Extremely Slow Boot/Start

entropy3ko

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Ok I bought a PC with Windows Vista Home Premium, 32bit, Norton McAfee AV included.

Specs: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.5 GHz, 4 GB Ram, Videocard: Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT.

First time I started it up It worked fine. Then I installed some programs (two games, a DVD media player, MSN Messenger).

The first few times I restarted the PC it was fine, but then after Windows Vista installed the Updates it rebooted and now it reboots EXTREMELY slow. And this on the first day!

It takes at least 10 minutes at the Bios-Screen and then when it is done there it slowly (another 5 min at least) to start windows.

After start-up everything works fine.

What should I do? Did I do something wrong during an install?

I neve had such problems with XP, although removing McAfee AV really quickened the start up (not the initial Bios Booting though) whern I had XP.

Thank you.
 

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Did you have SP1 before you installed anti-virus, and the games? Actually a better question would be do you have SP1?
 

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System One

  • CPU
    Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU
    Motherboard
    Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A11
    Memory
    2 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerat
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.4" Wide Screen XGA+ display with TrueLife™
Try...

Control Panel --> System

It should say something in the 'Windows Edition' section.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Centrecom (Bendigo)
    CPU
    Core 2 Quad 6600
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP45-DS3 (Bios F5)
    Memory
    8Gb Corsair 6400-C5 (4x2Gb)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire HD4850
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 22" 2232BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    640Gb Western Digital SATA II + 500Gb Maxtor External
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 650W
    Case
    Antec Three Hundred
    Cooling
    Heaps of fans...some glow red
    Keyboard
    An old MS multimedia
    Mouse
    Logitech MX518
    Internet Speed
    Dial-up
    Other Info
    Wacom Intuos3 9x12 tablet,
    Saitek Cyborg Evo-force joystick,
    Logitech x-240 speakers,
    Pioneer DVD-rewriter
If I'm not mistaken that 'upgrade' option is for upgrading your edition of Vista, i.e. Home Premium to Ultimate.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Centrecom (Bendigo)
    CPU
    Core 2 Quad 6600
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP45-DS3 (Bios F5)
    Memory
    8Gb Corsair 6400-C5 (4x2Gb)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire HD4850
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 22" 2232BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    640Gb Western Digital SATA II + 500Gb Maxtor External
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 650W
    Case
    Antec Three Hundred
    Cooling
    Heaps of fans...some glow red
    Keyboard
    An old MS multimedia
    Mouse
    Logitech MX518
    Internet Speed
    Dial-up
    Other Info
    Wacom Intuos3 9x12 tablet,
    Saitek Cyborg Evo-force joystick,
    Logitech x-240 speakers,
    Pioneer DVD-rewriter
If it's taking 10mins at the bios screen then you have a hardware problem not Vista, I suggest you take the system back to where ever you bought it and let them check out the problem.
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Workstation
    Manufacturer/Model
    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
    Sound Card
    Creative
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
    Drive
    PSU
    1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT
    Cooling
    Enermax Liqtech 240
    Keyboard
    Surface Ergonomic.
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Other Info
    WinTV NovaTD
    HP CP1515n Color Laser
    Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
    Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
    APC 750i Smart UPS
  • Operating System
    windows 10
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Pro 3
    CPU
    1.9GHz Intel Core i5-4300U (dual-core, 3MB cache, up to 2.9GHz with Turbo Boost)
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    12" Multi Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2160 x 144
    Hard Drives
    128GB
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    yes
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
you have two anti-virus? norton and mcafee in your system? what for? i guess one anti-virus is enough. and for the record... norton really takes time to boot-up unlike other antivirus... especially if you have the full package... norton systemworks. try to unistall one anti-virus and see if it helps. goodluck. ;)
 

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I'm no expert, but the big name AVs have a lot to answer for when it comes to 'taking over' our systems. I use to be a McAfee fan and didn't mind Norton...and then it all changed when I found their software intrusive, demanding and difficult to uninstall. It's only my experience, but my relationship with these big players turned sour. When I found AVG this all changed. It is a very submissive bit of programming, i.e. it doesn't play the heavy-hand and it's free! When I tell AVG to sit, it sits.

I think kietsmark's suggestion is worth considering. If not, purge both of them and get with the AVG program!
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Centrecom (Bendigo)
    CPU
    Core 2 Quad 6600
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP45-DS3 (Bios F5)
    Memory
    8Gb Corsair 6400-C5 (4x2Gb)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire HD4850
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 22" 2232BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    640Gb Western Digital SATA II + 500Gb Maxtor External
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 650W
    Case
    Antec Three Hundred
    Cooling
    Heaps of fans...some glow red
    Keyboard
    An old MS multimedia
    Mouse
    Logitech MX518
    Internet Speed
    Dial-up
    Other Info
    Wacom Intuos3 9x12 tablet,
    Saitek Cyborg Evo-force joystick,
    Logitech x-240 speakers,
    Pioneer DVD-rewriter
Yes but it takes 10 minutes just to exit the 2nd screen of the boot u where it displays the specs (processor speed etc).

It first names the specs, the after a long while (at least 5 mins) says he has found Keyboard, mouse, USB poort etc, then after a few minutes he says he searches for the 3rd slave and after few mins he writes sometthing and then after a while it exit this screen (after at least 10 mins) and the starts windows, which takes also at leas 5 min...

is this only due to McAfee?! I doubt it...

I got only 1 AV: McAfee Security Center
 

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If it's taking 10mins at the bios screen then you have a hardware problem not Vista, I suggest you take the system back to where ever you bought it and let them check out the problem.


So it's a hardware problem?! I just bought the system 1 day ago .... how can it be?
 

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If it's taking 10mins at the bios screen then you have a hardware problem not Vista, I suggest you take the system back to where ever you bought it and let them check out the problem.


So it's a hardware problem?! I just bought the system 1 day ago .... how can it be?

not sure how mate ....but if it spends 10mins at the post screen the HDD is not even engaged so its got nothing to do with OS.
:)

maybe you could check your boot priority list in the BIOS ......it may be trying to boot a floppy drive as primary & the search for the HDD is causing the delay...

just a thought...
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    ME.....
    CPU
    Q9450 @ 3.6ghz
    Motherboard
    P5K PREMIUM
    Memory
    8GB 1066mhz buffalo firestix
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD 5970
    Monitor(s) Displays
    20'' syncmaster
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    160GB 7200RPM SEAGATE BARRACUDA IDE
    160GB 7200RPM SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA 2
    PSU
    XCILIO 850w
    Case
    unknown ATX
    Cooling
    Arctic cooler pro 775
    Keyboard
    logitech EX110
    Mouse
    logitech cordless optical
    Internet Speed
    2mb
Clear the event viewer of all errors. When you restart you only get current restart errors.

Remove the antivirus and all Norton/MacAfee stuff. Restart and reset the CMOS to default. Save and restart.
 

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System One

  • CPU
    pair of Intel E5430 quad core 2.66 GHz Xeons
    Motherboard
    Supermicro X7DWA-N server board
    Memory
    16GB DDR667
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB video card
    Hard Drives
    SAS RAID
Clear the event viewer of all errors. When you restart you only get current restart errors.

Remove the antivirus and all Norton/MacAfee stuff. Restart and reset the CMOS to default. Save and restart.

Well McAfee should not influencethe Bios Booting time... and I neve changed anything in the SETUP

Anyway I checked all steps:

All goes fine until:
>Ram OK 4096 MB (4096 MB installed)

The it freezes for at least 5 min the it says

> USB devices: 1 keyboard, 1 Mouse, 1 Hub, 4 storage devices

long wait

>Autodetect 3rd Master

wait

>Autodetect 3rd Slave

long wait

>Devices found (or something like that)
>Device 01
>Device 02
>Device 03
>Device 04

Then it writes something bout it found some stuff (did not write it down sorry)

The it goes balc with a bliping cursor for a while and the cursor goes down slowly

Then balckj again and load windows: which also takes at least 5 mins!!
 

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VISTA WEIRDNESS:

Ok lads, I run the automatic Vista updates (apparently there were still 3 updates since the first ones I had run) just for the fun of it (it was worth a shot since it couldnot get worse almost) and shut down the PC. I started the PC a few hrs later and......

Normal start!

So... either it was because of the Vista updates (I had to install the ones remaining) that caused the problem... or the Motherboard.

If the problem occusrs again without Vista updates... well then it's probably my motherboard, otherwise it was just a sofware glitch... a nice present from Vista ;)
 

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Were the updates you needed to install hardware updates? Vista always tries to get me to download nforce updates for my motherboard, so maybe with you downloading that, it fixed it.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550
    Motherboard
    XFX MB-750I-72P9 NF750i
    Memory
    4096MB Corsair XMS2 PC-5400
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS Nvidia Geforce GTX470
    Sound Card
    ASUS Xonar DX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 24" S2409W & Dell 20" E207WFP
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 & 1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    750GB Western Digital Caviar Black & 500GB Samsung
    PSU
    750 watt Thermaltake Toughpower
    Case
    Coolermaster Dominator 690 Nvidia Edition
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9700-NT Cooler, 6x 120mm Chassis Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11 Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (2007 edition)
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Other Info
    abit airpace 54mbps wireless PCI-E x1 card
UPDATE:

Well the problem came again, after I played a few hours of "Two Worlds" (I shut down and rebooted to check), then the moring after, the boot was fast again.

So it's most probably a Motherboard defect.
I thought it was very weird that Vista could affect the Bios Booting this way

I brought the PC back to the shop and I'll get a new one asap (it was only 2 days old).
 

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