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chinga69

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for the last week the defender updates i install keep reappearing after i install them until a new one is listed then that one keeps reappearing in the list that i have to install it again the last 3 defender updates i have installed each one about 6 times

anyone got any ideas how to fix this problem my othe pc is fine
seems like the file or log that update uses must be corrupt in some way
 

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for the last week the defender updates i install keep reappearing after i install them until a new one is listed then that one keeps reappearing in the list that i have to install it again the last 3 defender updates i have installed each one about 6 times

anyone got any ideas how to fix this problem my othe pc is fine
seems like the file or log that update uses must be corrupt in some way

Sup Dude,

You can start a free Windows Update Support Ticket...

https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

or check the windows update support site

Microsoft Update Solution Center

Have you used bitlocker or setup a partition for bitlocker?

This might also help cleaning old downloaded updates...
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/158356-extended-disk-cleanup.html?ltr=E

Steven
 

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yes i have encrypted all drives but that was a while ago

only thing i did is try adware 2008 maybe thats screwed up something

cheers will try the links
 

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that prog wont run under vista 64

i am unencrypting all drives to see how it goes

cheers brad

hmm...when I was looking for similar problems someone else suggested Bitlocker had caused the problems with Windows Update so since you said you where using it It might still be the cause...

Windows Update failed on KB935509 - Page 2 - Microsoft Windows Vista Community Forums - Vistaheads

Use this program to flush the softwaredistrubution in WindowsUpdate

Dial-a-fix - TechWiki

Install the update and restart. It should then be successfull.

Steven
 

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for the last week the defender updates i install keep reappearing after i install them until a new one is listed then that one keeps reappearing in the list that i have to install it again the last 3 defender updates i have installed each one about 6 times

anyone got any ideas how to fix this problem my othe pc is fine
seems like the file or log that update uses must be corrupt in some way
Hello,
Until you find a permanent fix, why not right click on the "repeating" update, then "hide" it.
 

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Hello,
Until you find a permanent fix, why not right click on the "repeating" update, then "hide" it.


yes thought of that then decided to keep installing once a day to see if it fixed itself

cheers brad
 

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ok so it looks like its a windows defender problem as i cant get it to start just get error message 0x800106ba

tried quite a few of the supposed fixes on the net but still no go
 

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    xp pro v 1xpci digital tv tuners
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    win7 64
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thanks seen that one cant uninstall defender from vista

also emailed support but no reply

when i go to services and try to start windefend i get error2:the system cannot find the file specified

anyone know the file its looking for when started from services

i also whent throughthe reg all the files listed all but 2 worked

this one has to have a v added to the name for it to work wuwebv.dll

this one i cant find on my system initpki.dll

so i think most of the fixes seem to be for xp
 

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try an SFC /SCANNOW from command prompt to see if any of your system files are corrupt - you'll need your Vista DVD....
 

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try an SFC /SCANNOW from command prompt to see if any of your system files are corrupt - you'll need your Vista DVD....

no problems found
 

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weird and weirder. Did you perform step 3 from that link that dmex gave? Obviously forget about uninstalling Defender as it is tied into a knot with Vista....
 

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yes have done that

looks like ill have to reinstall from scratch
 

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that trys to uninstall defender but cant

thanks to all who helped with these suggestions much appreciated
 

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    win8 64
Actually, that tried to uninstall the Signature files.msi not Defender itself.
 

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    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
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    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
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    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
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    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
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    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
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    AMD A6-5350M APU
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    8 GB
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    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
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    Lenovo 15" Matte
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    1680 * 1050
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    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
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    Lenovo
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    Lenovo
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    Lenovo
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    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
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    Lenovo
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    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
ok

i am check the registry and see if i can find where adware 2008 removed any reg entry's for defender when i run msconfig defenders not in the startup options

yes yes yes

its going and updates no longer repeating
i exported all the windows defender keys i could find in the registry from another 64bit system and imported them into this one and defender now starts again

so i would say when i run adware 2008 i have removed reg keys for defender and didnt realize i did

thanks again to all that helped
very happy i dont have to start from scratch again


ps will encrypt my drives again now

apologies to addware 2008 it wasnt the cause of my problems it was mvregclean that removed the reg entries that stopped defender running
 
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    nvidia 9500 gt
    Sound Card
    on board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    T231H / X243H ACER
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1050
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 500 samsung 1terabyte wd 750
    PSU
    550 watt
    Case
    cooler master
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    microsoft
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    logitech
    Internet Speed
    8000 dl 356 ul
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    booting xp32 2x dual pci-e digital tv tuners
    xp pro v 1xpci digital tv tuners
    vista ultimate 64 1x pci sat tuner
    win7 64
    win8 64
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