windows update just seems to hang while checking.


  1.    21 Mar 2017 #541
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    No
    I have a replacement disc from MS, as the original is gone, and the new disc has SP2 already in it.
    Yes they all installed successfully.

    I've tried that suggestion ages ago, and no difference.

    I do have Office 2010 installed, but I have the exact same issue with another Desktop, which does not have Office installed.

    Right now, I am trying WSUS Offline Update on the laptop.
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  2.    22 Mar 2017 #542
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    Quote Originally Posted by it0uchpods View Post
    I do have Office 2010 installed, but I have the exact same issue with another Desktop, which does not have Office installed. Right now, I am trying WSUS Offline Update on the laptop.
    Hi it0uchpods:

    Post back and let us know how well Torsten Wittrock's WSUS Offline Update tool works. Most Vista SP2 users I know who use this tool think it's great, but it can be a bit confusing for new users until they've figured out how to trigger the installation process.

    I'm still not clear about what you did after the SP2 service pack was installed. The Vista SP2 service pack was released 25-May-2009 and comes bundled with IE7, not IE9. Your list of .msu installers in post # 539 includes KB4012204 (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 9 for Windows Vista: March 14, 2017) so I'm not sure how this update installed successfully unless you had already upgraded your browser to IE 9 before trying to patch your Vista SP2 OS. Did you run a script to install these .msu installers, and if so did you confirm at Control Panel | Programs | Programs and Features | View Installed Updates that all these updates installed successfully before running Windows Update? The WUSA might not display an error message even if an update fails to install correctly, depending on the switches (e.g. /quiet /norestart, etc.) used when running these scripts from an elevated command prompt.

    A fresh re-install of Vista SP2 now requires about 200 individual patches to bring it up-to-date. I always recommend that users patch their Vista SP2 OS after a clean re-install before installing any other software. If you installed other Microsoft products like MS Office 2010, IE9, MSE, etc. before patching your OS it would be very difficult for the latest Windows Update Agent v7.6.7600.256 for Vista SP2 (released June 2012) to find all available updates in one update session, even with speed up patches for Vista SP2, IE9 and Office 2010 pre-installed.
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  3.    22 Mar 2017 #543
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    Here are my steps on the Desktop, let's ignore the laptop for now.
    Installed Vista SP2 on clean HDD.
    Installed all previous and current speed patches
    Installed IE9
    Installed IE9 patch

    Hope that clears it up.

    I have used Offline WSUS now. It installed 172 updates. I will test if Win Update works when I am home.

    Kind Regards,
    Josh
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  4.    22 Mar 2017 #544
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    OK
    The official very good working fix is to use Offline WSUS:
    WSUS Offline Update - Update Microsoft Windows and Office without an Internet connection
    Use version 10.9.2: http://download.wsusoffline.net/wsusoffline1092.zip

    Then afterwards, It found 50 Updates in 5 mins IE9, Office 2010 installed, so all working. If you need help with Offline WSUS, I've found the perfect way to do it for Vista, and fix this exact issue, and I'll make a guide when I have some time.
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  5.    25 Mar 2017 #545
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    Okay. Mission accomplished. But I've seen some things that I don't quite understand.

    I pre-installed KB4012497. Rebooted, then ran a check. "Checking for updates..." lasted approximately fourty-nine minutes before coming back with eleven updates. Ignoring the MSRT, this left me with almost 30 MB (or somewhere abouts...) of updates...

    KB4012204
    KB4011981
    KB3216916
    KB3217587
    KB4012583
    KB4012598
    KB4012584
    KB3218362
    KB3205715
    KB3214051

    ...Now, this makes me nervous. Because I'm on dial-up, sessions with this many files tend to time out, lose connectionsor whatever. This shouldn't be a problem, but the way Windows Update works, if it loses it's connection, it will simply run ahead with what it's got and install whatever complete updates it has.

    So think about this. I'm downloading eleven files. If I get only four or those files, and it dies on the fifth? Then it will install the first four. It will most likely ask for a reboot. So I'd reboot, come back, and attempt to get those remaining updates again......

    ...Except it took me almost an hour to get that first batch. Which means I'd now have to rerun that hour of waiting to reclaim the remaining updates.

    What I'm saying is...I decided to play this thing like a chess game. I planned it out as best I could to avoid this "rerun" problem, and I ended up doing it all in three passes over the course of three days.

    The two biggest updates in this batch were the IE9 update at 14.7 MB, and KB4011981, which was about 8.3 (I think?). So I selected the smallest nine, which all totalled about six-and-a-half MB and just went for it. Happily, all came through and installed without a hitch.

    The next day, I came back and returned to Windows Update. Once again, "Checking for updates..." lasted approximately fourty-nine minutes before coming back with three updates.

    Wait, three? Yes. MSRT was on the list again. I don't know whether it unhid itself, or maybe the one I hid yesterday was for March, while I think this one might've been for February? Maybe? I'm not sure. Either way, I've been reading the posts here and I can see that this is an old, well-known problem already. So...

    But the thing that I find curious about the second pass is how long it took. I find it strange that KB4012583 was installed in the first pass, yet the second pass was no faster than the first. At least, not for me anyways.

    Right. So I re-hid the MSRT, then got to work on KB4011981. Once again, all came through with no problems.

    Finally, the next day, the third pass, I figured would be interesting. For a long time now, the IE9 updates have consistently died on me during downloading. It'd be easy to blame my dial-up, but I've seen other people on other forums complaining of the same problem. I'd like to think most of those people are running way faster connections than mine, so I don't think I'm entirely at fault here.

    On the third check, "Checking for updates..." lasted almost fourty-eight minutes. The IE9 update was the only "Important" link that came back. I got the install done, but the process was......weird.

    My modem downloaded to about 5%, then suddenly, progress jumped to 11%, the hard drive started clicking, and there was zero modem activity. What's weird is, the percentage kept rising, even though it was all hard drive and no modem. This went on for some minutes...I'd say maybe somewhere around twenty?...until it got to 45%. At that point, the hard drive stopped it's clicking and the modem started downloading again.

    I don't get this. In my mind, the only thing that would account for this behavior would be if it already had a portion of the file downloaded from some point before. Or maybe it's scanning my installed copy of IE9 to determine what's needed? Maybe? I don't know. Microsoft kind of lost me on all this stuff a long time ago.

    Anyways, the download rumbled along until 63%. Just as I had predicted, the connection died and I got a red shield icon with a "Try Again" button. At the bottom of the window, it says "Code 80072EE2 Windows Update encountered an unknown error.". I can only be thankful that my strategy payed off and I click the button to continue on.

    Based on my tray icons, I could see there was lots of downloading going on during the second try. Yet progress seemed to be crawling. I brought up my "connection status" box and watched the "Bytes Received". Slowly, the progress climbed, but the status window showed it was downloading way more than the 14.7 MB this update's supposed to be. It ended up being a little more than twenty-one by the time it was finished. I'm hardly an expert on these things, but I'm going to just assume that all this was done through an encrypted connection. I don't know the nuts-and-bolts reasons for why, but my experience is, bytewise, encrypted transfers tend to take more traffic than unencrypted ones. That makes sense to me, but I don't know where in the process all that stuff occurs, so...

    Progress got to about 88%, then suddenly jumped to 90%, then 95%, then the hard drive started clicking again and the install occurred. Post-reboot, all seems well, and we're done for the month.

    So, in three sessions, nothing that was less than fourty-eight minutes, even though I started with one pre-installed "speed-up" KB, and picked up another during the first pass. Maybe I should've pre-installed KB4012204? I'm thinking if this happens again next month, if there's one last IE9 patch, I'll start with it first to see what happens in any following passes.

    Anyways, I apologize for my rambling. This post would be a lot shorter if not for the weirdness in the third pass. I'm posting this information with the hope that if there's someone out there that's baffled by all this, maybe something here can help them. I don't know.

    Again, many thanks to this forum for their great work and due diligence in this fiasco. I've a suspicion people will be coming back to this thread and others like it for some years to come before all's said and done.

    See you all next month.
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  6.    25 Mar 2017 #546
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    Hi TeknomanSlade,

    April's next (and final) release of the Cumulative Security Update for IE9 is certain to become a new trigger of the issue. Install it right away along with April's release of the Kernel-Mode Driver update (successor of KB4012497).

    The speeding-up effect lies in removing an issue from your menu of updates to be searched for. It's more than one with IE9 or MS Office installed.

    You have helped the process a lot by installing one of the triggers (KB4012497) in advance, but could have returned to January's search times by preinstalling KB4012204, too.

    KB4012583 didn't have an influence because when KB3191203 is installed, it doesn't pose an additional problem.

    Also see: windows update just seems to hang while checking.

    Regards, VZ
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  7.    25 Mar 2017 #547
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    Quote Originally Posted by TeknomanSlade View Post
    ...Because I'm on dial-up, sessions with this many files tend to time out, lose connectionsor whatever. This shouldn't be a problem, but the way Windows Update works, if it loses it's connection, it will simply run ahead with what it's got and install whatever complete updates it has.
    Hi TeknomanSlade:

    I don't know if this would help, but I posted instructions a few years ago in aggrevated1's thread Norton AntiVirus 2011 Won't Complete Updates in the Norton forum about adjusting dial-up modem settings (e.g., Maximum Port Speed, Receive and Transmit buffer sizes, "Disconnect a call if idle for more than...") to reduce disconnects. The default setting for "Disconnect a call if idle for more than..." for many dial-up modems is 30 min, and you can increase this setting (or disable it altogether) to help reduce the number of disconnects by your modem when you're downloading large files. Changing this setting might not help, however, if your ISP automatically disconnects dial-up connections from their own back end server after a set period of inactivity.

    Just remember, though - if you don't have unlimited Internet (i.e., your ISP charges an hourly fee for connection times above your monthly limit) you don't want the "Disconnect a call if idle for more than..." on your modem set too high or disabled all the time.
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  8.    26 Mar 2017 #548
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    Hi Volume Z and Imacri.

    Volume, I don't think I've had Automatic Search for updates turned on for a very long time. As per the usual best practices around here. So I'm not entirely sure the post you linked me to applies to me. Thanks anyways though.

    Imacri, thank you for the advice. I think I may have mispoke in my post though. The point I'm trying to make isn't so much that my dial-up is dying. It's that something's happening on Microsoft's side that's causing it to die. When I clicked "Try again", I was still online, using the same connection.

    I've checked all the boxes you mentioned in your thread. Everything appears maxed out already in terms of speed, and I have unchecked the "Disconnect if idle..." box. To be honest, I've had plenty of downloads and connections that have lasted happily for hours. So maybe I'm biased, but most lost connections, I tend to blame the other side for it.

    But seriously though, I have seen other people complain of losing connections on the IE9 updates way more than the other KBs. Perhaps they're using a different server for them?

    Anyways, thanks guys.
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  9.    26 Mar 2017 #549
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    I'm trying to tell you preinstalling the Cumulative Security Update for IE9 is as important as preinstalling KB4012497.
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  10.    27 Mar 2017 #550
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    Re: windows update just seems to hang while checking.


    So you agree, then, that if there's one more IE9 patch next month, I should try that before anything else?
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