May's Malicious Software Removal Tool returns to haunt me June 13


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    Re: May's Malicious Software Removal Tool returns to haunt me June 13


    Quote Originally Posted by Vistaar View Post
    Setting Windows Update to "never check for updates" except on Patch Tuesday following installation of the kernel-mode driver update is an effective preventative.
    Probably not a good idea because I've seen MSE definition updates during the month. I've also noticed that unlike most other AVs MSE doesn't automatically download definition updates or even tell you that there is one. The only notification that you get is through Windows update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by townsbg View Post
    Probably not a good idea because I've seen MSE definition updates during the month. I've also noticed that unlike most other AVs MSE doesn't automatically download definition updates or even tell you that there is one. The only notification that you get is through Windows update.
    I appreciate your concern, but I'm afraid you are quite mistaken: MSE automatically updates definitions daily, and there is no user setting that will prevent that, including setting Windows Update to "never check for updates" - which also doesn't prevent manual definition updates. I am quite certain this is true of MSE 4.9, but I'm obviously not in a position to test the older version that you are still using.

    If you have any thoughts on why Windows Update would repeatedly offer the MSRT or any other update that was successfully installed, don't hesitate to post them here.
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    I remember reading when MSE is installed it should not be necessary to run the Malicious Software Tool. I occasionally run the MSTR. It sometimes takes a very long time. Wouldn't a MSE scan be a better option to running MSTR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by albertz View Post
    I remember reading when MSE is installed it should not be necessary to run the Malicious Software Tool...
    Where did you read that?

    This thread is not about MSE, not everyone seeing MSRT repeatedly offered for download is using MSE, and I do not have a problem with definition updates. Forum members should refrain from long-winded off-topic posts!

    Edit: Thank you albertz for editing out a lengthy off-topic passage.
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    Re: May's Malicious Software Removal Tool returns to haunt me June 13


    Quote Originally Posted by Vistaar View Post
    Where did you read that?

    This thread is not about MSE, not everyone seeing MSRT repeatedly offered for download is using MSE, and I do not have a problem with definition updates. Forum members should refrain from long-winded off-topic posts!
    While performing a Vista installation and Windows Upgrades IIRC a popup or screen message appeared. Windows message saying something concerning MSRT and MSE. I unable to emember exactly only that the message addressed something to the effect that if MSE is installed then it wouldn't be necessary to run MSRT.

    Sorry for addressing other things about MSE and making the previous post too long. I have deleted that part of the message.
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    Re: May's Malicious Software Removal Tool returns to haunt me June 13


    Vistaar,

    Did you ever come across this:
    How not to install KB890830 Windows update as it create problems? - Microsoft Community

    For whatever reason, I never turned off automatic updates. After patch Tuesday updates, I continued to receive multiple offers for the MSRT since July. I would hide the update, and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.

    Today, I tried creating the MRT key and adding the DWord value as outlined in the link above. So far, the offers for the MSRT have stopped and the hidden MSRT updates (July-through-October) have been removed.

    Just wondering if anyone has tried this approach? Personally I can do without the MSRT being offered each month. Hope it works!
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    No, I never came across that. If you hide the update, my experience was that it would then offer you an older MSRT that wasn't hidden. I say "was" because I am keeping Windows Update turned off all the time now. As I mentioned in post #365 of windows update just seems to hang while checking., Windows Update last night informed me that one update was "Not Needed," and apparently this was the October MSRT, which was offered for download after pre-installing the two updates that didn't work for you but now does not appear in my update history. That could be related to the fact that I'm using MSE (and haven't yet upgraded to the latest version of MSE), as albertz suggested above.

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    Last edited by Vistaar; 12 Oct 2016 at 22:46. Reason: Had it right the first time after all.
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    Re: May's Malicious Software Removal Tool returns to haunt me June 13


    Quote Originally Posted by Vistaar View Post
    If you hide the update, my experience was that it would then offer you an older MSRT that wasn't hidden.
    Same here. Sometimes it'll re-appear later in the month but it definitely starts all over after Patch Tuesday updates. If this registry hack keeps the MSRT from downloading, I'll take it as a "fix."

    Update: just tried the MRT registry key addition on my wife's Win 7 business laptop before running Windows Update. The MSRT didn't download. Removed the key and DWORD value from the registry. Checked WU for updates, the MSRT downloaded.

    Hope it works this way with Vista next month! Adios MSRT...
    Last edited by Vista1972; 12 Oct 2016 at 20:28.
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