Sorry - am beginning to hate Vista - challenge for fans

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Kizzy

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No doubt these forums are here to help people come to terms with their new operating system. So it is with some trepidation that I post that I have quickly come to the conclusion that "I HATE VISTA!"

So far:-

I have had to get rid of internet security that I have bought and paid for - the upside of this I have been able to use some free programs. Still this has all involved quite a bit of my personal time (which is valuable).

I've been conned by Vista to configure a 'family safety' thingy which now requires a password to access the interent (see my post in "Internet and Networking" asking how to get rid of this thing)

I am constantly asked, as I reload software or perform needed downloads, if "I really did this" and asking me to press "continue" if I did.

Some software just does not work. My daughter wants to play a game where she is a deer, but it does not work with Vista.

I belatedly discover this forum is about "64 bit Vista", and checking my Vista disc I have 32 bit Vista. What the heck is the difference? Should I be here at all???

So basically I am kicking myself that I bought a new computer that came bundled with this operating system when I owned a legitimate copy of XP which, frankly, worked fine for me.

Vista may be meant to be easy to use, but take it from me, I have never had so many hassles, confusions and sheer 'pain in the arse' situations happen with a new computer since I bought this one bundled with Vista.

It is NOT user friendly - particularly not so for the computeruser-challenged. While no IT guru I am reasonably savvy, but it strikes me that many of the 'fixes' suggested here are well beyong the understanding of the average person.

I am miffed, and it wasn't for the fact that I would have to spend hours reloading certain applications I would be re-formatting the C drive and loading XP.

I challenge champions of Vista to change my mind.
 

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Hi Kizzy,

I've been conned by Vista to configure a 'family safety' thingy which now requires a password to access the interent (see my post in "Internet and Networking" asking how to get rid of this thing)
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You can get rid of this by stopping and disabling the Parental Control service.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/59910-services.html


I am constantly asked, as I reload software or perform needed downloads, if "I really did this" and asking me to press "continue" if I did.
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This is UAC. You have three options here, but the 2 is the safest option.

1. Turn Off UAC.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/48893-user-account-control-uac.html

2. Elevate administrator accounts.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/80938-user-account-control-uac-elevate-privilege-level.html

3. Enable the built-in Admnistrator account and use it instead.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67567-administrator-account.html


Some software just does not work. My daughter wants to play a game where she is a deer, but it does not work with Vista.
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You can try using Compatibility Mode on the program to see if it will run properly afterwards.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/75909-compatibility-mode.html


I belatedly discover this forum is about "64 bit Vista", and checking my Vista disc I have 32 bit Vista. What the heck is the difference? Should I be here at all???
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Although we are primarily 64 bit Vista, we discuss both 32 bit and 64 bit Vista here. Most everything will apply to both versions.

This will help explain the differences between 32 bit and 64 bit.

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/99613-64-bit-more-than-just-ram.html


Vista may be meant to be easy to use, but take it from me, I have never had so many hassles, confusions and sheer 'pain in the arse' situations happen with a new computer since I bought this one bundled with Vista.

It is NOT user friendly - particularly not so for the computeruser-challenged. While no IT guru I am reasonably savvy, but it strikes me that many of the 'fixes' suggested here are well beyong the understanding of the average person.
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It may seem difficult since Vista is new and different, but with patience and asking questions here we can help you through your problems with it. You may find that it is not so bad once you get use to the differences between Vista and XP, and start learning how to do a few tricks.

I hope this helps you,
Shawn
 

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Brink

thank you for your patient and kindly answers. I will peruse the links you have given me when I have a chance and get back with any more questions. However my DD is currently needing the 'puter, so I will have to get back to this issue later.

cheers
 

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I would stay with 32-bit Vista for your daughter's software. Some children apps still use 16-bit installers.
 

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Brink said:
Hi Kizzy,

I've been conned by Vista to configure a 'family safety' thingy which now requires a password to access the interent (see my post in "Internet and Networking" asking how to get rid of this thing)
Click to expand...
You can get rid of this by stopping and disabling the Parental Control service.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/59910-services.html
I hope this helps you,
Shawn
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Well it's a stubborn little bugger - did the disabling thing yet it was still there and not letting me access the internet without my password (this also after a reboot). I checked back in the 'services' and yep, it said 'disabled' all right.

I decided to turn it off and this is where I noticed a solution. In the 'turn off area" (and only in the 'turn off area') there is, down the bottom, in very very small print, an option to uninstall! Woohoo!

So I did :D

I will try the UAC thingy later - must gird my loins as doing anything in regedit gives me the willies! :confused:

Thanks again for other info
 

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Kizzy said:
Brink said:
Hi Kizzy,

I've been conned by Vista to configure a 'family safety' thingy which now requires a password to access the interent (see my post in "Internet and Networking" asking how to get rid of this thing)
Click to expand...
You can get rid of this by stopping and disabling the Parental Control service.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/59910-services.html
I hope this helps you,
Shawn
Click to expand...

Well it's a stubborn little bugger - did the disabling thing yet it was still there and not letting me access the internet without my password (this also after a reboot). I checked back in the 'services' and yep, it said 'disabled' all right.

I decided to turn it off and this is where I noticed a solution. In the 'turn off area" (and only in the 'turn off area') there is, down the bottom, in very very small print, an option to uninstall! Woohoo!

So I did :D

I will try the UAC thingy later - must gird my loins as doing anything in regedit gives me the willies! :confused:

Thanks again for other info
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Stopping the "Parental Controls" service is not the best idea. Have you tried the following procedure:
  1. Login to an Adminstrator account
  2. Open Control Panel
  3. Click "User Accounts and Family Safety"
  4. Click "Parental Controls"
  5. Click the user account for which you want to adjust Parental Controls
  6. If you want to turn off Parental Controls entirely, check "Off" under the "Parental Controls:" section
  7. If you only want to allow web access, click "Windows Vista Web Filter" under the "Windows Settings" section, then check "None" under the "Block web content automatically" section. You can then "Edit the Allow and block list" to explicitly deny/allow specific sites.
  8. Click OK
  9. Click OK
  10. Close Control Panel
Hope the above is of use to you...
 

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Hi Kizzy

Far be it from me to try and sway your opinions to becoming a Vista Fanboy...it's not that simple. MS changed the way things are done all over the place in Vista, so an XP user is basically LOST for awhile as you try to find all the things you're familiar with, like just about any user setting you know....changed...good luck finding them.
No, we'll help you with anything there..we promise. It's not easy to get used to Vista after using XP for many years and we all went thru that learning process. I still forget the new way to access some settings that I don't use too often and I have to wrack the brain and wander about till I find it again.

You'll find all the help you need here though, no matter that you have 32bit Vista, most things are exactly the same between the two and we know the differences well so we can help you with whatever. Hopefully you're already finding that these suggestions are getting you closer to where you need to be.
As for the UAC bit, some of us have that turned off but we're also rather security savvy and are on single user machines (in some cases), but that's your preference. It does get less intrusive as it learns from what I understand.

Anyway, Welcome and I hope you learn to "Accept" that with Vista, this is the way OS's are going and it's best to get used to it ASAP. It really is a step forward for MS's more secure OS promise and does get rid of some problems that have been integrated into the OS since W95 and just made worse over the years as they became more complicated. It's impossible to build a secure OS on a flawed structure and MS finally realized this a few years ago, but in making those changes to the way the OS worked it also made switching to Vista more difficult for allot of users.
 

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Hi Kizzy,
I totaly agree with chappy, when I moved from XP to Vista it took a little while to get used to it. I still have UAC turned on, it is less painful to click on a few buttons when you have to do administator task rather than having a piece of BAD software wreck havoc on files it is there to protect.
The new security features of Vista are there to help the users. If the user does not like them they can turn the features off but leave them selves open.
Vista is the way ahead, it is slower than xp because it has more features, a more powerful os requires a more powerful system.
 

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Dzomlija said:
Stopping the "Parental Controls" service is not the best idea.
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Why?

(genuine question).

I mean it's not as if the 'family safety' program has ever tried to explain to me what it is meant to be doing. That would be a good start instead of nagging me into accepting it and then making the computer, beyond my control, password protected from web connection - that sort of interference just gets my back up.

I know the kids aren't looking up 'iffy' stuff (jeesh the 'puter is by the kitchen, I'm about). A filter may be handy for stuff that comes up from an innocent search, but I have found filters not very efficacious.

So why put my faith in the 'family safety' when it won't even 'talk' to me about what it is doing????

And after having some issues with different logins on XP, this time I'm not bothering at all. The computer is the computer and we are sharing the one account. This has it's up side as I can see their emails and also view their internet history.

ETA: as to Vista being different - I could cope with that fine if the way you do things wasn't so radically changed. Ditto for the latest edition of Word. To change things so much that it is like learning a new application then no wonder users get their backs up.
 
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Hi Kizzy,

I believe Peter was suggesting that you try turning off Parental Control for that account first before just disabling the while thing to see if that will work for you instead.

Shawn
 

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Brink said:
Hi Kizzy,

I believe Peter was suggesting that you try turning off Parental Control for that account first before just disabling the while thing to see if that will work for you instead.

Shawn
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woops! :o

Thanks for clarification.

Thing is tho, I don't have any different accounts or logins. Couldn't be bothered with it this time around.
 

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That is part of the problem then - Parental Controls are setup up to limit *some* accounts (i.e. those for your children) from having too much access to the Internet, system devices, etc., while leaving *your* admin account fully active and not restricted.

Since you only have the one account, it applied its settings to your account. hence, disabling it for your account is tantamount to disabling it period, because the way it is *supposed* to work is that you limit some (1, 2, or more) accounts and use a single admin account to control what the other accounts can and cannot do. In this case, when it was set up, it only found one account to apply itself to - and so it did.

Since you know the password, I'd uninstall it (if it is a separate program - I seem to remember that Windows Live One Care offered you many times to download a Family Care product, and I think that maybe what you might have gotten into) or else if it's a built in Vista feature, disable it.
 

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