Access is Denied!!!


  1.    03 Nov 2007 #1
    bassjace Guest

    Access is Denied!!!


    HI,
    I have Vista Ultimate and am looking around the software and am getting
    plenty of Access is Denied error messages when I try and click on folders in
    the C: directory that you could browse in XP.
    eg I have enabled show hidden files and folders, and known extension types
    and unhid protected operating files. Under C: Users -my user- I wanted to
    look at Application data and local settings but cannot, Access Denied Data
    not accessible. Even My Documents which has the little shortcut arrow is the
    same.
    What gives? I am the Admin on the machine, I have enabled the UAC and tried
    it without, still the same.
    I want/like to be able to look at my files and folders, why am I being told
    NO????
    Anybody any ideas?
    cheers


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  2.    03 Nov 2007 #2
    Malke Guest

    Re: Access is Denied!!!


    bassjace wrote:

    > HI,
    > I have Vista Ultimate and am looking around the software and am getting
    > plenty of Access is Denied error messages when I try and click on folders in
    > the C: directory that you could browse in XP.
    > eg I have enabled show hidden files and folders, and known extension types
    > and unhid protected operating files. Under C: Users -my user- I wanted to
    > look at Application data and local settings but cannot, Access Denied Data
    > not accessible. Even My Documents which has the little shortcut arrow is the
    > same.
    > What gives? I am the Admin on the machine, I have enabled the UAC and tried
    > it without, still the same.
    > I want/like to be able to look at my files and folders, why am I being told
    > NO????
    It sounds like you are trying to look at junctions instead of real
    directories. There is no "My Documents" in Vista, just a junction to the
    Documents directory. There are also a lot more protected directories in
    Vista such as Program Files, etc. Do some reading at the links below to
    familiarize yourself with the changes in Vista.

    From MVP Jimmy Brush - "Many folders used by earlier versions of
    Windows have been moved to a new location or given a new name in Windows
    Vista. However, the old folders can still be seen if you have enabled
    Show Hidden Files. Notice they are displayed with a transparent icon
    and a shortcut symbol.

    "Although these look like folders, they are actually what is known as a
    junction. Junctions behave like shortcuts, but look just like regular
    folders. Their purpose is to silently redirect programs that access them
    to their Windows Vista equivalent.

    "Since junctions aren't really folders, it is not possible to access
    them, and any attempt to do so will give you an "Access Denied" error."

    Changes to the built-in administrator account in Vista
    http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=942956

    http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
    http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Security/junctions.aspx
    http://www.realtime-vista.com/genera...uments_and.htm


    Malke
    --
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  3.    03 Nov 2007 #3
    Paul Adare Guest

    Re: Access is Denied!!!


    On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:10:16 -0700, Malke wrote:

    > "Since junctions aren't really folders, it is not possible to access
    > them, and any attempt to do so will give you an "Access Denied" error."
    Which is technically inaccurate. The reason you get an Access Denied on
    these junctions has nothing to do with the fact that they are junctions.
    These junctions have a specific Access Denied access control entry (ACE)for
    the Everyone group on their discretionary access control list (DACL). It is
    definitely possible, though not recommended, to access those junctions by
    modifying the DACL.
    --
    Paul Adare
    MVP - Virtual Machines
    http://www.identit.ca
    The determined programmer can write a FORTRAN program in any language.
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  4.    03 Nov 2007 #4
    bassjace Guest

    Re: Access is Denied!!!


    Thanks you for your replies. It has helped me figure out this issue, one of
    many on Vista.
    I don't know about everybody else but I can certainly say that this move
    over to Vista has not been a very smooth or happy one.

    My 2 bobs worth!!

    "Paul Adare" wrote:

    > On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:10:16 -0700, Malke wrote:
    >

    > > "Since junctions aren't really folders, it is not possible to access
    > > them, and any attempt to do so will give you an "Access Denied" error."
    >
    > Which is technically inaccurate. The reason you get an Access Denied on
    > these junctions has nothing to do with the fact that they are junctions.
    > These junctions have a specific Access Denied access control entry (ACE)for
    > the Everyone group on their discretionary access control list (DACL). It is
    > definitely possible, though not recommended, to access those junctions by
    > modifying the DACL.
    > --
    > Paul Adare
    > MVP - Virtual Machines
    > http://www.identit.ca
    > The determined programmer can write a FORTRAN program in any language.
    >
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  5.    04 Nov 2007 #5
    uvbogden Guest

    Re: Access is Denied!!!


    An alternative is to take Ownership and grant yourself Full Control of the
    file, folder, or drive you want to modify. See the tutorial link:

    Take Ownership of file

    If it still won't cooperate, click on Start, in the Start Search box type in
    Windows Explorer. Right-click on Windows Explorer and select Run As
    Administrator. Navigate to the file, folder, or drive you want to modify and
    do so. You should then have "elevated privileges" to do whatever you wish to
    files in Windows Explorer. There is also a program called Unlocker that you
    can use to gain access to modify files and folders (see link below).

    http://********.free.fr/unlocker/


    "bassjace" wrote:

    > Thanks you for your replies. It has helped me figure out this issue, one of
    > many on Vista.
    > I don't know about everybody else but I can certainly say that this move
    > over to Vista has not been a very smooth or happy one.
    >
    > My 2 bobs worth!!
    >
    > "Paul Adare" wrote:
    >

    > > On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:10:16 -0700, Malke wrote:
    > >

    > > > "Since junctions aren't really folders, it is not possible to access
    > > > them, and any attempt to do so will give you an "Access Denied" error."
    > >
    > > Which is technically inaccurate. The reason you get an Access Denied on
    > > these junctions has nothing to do with the fact that they are junctions.
    > > These junctions have a specific Access Denied access control entry (ACE)for
    > > the Everyone group on their discretionary access control list (DACL). It is
    > > definitely possible, though not recommended, to access those junctions by
    > > modifying the DACL.
    > > --
    > > Paul Adare
    > > MVP - Virtual Machines
    > > http://www.identit.ca
    > > The determined programmer can write a FORTRAN program in any language.
    > >
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  6.    14 Dec 2007 #6
    Asta Guest

    Re: Access is Denied!!!


    This has been VERY helpful, thank you. We've been having exactly the same
    problems after just upgrading from XP Home to Vista Ultimate and tons of
    Access Denied errors which are explained here and hopefully will help us
    resolve our same issues.

    It now makes us wonder if we won't also then get the same Access Denied
    errors when we attempt to try Printer Sharing with a Lexmark X83 (unsupported
    in Vista since Lexmark hasn't / won't release driver updates). We
    uninstalled/moved the X83 printer to the other XP system where it works, and
    curious if diverting prints fromt the Vista system to the XP Lexmark printer
    system will be OK. Can't find a clue in many queries.

    Again, thanks for helping us find the DOCUMENTS/MY DOCUMENTS WORKAROUNDS
    If the My Documents, My Music, My Pictures, and My Videos links in the Start
    menu do not point to the Documents, Music, Pictures, and Videos folders, you
    must manually redirect these links to the correct folders. To redirect these
    links, follow these steps: 1.Click Start, right-click the link, and then
    click Properties.
    2.On the Location tab, replace the wrong target location with the correct
    target location. For example, to redirect the My Music folder to the Music
    folder in Windows Vista, enter %systemdrive%\Users\user_name\Music.
    3.Click Apply.

    "Malke" wrote:

    > bassjace wrote:

    > > HI,
    > > I have Vista Ultimate and am looking around the software and am getting
    > > plenty of Access is Denied error messages when I try and click on folders in
    > > the C: directory that you could browse in XP.
    > > eg I have enabled show hidden files and folders, and known extension types
    > > and unhid protected operating files. Under C: Users -my user- I wanted to
    > > look at Application data and local settings but cannot, Access Denied Data
    > > not accessible. Even My Documents which has the little shortcut arrow is the
    > > same.
    > > What gives? I am the Admin on the machine, I have enabled the UAC and tried
    > > it without, still the same.
    > > I want/like to be able to look at my files and folders, why am I being told
    > > NO????
    >
    > It sounds like you are trying to look at junctions instead of real
    > directories. There is no "My Documents" in Vista, just a junction to the
    > Documents directory. There are also a lot more protected directories in
    > Vista such as Program Files, etc. Do some reading at the links below to
    > familiarize yourself with the changes in Vista.
    >
    > From MVP Jimmy Brush - "Many folders used by earlier versions of
    > Windows have been moved to a new location or given a new name in Windows
    > Vista. However, the old folders can still be seen if you have enabled
    > Show Hidden Files. Notice they are displayed with a transparent icon
    > and a shortcut symbol.
    >
    > "Although these look like folders, they are actually what is known as a
    > junction. Junctions behave like shortcuts, but look just like regular
    > folders. Their purpose is to silently redirect programs that access them
    > to their Windows Vista equivalent.
    >
    > "Since junctions aren't really folders, it is not possible to access
    > them, and any attempt to do so will give you an "Access Denied" error."
    >
    > Changes to the built-in administrator account in Vista
    > http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=942956
    >
    > http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
    > http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Security/junctions.aspx
    > http://www.realtime-vista.com/genera...uments_and.htm
    >
    >
    > Malke
    > --
    > Elephant Boy Computers
    > www.elephantboycomputers.com
    > "Don't Panic!"
    > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
    >
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