> using wireless, my transfers are limited to 1.5MB/s, but rarely even 1.
> it's faster to use bittorrent over my lan with vista! that is the only
> way i see transfers of at least 2MB/s. these hurdles are the main
> things holding me back from upgrading my wireless network to n; i'm sure
> i won't get anywhere near the bandwidth that n supports (look at the
> abysmal g speeds)
>
>
> --
> acfreema
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>
 
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acfreema

#5
rambling, crying and irrelevant data? sure... explaining the ways that
i use my network to clarify that i can see evidence of slow transfers
(even when not watching my network activity) is obviously useless.

what hardware do you want to know? the wireless chip is either an
atheros 5007eg or a 5006eg (linux and windows tell me two different
things) and the router (set to ap function with 128bit wep) is a linksys
wrt54g. there are one floor and 10-15ft between the router and my pc.

this is my first experience using my own wireless, so, no upgrades were
done. i have two roommates that also use the wireless network, but
neither of them are active much of the time that i am trying large
transfers.

when using xp, i noticed transfers were consistently swift;
transferring an encoded film over the network would typically take 6-8
min, instead of 10-20 (little to no other hd activity). the fact that
vista displays the transfer rate and i can see bittorrent protocol
nearly doubling it is what really irks me.

by this time, it has become pretty clear to me that there is some
user-crippling "feature" in vista that throttles data transfer over
wireless networks. because i am no networking expert, i cannot specify
exactly what i think is causing the problem; however, i know that it is
something vista is doing, otherwise, bittorrent would be just as slow


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Bob F.

#6
Let's see. Looking at my parsing notes,
One floor and the distance you are talking about shouldn't be a problem
unless we are talking about steel studs, or other metal in the walls. The
construction of commercially built dormitory walls could take us in
different directions. Can you get your PC closer to the router the Wireless
Access Point (WAP) as a test?

Unfortunately The speed differences you stated seems to be about par for the
differences between XP and Vista. But you might be able to get some
improvements with SP1 when it comes out.

Bittorrent is known to be a problem but still used in many applications.

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"acfreema" <acfreema.36c0oj@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
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>
> rambling, crying and irrelevant data? sure... explaining the ways that
> i use my network to clarify that i can see evidence of slow transfers
> (even when not watching my network activity) is obviously useless.
No useful info here.

>
> what hardware do you want to know? the wireless chip is either an
> atheros 5007eg or a 5006eg (linux and windows tell me two different
> things)
Not useful

and the router (set to ap function with 128bit wep) is a linksys

> wrt54g. there are one floor and 10-15ft between the router and my pc.
Ah...here's something. But need more detail.

>
> this is my first experience using my own wireless, so, no upgrades were
> done.
Just need to know...no upgrade.

i have two roommates that also use the wireless network, but

> neither of them are active much of the time that i am trying large
> transfers.
>
Just need to know...few users, lightly loaded.


> when using xp, i noticed transfers were consistently swift;
> transferring an encoded film over the network would typically take 6-8
> min, instead of 10-20 (little to no other hd activity).
Good info.

the fact that

> vista displays the transfer rate and i can see bittorrent protocol
> nearly doubling it is what really irks me.
>
> by this time, it has become pretty clear to me that there is some
> user-crippling "feature" in vista that throttles data transfer over
> wireless networks. because i am no networking expert, i cannot specify
> exactly what i think is causing the problem; however, i know that it is
> something vista is doing, otherwise, bittorrent would be just as slow
>
No useful info here except you are using bittorrent.

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> acfreema
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>
 
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acfreema

#7
this condescending attitude of yours is really making it difficult for
me to believe that you even know as much as i do... which you apparently
don't. everything that you've told me has been stuff that i already
know, with a heavy dose of elitism.

i came here asking about what vista is doing to curb my network speeds,
and all you can offer is uncertain ideas from your high-horse. grow up
and learn to say "i don't know"


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#8
Please learn how to quote when you reply....

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"acfreema" <acfreema.36dpsj@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
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>
> this condescending attitude of yours is really making it difficult for
> me to believe that you even know as much as i do... which you apparently
> don't. everything that you've told me has been stuff that i already
> know, with a heavy dose of elitism.
>
> i came here asking about what vista is doing to curb my network speeds,
> and all you can offer is uncertain ideas from your high-horse. grow up
> and learn to say "i don't know"
>
>
> --
> acfreema
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>
 
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bill.fenton

#9
I believe it is nothing to do with the wireless connection I have a
similar problem, which is the same whither wired to the hub or over
wirless link or even between drives. Most advisors are assuring me that
SP1 will cure. If it does not. it is back to XP for me. I've had about 6
months of this vista crap. If there any benefits on vista they will only
be apparent on high spec machines in the future at present I feel just
conned by Microsoft.

Does any one know the official release date of SP1?


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acfreema

#10
Dave;734192 Wrote:

> Please learn how to quote when you reply....
please, clarify why i would want to pollute my post with the -entire-
text of the previous post? while we're on the topic of anal retentive
issues; perhaps, you should learn to properly punctuate?


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#11
I have the same problem with vista 32bit SP1 and 64bit SP1 over wireless and a wired cat5 routers, it makes no difference. Kind of funny when my internet connection (10mbit 1,300kbps) is faster than my local network (8mbit 1,000kbps) when transfering files. I even went as far as to install xp on 2 pc's and speeds were like they should be. There is something worng with vista's networking. I have also tried every work around there was, Still no increase in speed. Guess we have to live with it. Only way I could resolve this problem is to make both my pc's dual boot with vista and XP, Just using xp to transfer files over the network. Thanks microsuck for the great improvements in vista!!
 
#12
Vista SP1 may help this problem

Duby72 wrote:

> I have the same problem with vista 32bit SP1 and 64bit SP1 over wireless
> and a wired cat5 routers, it makes no difference. Kind of funny when my
> internet connection (10mbit 1,300kbps) is faster than my local network
> (8mbit 1,000kbps) when transfering files. I even went as far as to
> install xp on 2 pc's and speeds were like they should be. There is
> something worng with vista's networking. I have also tried every work
> around there was, Still no increase in speed. Guess we have to live
> with it. Only way I could resolve this problem is to make both my pc's
> dual boot with vista and XP, Just using xp to transfer files over the
> network. Thanks microsuck for the great improvements in vista!!
>
>
 
#13
bjr wrote:
Vista SP1 may help this>
>
[/quote]

Did you not see that i do in fact have SP1?? :sarc:

Having to boot into XP for network file transfers is not a problem for me, but im sure it would be a pain in the butt for the normal pc user.:D
 
#14
The following link may explain some of the real and/or perceived file
transfer rates you are experiencing.

http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2008/02/04/2826167.aspx


"Duby72" <Duby72.37wxbz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> bjr wrote:>

>> Vista SP1 may help this>
>
> Did you not see that i do in fact have SP1?? :sarc:
>
> Having to boot into XP for network file transfers is not a problem for
> me, but im sure it would be a pain in the butt for the normal pc user.:D
>
>
> --
> Duby72