Solved New nvidia drivers [178.13] messed up my system

Dragor · Oct 3, 2008

Yesterday, my friend told me that nVidia have released new ForceWare for Vista [178.13], so I went ahead and downloaded it.

Before installing, I removed my old ForceWare from "Programs and Features" and rebooted; then installed the new drivers and after rebooting found that they were unstable.

After installing 178.13, I had problems with Aero; constant flashes and desktop freezing problems, so I disabled Aero. Thinking that I'll tackle the problem later, I went ahead to watch a movie and then the driver crashed and recovered [popup in taskbar: display driver nvlddmkm {or whatever, I don't remember now} stopped responding and recovered successfully]. This began to happen frequently while playing the movie, so I quit the media player and promptly uninstalled the new drivers as before and went back to the old 175.19 which were rock solid for me!

This afternoon, when I sat down to watch a VCD movie, I noticed that there were several graphical glitches and there was a left clip where there was a mirror effect shown in screenshot below in yellow rectangle:

Click here for image.

The glitches go away when I play it in anything other than WMP11 and this glitch is affecting play back of VCD streams ONLY. Although other players don't show glitches, the left clip mirror effect is shown throughout the system whenever I play VCD streams [both .DAT and .MPEG].

Steps I have taken: 1. Uninstall any and all CODEC packs
2. Uninstall nvidia ForceWare 175.19
3. Re-install nvidia Forceware 175.19
The problem still remains. I used to use Nasty File Remover [aka NFR] in XP to completely flush out old uninstalled drivers before installing new drivers. Is there any new utility which can do the same for vista?
The only solution I can see is to completely flush out nVidia's drivers from my system so that I can start anew.

Please help me! Any and all help is appreciated! Thank You!

P.S.: I have had this other problem with nVidia's Forceware 178.13 which I have posted here: http://www.vistax64.com/graphic-car...le-does-not-load-after-updating-178-13-a.html

roy69 · Oct 5, 2008

Compleatly remove the drivers, go into device manager and remove the device. Download the 169 version (which is known to be stable) or have the drivers disk that came with your card handy.
When you reset your machine it will tell you it has found new hardware and install the drivers for your card.

TusharA · Oct 5, 2008

Has anyone else experienced any problems with the new drivers? I've downloaded them but haven't installed them yet.

mansrm81 · Oct 5, 2008

Nope my system is good nothin messed up with the new drivers.

Bare Foot Kid · Oct 5, 2008

Hello all.

I removed 175.19 with device manager and installed 178.13 and I'm having no problems at all!

Later :shock:

Ted

Fumz · Oct 5, 2008

Uninstalled the old physx drivers, then the video drivers... installed the new ones, could not be happier.

DaCH · Oct 5, 2008

I uninstalled my old driver and then installed the new 178.13 without a problem. It's ok on my machine.

Dragor · Oct 6, 2008

I don't know how to describe what fixed this problem, cause I really don't know!

ALSO SEE: http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/185245-cant-open-resource-monitor.html

After my mess up with Vista, I started using XP which was on 163.75 and guess what! The same instability problems started to appear!

So, it was crystal clear that this was a hardware mess up. I shut down my PC, tried to do a little dust sucking and blowing with the vacuum cleaner, remover and cleaned my 6600, RAM and put all stuff back.

Then, I started XP and after about an hour of usage everything was pretty normal. So, I switched over to Vista to find that the problem was still there, only this time there was no BSOD or stuff like that which could make my system crawl. It was just "Display driver has stopped responding and recovered successfully" balloon messages.

Next, I uninstalled the affected driver and installed 175.19 but this time through the device manager method. Everything went fine and in working condition.
Incidently, I noticed that Windows Update had an optional GeForce 6600 driver update which I selected to install. It was approx. 55 MB download and after installing, voila!
I was on 178.13, the newest driver with all my color settings copied over and rock solid reliability!

Everything is fine now, just one grudge that Vista chose to drop my Experience index from 4.0 to 3.8 and that too in Gaming grpahics!

I guess, my card had either become loose or the dust might have played a part. It could even be a corrupt installation file! Whatever it was, this has certainly added to my experience!

Thanks for all the help!

Bare Foot Kid · Oct 6, 2008

Hello Dragor, good to see you found a solution!

Later :shock:

Ted

highwayman · Oct 8, 2008

I always tend to use the newest posted drivers on Guru3d...they have yet to cause any instability or corruption on my rig, and there's a newer 178.15 out now, try that.

chiefmasterjedi · Oct 8, 2008

I had tons of problems with 178.13's. The worst problem was with WMP11, everytime i tried to play a movie the whole system would lock up. To cut a long story short I changed drivers to 178.15 and everything is working fine again.

Raizen · Oct 9, 2008

problem with driver 178.13

Dragor · Oct 11, 2008

Raizen, you are in a pretty bad shape! Dude, I suggest starting a new thread and explaining your problem COMPLETELY with all details of when, how and what reason you think caused this.

As a side note, this is a Vista forum, but we'll gladly help if you can provide details since we can't come over to your place!

That said, have you tried basic troubleshooting? Here's a check list:

1. Try booting into safe mode by pressing F8 just before you see Windows XP bootscreen at start of your PC

2. Try uninstalling all display drivers while you are in safe mode; also check wether the same problem occurs in Safe Mode. If it does, it might be a hardware issue.

3. If it is a hardware issue, turn off your PC and check the cables running from your monitor / LCD display to the back of your CPU case. Try removing CAREFULLY and re-inserting them CAREFULLY. Depending on the type of monitor i.e. LCD Flat Panel type or TV type CRT monitor, you may not be able to remove all cables from the back of your monitor so don't force it to come out if it doesn't come out at first. Just let it be!

4. If you monitor cables are good and you still have a problem, there may most probably be a problem with your graphics card or on board display if you don't have a graphics card. Depending on how you bought your PC [either from a company like Dell or custom built from a shop] I suggest you contact them and let the support person have a look for a small fee. On the other hand, if you are feeling adventurous, you might try the following if you don't mind loosing your warranty! Also, the step below is applicable only if you have a graphics card.

5. IF YOU PLAN TO DO THIS STEP, BE WARNED THAT THIS MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY! I SUGGEST YOU STICK TO STEP 4 AND ONLY DO THIS STEP IF YOU ARE ALREADY OUT OF WARRANTY AND YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU HAVE A GRPAHICS CARD INSTALLED!!!

Alright here's what you do: First turn off your PC and remove the power plug from the wall socket. Then remove all cables attached to the back of your CPU case CAREFULLY. I suggest taking a picture if you don't remember which cable goes where. Now, carefully rest your case sideways [on its right side with the front side facing you] and with a screwdriver remove the screws that hold the cover in place at the back of the case. Put the screws in a safe place so they don't get lost and so that you can find them easily find them when you have to put it all back together. With the screws out, gently try to slide out the cover. You may have to lift it slightly in order for the locks to get out of the grooves on the case. Depending on your case, you may have cooling fans connected on the inside to your cover, so gently disconnect them so that you can separate the cover from the case. You should be able to see the motherboard, the processor fan and heatsink, the RAM sticks, any and all kinds of peripherals! Now carefully remove the screw holding your graphics card into place. Put the screw in a separate location from the case cover screws so that you don't mix them up! Once again make sure that you have removed the monitor / LCD flat panel display's cable at the back of your graphics card cause next you are going to remove it! Now, you graphics card rests in place by a notch which is on the slot itself in which the card is placed. The notch has to be moved in order to remove / insert the graphics card. To find the notch, if you can't see it, position youself at the frontside of the case and reach fo the side of the graphics card's slot towards your side. You should be able to feel it. Now depending on your situation, move the notch with one hand and with the other, gently remove the card from its slot. Dust the card gently and pack it in its original packing or some box of suitable size padded with newspaper to prevent damaging the card. Now, send it or take it to the place from where you purchased the card with the original receipt of your payment for the card!
Oh! and by the way, don't forget to place things back together! Here's how:
First, take the case cover and connect the fan's cables if any. Then place the case cover on the case seein to it that the locks enter the grooves on the case. Now slide and lock the cover by sliding the cover to the frontside of the case. Now take the case cover screws that were at the back of the case and put them back with the help of a screwdriver. Remember the screw which held the graphics card in place? KEEP IT SAFELY! cause you will need it when you receive your graphics card back! Now, make the case stand and connect all cables as before. I hope you took a picture as I suggested! But, now there's one difference as to where you will connect the monitor's cable. Try and look for a similar connector as is on the back of your graphics card.
It may look like this:

Or this:

But generally it'll be the first one. Now if you have an LCD monitor and you NEED a connector as shown in the second picture above, then check the packaging which came with your LCD monitor / PC. there has got to be an adapter which looks somehwat like this:

Finally, don't forget to connect the power cords to the back of computer, monitor and plug it in the wall outlet and/or the UPS [If you have one!]

I really hope this helps! This must be my biggest post yet!

highwayman · Oct 11, 2008

Raizen said:
problem with driver 178.13

Whoa that is what it looks like when people go too far when Overclocking a GPU to me, looks frazzled.

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