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Old 09-24-2008   #1 (permalink)


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Perfect Motherboard

I'm looking for a new motherboard. I am prepared to pay for quality (although not over $1000) and am not interested in SLI. Overclocking ability is essential, socket 775, 1333FSB... Look at my system specs if you need more info. I am also thinking of getting a GTX280 and 1000W PSU.

NOTE - THE $1000 IS FOR MOBO AND PSU


Last edited by mattinahat; 09-27-2008 at 01:06 AM.. Reason: Amending errors
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Old 09-24-2008   #2 (permalink)


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Re: Perfect Motherboard

Hi Matt,

I recently got the GA-X48-DQ6 motherboard from Gigabyte. Among many other features, it has the latest X48 chipset from Intel, a 1600MHz FSB, and is easy to overclock with. I find it to be a great board. Plus, it is no where near that $1000 limit.

GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Overview - GA-X48-DQ6

Hope this helps,
Shawn
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Old 09-24-2008   #3 (permalink)


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Re: Perfect Motherboard

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by mattinahat View Post
I'm looking for a new motherboard. I am prepared to pay for quality (although not over $1000) and am not interested in SLI. Overclocking ability is essential, socket 775, 1333FSB (is that determined by CPU or Mobo??)... Look at my system specs if you need more info. I am also thinking of getting a GTX280 and 1000W PSU.
What is your goal? Is to overclock or is it to have the "latest greatest" hardware? Often, the two do not go together.

To be honest, if I were you (because I've never heard of a $1,000.00 OC mobo, and because I see you've already fried a few parts), instead of focusing on high priced hardware, I would focus on reading how to OC.

You "can" pay ~$350.00 for a DFI Lanparty X48 or an Asus Rampage, but if you know what you're doing, you can accomplish the same thing for ~$100.00. So... not trying to harsh or rain on your parade, but what is it you want to do?
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Old 09-25-2008   #4 (permalink)


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Re: Perfect Motherboard

Sorry the fried memory wasn't from overclocking but it was faulty. Whenever anything on in my computer is OCed my memory is always on a 1:1 with my FSB which means the RAM is effectively is underclocked.

Last edited by mattinahat; 09-27-2008 at 01:13 AM.. Reason: Refreshing my tired writing
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Old 09-25-2008   #5 (permalink)


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Re: Perfect Motherboard

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by mattinahat View Post
...Overclocking ability is essential, socket 775, 1333FSB (is that determined by CPU or Mobo??)... Look at my system specs if you need more info. I am also thinking of getting a GTX280 and 1000W PSU.
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by mattinahat View Post
Sorry the fried memory wasn't from overclocking but it was faulty. Whenever anything on in my computer is OCed my memory is always on a 1:1 with my FSB which effectively is underclocked.
Another motherboard isn't going to help you one bit if you don't know what you're doing. The P-35 is a very solid chipset and a great overclocker. You don't need a new board, you just need to figure out how to use the one you have. I would suggest you start here: Howto: Overclock C2q (quads) And C2d (duals) - A Guide V1.7 - OverclockersClub Forums

With what you already have you can get the most out of your cpu. New hardware isn't going to help you, understanding the process will.

Also, you do not need a 1K PSU... unless of course you're planning on also hooking up a mini-fridge and microwave oven to your machine? I know the hunger for a Hot-Pocket during intense gaming can at times be overwhelming, but... the big fridge can't be that far out of the way?
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Old 09-25-2008   #6 (permalink)


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Re: Perfect Motherboard

The $1000 was for PSU AND MOTHERBOARD. That was a mistake in my original post + I know how to overclock so thankyou for the guides but i dont need them. Recheck my specs and you will see i have changed them.

The P35 isn't that old (rev 2.1) and i got it BECAUSE it overclocks well. I got the E6750 for the same reason.

My original intention wasn't overclocking and the only reason i got into it is because the guy who ordered my computer (who also bought an identical - yes COMPLETELY identical - system) decided to overclock his...


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The fridge idea isn't too bad. Do you know anywhere i can go to buy a PSU powered mini-fridge?

Last edited by mattinahat; 09-27-2008 at 01:04 AM.. Reason: Talking about fridge attached to PSU
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Old 09-25-2008   #7 (permalink)


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Re: Perfect Motherboard

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by mattinahat View Post
The fridge idea isn't too bad. Do you know anywhere i can go to buy a PSU powered mini-fridge?
Good answer ...










Later Ted
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Old 09-25-2008   #8 (permalink)


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Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by mattinahat View Post
The $1000 was for PSU AND MOTHERBOARD. That was a mistake in my original post + I know how to overclock so thankyou for the guides but i dont need them. Recheck my specs and you will see i have changed them.

The P35 isn't that old (rev 2) and i got it BECAUSE it overclocks well. I got the E6750 for the same reason.

My original intention wasn't overclocking and the only reason i got into it is because the guy who ordered my computer (who also bought an identical - yes COMPLETELY identical - system) decided to overclock his...
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The fridge idea isn't too bad. Do you know anywhere i can go to buy a PSU powered mini-fridge?
You're just going to have to forgive me my presumptions. 24 hours ago you asked how rated fsb speed was derived, "is that determined by CPU or Mobo??". 11 hours ago you said you were running your RAM at 1:1, then said doing this left your fsb, "effectively is underclocked".

Despite these two statements, which would have anyone wondering if you knew what you were doing, 9 hours ago you said you "knew" how to overclock and didn't need the guide. I beg to differ, I think you do need to read it, but it's your machine, suit yourself. Btw, 1K PSU = 1 kilowatt = 1000 watt psu. I understood you the first time you said the $1,000.00 was for both.

... and lastly, just in case you do decide on that mini-fridge: USB MINI FRIDGE
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Old 09-27-2008   #9 (permalink)


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Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
Btw, 1K PSU = 1 kilowatt = 1000 watt psu. I understood you the first time you said the $1,000.00 was for both.
Yeah sorry about that i was kinda tired and didn't really read through your post properly...

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
11 hours ago you said you were running your RAM at 1:1, then said doing this left your fsb, "effectively is underclocked".
Not FSB underclocked the RAM is underclocked and only while the CPU is overclocked.

When my CPU is running at stock so is my RAM and FSB. 2.66GHz, 1066MHz and 1333MHz respectively.

But when my CPU is overclocked it might be 3.6GHz with a 1700MHz FSB (dont know if that is correct but as an example it works) and RAM running at 900MHz.

Because 450*8=3600 and 450*2=900.

Don't think I'm calling you stupid by spelling it all out because I'm not. It is more for me to keep my thoughts straight.

Thanks for the fridge link but i live in Australia and i don't think they ship internationally. If anyone can find a USB fridge able to be shipped to Asia-Pacific region would they please give me a shout.
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Old 09-27-2008   #10 (permalink)


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Re: Perfect Motherboard

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by mattinahat View Post
Not FSB underclocked the RAM is underclocked and only while the CPU is overclocked.

When my CPU is running at stock so is my RAM and FSB. 2.66GHz, 1066MHz and 1333MHz respectively.

But when my CPU is overclocked it might be 3.6GHz with a 1700MHz FSB (dont know if that is correct but as an example it works) and RAM running at 900MHz.

Because 450*8=3600 and 450*2=900.

Don't think I'm calling you stupid by spelling it all out because I'm not. It is more for me to keep my thoughts straight.

Thanks for the fridge link but i live in Australia and i don't think they ship internationally. If anyone can find a USB fridge able to be shipped to Asia-Pacific region would they please give me a shout.
With all the editing done today, it's difficult to figure out what it is you're now trying to say? Not to beat a dead horse, but it wouldn't hurt to read the guide; after all, how bad could current relevant information be?

Core2's don't clock the same way Athlons did. You do not need to concern yourself with running 1:1. Using a divider has no ill effect on performance; in fact, insisting on a 1:1 ratio will only limit your oc given 1066 RAM. Use whatever divider you have to to clock as high as you can.

Having the RAM run slower than 1066MHz, if done so you can get higher core clocks isn't a bad thing. Doing so also allows you to tighten the timings, which is also not a bad thing. You may very well find, like tons of guys before you, that a higher clocked core with lower clocked RAM with tighter timings makes for an overall faster rig.


Just fyi, at stock you're using a divider of 5:8 if your RAM is running 1066.

FSB : DRAM
1:1 = 333 MHz : 667 MHz
4:5 = 333 MHz : 833 MHz
2:3 = 333 MHz : 1,000 MHz
5:8 = 333 MHz : 1,066 MHz
3:5 = 333 MHz : 1,111 MHz
1:2 = 333 MHz : 1,333 MHz

FSB : DRAM
1:1 = 400 MHz : 800 MHz
4:5 = 400 MHz : 1,000 MHz
2:3 = 400 MHz : 1,200 MHz
5:8 = 400 MHz : 1,280 MHz
3:5 = 400 MHz : 1,333 MHz
1:2 = 400 MHz : 1,600 MHz

... of course, you knew all this already, so I'm not sure why I posted?
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