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  1.    15 Aug 2016 #1
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    SP1


    Just done a clean install of Vista, tried to load a saved to USB copy of standalone SP1.

    It worked the last time i used it, only difference this time is i'm trying to install SP1 right after the Vista install.

    Instead of waiting until everything gets stuck after downloading/installing a truckload of updates, I figured,
    load it now and save some trouble.

    I mean that's what SP1 is.... all the previous updates, up to that point, right?

    Or do i even have to bother, just load SP2 perhaps.(scrap that, frustration taking over)

    Not really sure how all this is supposed to work, just know that every time i've had to reinstall Vista, i've had to go through the massively tedious task of reloading all the updates. Then fart about trying to get SP's installed.

    Should i be able to, Clean install Vista, then load SP1 and SP2 from saved files? And save a lot af time.


    Or are the SP1/SP2 downloads a use once and throw away deal?
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  2.    15 Aug 2016 #2
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    Re: SP1


    Hello timmeh. If you google "windows vista sp1 prerequisites" I'm afraid you will find that prerequisites do exist, so my advice is to let Windows Update check for updates until SP1 is offered, then use the standalone installer because it would be shocking if SP1 installed properly via Windows Update. That's what I did when I reinstalled Vista from a factory image that did not include SP1 in March 2015. Windows Update shouldn't slow down terribly until SP2 is installed, and we now have a workaround for that described elsewhere.

    BTW if you used a factory image, you should uninstall antique versions of Java and Flash Player. If there was a free trial of Norton or another antivirus, use the appropriate removal tool. Since you are an MSE user, I would be very interested in knowing what is the first version of MSE offered by Windows Update after reinstalling Vista these days. I think MSE 4.9 requires SP1.
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  3.    16 Aug 2016 #3
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    Re: SP1


    Installing on another HDD. From disc, no sp version.
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  4.    16 Aug 2016 #4
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    Re: SP1


    Yes let Window update do it's thing then install the two service packs.
    Once they have been installed open cmd as administrator and type compcln.exe then click y when asked
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  5.    16 Aug 2016 #5
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    Re: SP1


    Does SP2 require all updates as well? And is it possible to keep a copy of the SP's for reuse? I don't have unlimited download capability, doing this sort of thing wipes me out.
    Have had to go through the whole process of clean install and get back up to date 4/5 times now, was hoping to find a slightly easier solution. Will try the SP files that i have, when the time is right, hopefully they will work and i won't have to download them again as well.
    Have been having trouble with updates off and on for a while now(consecutive errors thread), every time i think i've got it sorted, it seems to change tack somewhat. Although i have been messing about in settings a bit, because of the problems that have been occurring, trying to improve security and hopefully make the system a little harder to dig around in for someone on the outside. Little things happen from time to time that give cause for concern, so setting up another HDD and dual boot vista/10 on that and keep the old one for experimental purposes.
    Will let you know when MSE kicks in.
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  6.    16 Aug 2016 #6
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    Re: SP1


    Quote Originally Posted by timmeh View Post
    Does SP2 require all updates as well? And is it possible to keep a copy of the SP's for reuse? Have had to go through the whole process of clean install and get back up to date 4/5 times now, was hoping to find a slightly easier solution...Will let you know when MSE kicks in.
    Well SP2 definitely requires SP1. You could give it a try once SP1 has been installed. You should certainly be able to reuse your saved copy of the standalone. I would copy it from USB to PC, right-click and select Run as administrator. It might prove necessary to Unblock it first by right-clicking and selecting Properties > General. As for easier solutions, you could use a Vista ISO download that includes SP2. In the future you might want to make a backup image using Macrium or perhaps Acronis. The time to do that is after Vista has been updated and desired software has been installed but before problems arise. Has Windows Update offered any MSE version yet?
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  7.    16 Aug 2016 #7
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    Re: SP1


    It'll be a while, i check 8-10(max) updates at a time and let them through, less if it gets stuck for more than 25-30 min.
    As for backups and images, i've had it set where ever possible to automatically set restore points, can never find useful/useable ones when i need them.
    Never been able to use an image for restoration, best i've got was all extra software removed and put in an innaccessible folder, all settings back to default, lost internet access.
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  8.    17 Aug 2016 #8
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    Re: SP1


    I recommend Macrium Reflect for backup images if reinstalling on the same machine. Make a boot disc too. A guide is on my site

    Macrium_Reflect_Free_Guide_ilikefree.co

    If you need 32bit service packs I have both on my site

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  9.    17 Aug 2016 #9
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    Re: SP1


    Try copying the stand alone to your desktop or somewhere else to the hard drive since sometimes updates might refuse to install unless they are on the hard drive. Other than that there are no prereqs for sp1 and the only prereq for sp2 is sp1 when it comes to using the installer. Windows update might not offer the service packs until certain updates have been installed. You might also want to try and re-download the stand alone installers. Now what happened when you tried to run the installer?
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  10.    17 Aug 2016 #10
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    Re: SP1


    Quote Originally Posted by townsbg View Post
    ...there are no prereqs for sp1 and the only prereq for sp2 is sp1 when it comes to using the installer.
    Oops! My apologies, it looks like townsbg is right. I found this: "A stand-alone SP1 package contains all files, including the prerequisites that the previous section described, needed to install SP1 on any computer." So the only question is why the standalone installer didn't work the first time you tried it.
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