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Old 05-12-2008   #1
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Problems with 64Bit.....?

Hello Again Vista64... OK, so I've been building a new system over the last few weeks.. I'm almost done, and probably in the next day or 2 I'm going to be throwing Vista 64 on my new Build.. so before I get into that OS install mess I figured I'd ask the Pro's (Vistax64) what they thought and what all I should be looking for, worried about.. etc...

I've got myself a Q6700 with GO
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4GB RAM.. Coming, only have 2 for now.. (I heard while doing 64 install only have 1 stick of ram in.. after it's done add the other.. why?? will that make things easier)
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Basically I'm getting ready to install 64 bit on my new build. and I was hoping for some Direction.. some input on what problems I can expect to have.. I've read that a lot of people are doing fine with games and drivers.. so I don't think I'll have a problem there.. I play some CS, some Crysis and a lil COD4.. I wont have any problems with all those right.

So if anyone has any suggestions as to what I should do, things that I should LOOK for during install.. any tips to help with smooth install and smooth using.. please share..

What are the basic and often seen problems that I may have.. Should I have my CPU and Mobo drivers ready for after OS install.. or can i just update them online after install is finished..

Please share ur info with me I'd appreciate it..

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Re: Problems with 64Bit.....?

Looking at your spec, you should have no problems.

From my experience the main problem with Vista x64 is noob's blaming there old hardware incompatibilities or their lack of knowledge on the OS.

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Just one thing I would recommend is installing SP1 as soon as you have the OS loaded

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Re: Problems with 64Bit.....?

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Hello Again Vista64... OK, so I've been building a new system over the last few weeks.. I'm almost done, and probably in the next day or 2 I'm going to be throwing Vista 64 on my new Build.. so before I get into that OS install mess I figured I'd ask the Pro's (Vistax64) what they thought and what all I should be looking for, worried about.. etc...Please share ur info with me I'd appreciate it..

Thanks in Advanced everyone.
my rig consists of hardware of about 2 years old. socket 939 and 4gb ddr-ram. vista ultimate x64 installed without problems. everything worked right after the installation with the default vista drivers. only later i installed nvidia chipset-, video- and audio-drivers. i did not remove any memory-sticks before installing vista.

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Re: Problems with 64Bit.....?

Hm... cool sounds like I'll be having no problems then.. or hopefully not. We will see. I'm going to try and do it tomorro.. or hopefully tomorro.. so tell me this.. what about a Pirated version of 64... some guy gave me a disk.. but I'm not to comfortable with that idea.. and with having to WATCH witch updates you let go. and all that crap.. ya, I'm not to sure about that. do cracked versions work just as good as the regular ones..? or should I not risk that???

and ya I'll use both sticks of RAM and i'm sure the install will go fine..
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Re: Problems with 64Bit.....?

pirated version of Vista?? "some guy" gave you a disk? cough cough...lol
Yeah, I wouldn't install that, not a good idea...more problems than you could imagine.
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ya, some guy work works in the IT department at a family members work.. he gave it to me.. said I'd have no problems.. and all would be fine... not some Cough Cough.. lol OK..

How can it have that many problems.. it's the same thing all you guys have.. except without a real Code.. or is there more to it than that.. I'm not saying I'll use it. I'm not sure. I wanna get going soon tho on this.. Your a vista Enthusiast, of course you say buy it.. he he. Got a Spare copy I can use.. or even better.. is there a 30 day trial Of Vista 64 Ultimate I can download or anything from MIcrosoft.. and use it on my new build.. and then within the 30 days I will have time to Buy it.. sicnce I cant right now.. all my cash went into the good parts..

Is that possible, download and put on a CD a trial of Vista 64bit??
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Re: Problems with 64Bit.....?

Buy an OEM version of Amazon its a lot cheaper, i saved £200 and it installed without any problem. The only thing the oem lacks is ms support and you can only copy to 1 pc motherboard. I only need it for my gaming rig so its fine for me.

Here is my setup.

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Re: Problems with 64Bit.....?

Just do what i did, d/l or borrow the 64 bit version then use it for 30 days until the tryout period expires b4 u buy. It helped me iron out any bugs & i didnt have to worry about not being able to send the oem version back to the retailer (which you cant do). Also, i decided to buy the retail version from ebay, since i only wanted the 64 version of ultimate, i got it for around £90, considering the oem version is around £110 & the standard retail is £300 i saved a small fortune.

Also, save sp1 to your usb pen so the first time you log on to your newly created vista user account you can install it.
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Where can I download the 64 bit version.. and then buy it later before the 30 day trial is up?? I don't kno anyone that has it.. so where can i download it?
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Re: Problems with 64Bit.....?

I think your Vista 64 program will be OK on your rig, (mine Asus P5K Premium WiFi-AP, Q6600 O/C 3GHz, 8GB Reaper RAM, Samsung SATA 500GB, Ati X1950 Pro). The main problem with Vista 64-bit is not the O/S itself but the other software.

Vista Compatable is just that, 32-bit 90% OK, Vista 64-bit more like 50%! Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 says on the box 'System Requirements Microsoft Windows Vista'. But it did not work general opinion is vista compatable is 32-bit compatability. As a friend who knows a lot and worked for some of the 1970's builders and program writers says:-

" Do you remember before Vista was released all the computer manufacturers were selling new systems with labels on saying they were Vista ready and when Vista arrived they could not run the program properly with not enough memory and poor graphics. The courts decided that Vista ready meant that they could be made to run Vista, but then so could just about every other computer. There was a similar ruling on Vista compatible, you might have to run the thing as a 286 but it would run.

It would take twenty years at least to write a new operating system, what they do is modify what has gone before, if they deviate and make it incompatible they get flak. If they make a change that some customers have asked for they get others saying it is not what they want.

Vista compatible is a trade mark phrase that only applies to Vista 32 and in fact it only means, and the courts agreed, that the program will not crash, many of the computers and programs will not actually run properly but it seems the phrase does not mean that. Most low level utility’s that are designed for 32 will screw up a 64 bit system big time.

That makes you think? It mirrors what I have found. I used the Beta 2, RC1 and RC2 in 64-bit and its as bad now for finding drivers as it was then. In fact Linsky its worse as they no longer have Vista 64 support for thier Wireless Modems! You have to look at it logicaly if you were a software producer would you want users to carry on using the XP software they bought from you 6 years ago; or make some new software that works with Vista 64-bit so they will buy some new stuff and you make more money?

The general feeling in UK is if they could get away with selling software that stops working every 2 years and you had to buy it again they would. I been looking for a 64 bit photo editing programme for the last 6 months and still looking!

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