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Trust USB headset; windows installed driver automatically, can't get rid of it...
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    Trust USB headset; windows installed driver automatically, can't get rid of it...

    The main question is... Where the hell does Vista download drivers ?!

    Now if you want the details keep reading, but that's mostly what I want to know...

    This is it Trust - USB Headset HS-4100; now here's my problem...



    When I put the headset in the usb port vista automatically downloaded and installed the drivers for it. I found out later that any half-intelligent human being would configure vista to ASK before doing such a horrid thing; unfortunately I'm a troglodyte and didn't do so from the beginning...

    The problem with the driver vista found is that it recognizes my headset as a stereo system, when in fact it has that nice surround chip inside. The trust drivers would let me configure my mike and my headphones to my heart's desire too. Alas, I can't install the drivers unless I put the headset in the usb.

    So... I disabled the auto-download driver policy windows has, prompting it to ASK me before it does so; after I uninstall the driver from the device manager and try to install the TRUST drivers, the moment in which I plug the headset in the usb, vista starts installing it's ALREADY downloaded driver FASTER than the trust driver installer can install his, so mid-install it tells me "installation failed", since the vista driver got installed quicker.

    The way I see things with my limited common-sense, the problem is this, windows will ask me if I want to install a driver only if it's not found locally, since the driver it found earlier and installed is somewhere on my hard it won't ask for nuthin', it just installs... the prick. I have to find it and delete it manually. I tried to search for " C Media"(that's the driver vista installs) on my computer but I can't fin anything, SO...

    Where the hell does Vista download drivers ?

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    Re: Trust USB headset; windows installed driver automatically, can't get rid of it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zex View Post
    Where the hell does Vista download drivers ?
    Probably from the,

    C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository

    folder. From having a quick look at the manual I think I can understand why Vista is installing C-Media drivers though,



    Also not sure what drivers you are trying to install unless they are the XP ones, which in all likelihood won't work anyway. Something else I noticed on the download page for your headset,

    Windows VistaFor this product, no special Trust driver is needed. This is because either the product does not need a driver in order to function properly, or the default driver from your operating system should be used. If available, check the manual of your product for further instructions.
    Now with saying all that if you know which C-Media chip is in it,

    USB Audio | C-Media Electronics

    it is possible that you could get the drivers from C-Media. All C-Media products use C-Media reference drivers, only difference is that they are modified by the end manufacturer; custom applications, their own name showing in the control panel, etc. There is only one small problem with that at the moment though,

    Due to the expiration of Sensaura license, the driver download site will be temporarily suspended. We will reopen the download site when the new driver is available.
    Drivers | C-Media Electronics

    which comes back to knowing which chip is in it, and then you may be able to find a suitable x64 driver elsewhere until such a time as C-Media puts them back up on their site.

    Edit: Just had a look at the XP driver available from Trust and it looks like your headset uses the either the CM106 or CM108 chip in it (the INF lists both). As I said products using C-Media chips in them all use the same reference drivers, so using what I found in the INF I found this thread,

    Gigaware Headset Skype-Compliant XP/Vista Drivers - Skype Community

    I then downloaded and had a look at the x64 driver posted there and it lists one of the two DevID's found in the Trust driver,

    %CMIUSB.DeviceDesc%=USB, USB\VID_0D8C&PID_0006&MI_00

    you should be able to find the DevID of yours in Device Manager, and that driver should work for you. The pckage also contains the C-Media apps for controlling the headset but whether they are the generic C-Media ones or altered by Tritton (just added their name to them), that I can't tell you.

    If your headset doesn't have the above DevID you amy still be able to install the drivers by manually adding the other DevID from the Trust drivers,

    %CMIUSB.DeviceDesc%=USB, USB\VID_0D8C&PID_000C&MI_00

    in the "[C-Media.NTamd64]" section (may also want to add it to the "[C-Media]" section as well, minus the X64 part), with a slight change so that it looks like this,

    %CMIUSB.DeviceDesc%=USB106X64, USB\VID_0D8C&PID_000C&MI_00

    if all goes well the driver should install as well as the apps. If it does install about the only thing that should happen is to get the red warning box about the drivers not being tested (WHQL, not the same as unsigned), reason being is that any changes to the INF breaks the WHQL certificate.

    Last edited by stormy13; 10 Oct 2008 at 09:09 PM.
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    Re: Trust USB headset; windows installed driver automatically, can't get rid of it...

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    Re: Trust USB headset; windows installed driver automatically, can't get rid of it...

    Nice Work stormy13!!

    I wanted to give you some serious "rep" for that concise post, but the link wasn't on your post for me to do this for some reason.
    So I figured I'd post this at least and see if it pops up after because AFAIC, you deserve some for this post!

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    Re: Trust USB headset; windows installed driver automatically, can't get rid of it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Nice Work stormy13!!

    I wanted to give you some serious "rep" for that concise post, but the link wasn't on your post for me to do this for some reason.
    So I figured I'd post this at least and see if it pops up after because AFAIC, you deserve some for this post!
    I think there is a time limit on rep points. Ask the admin to confirm.

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