Safely Remove Hard Disk

panais

panais

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I have four (4) hard disks C:\ D:\ E:\ F:\ all are connected with sata cable and power cable.(of course)
The F:\ is outside from the pc and connected via external SATA and power cable (like usb NOT usb)
I know,with USB external hard disk i can use the safely remove option.

Is there any option to safely remove SATA hard disk without Shut Down the pc???

1)Start-Control Panel-Device Manager-Disk Drives-Right Click on hard disk-Properties-Policies-Untik\Disable the Enable write cashing on the disk??

2)Start-Control Panel-Device Manager-Disk Drives-Right Click on hard disk-Disable??

OR???... Any Idea or Suggestions?
Btw the external sata cable has ESATA logo on it.
 

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Hi Panais,

The safest way is to use the Optimize for quick removal option on the F: drive in Device Manager Hard disk properties. This way you will not need to worry about Safely Remove Hardware at all.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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Brink said:
Hi Panais,

The safest way is to use the Optimize for quick removal option on the F: drive in Device Manager Hard disk properties. This way you will not need to worry about Safely Remove Hardware at all.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
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Shawn, I always use the "Safely Remove" option on Flash Drives despite having "Optimize for Quick Removal:" selected. Does your advice apply to Flash Drives? Am I being needlessly cautious?

Norm
 

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Brink said:
Hi Panais,

The safest way is to use the Optimize for quick removal option on the F: drive in Device Manager Hard disk properties. This way you will not need to worry about Safely Remove Hardware at all.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
Click to expand...
The Optimize for quick removal is not accessible

hard disk properties Policies.JPG

 

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    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
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    Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4
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    KINGSTON HYPERX DDR2 4GB (2X2GB) PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL KIT
    Graphics Card(s)
    SAPPHIRE RADEON HD4890 OC 1GB GDDR5
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    2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1
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    1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video
    Hard Drives
    C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
    D:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 E:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 No Raid.Copy Paste Is The Safest Way.
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    F:\Sony high speed sata Dvd Rewriter
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Hi Norm,

The main purpose for the "Safely Remove Hardware" feature is to protect you from losing any data if the drive (ex: flash drive) is using write caching when removing it. This can be important if you have Vista set to write to this drive in the background. For example, with ReadyBoost, moved the page file or a temp folder to this drive, etc. You gain more performance with this option, but with a slight risk of losing data if you remove the drive and Vista just happens to not be done with it at the time.

With the flash drive set as "Optimize for Quick Removal" there really is no need to use the "Safely Remove Hardware" feature since it disables write caching on the drive. Whenever Vista is through copying the file, you can unplug the drive safely. With this option, the performance suffers a little bit, but you can remove the drive without worry of an accidental data loss from the write cache. USB and SATA drives were designed for hotplugging. It will not hurt anything to use the "Safely Remove Hardware" feature to be extra safe though.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
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    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
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    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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    HP Envy Y0F94AV
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    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
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    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
Panais,

Will the Enable write cache on the disk option stay unchecked? If so, then you will not need to worry about the "Safely Remove Hardware" feature. Of course, just make sure it is done copying any files before you disconnect it though. ;)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
Brink said:
Hi Norm,

The main purpose for the "Safely Remove Hardware" feature is to protect you from losing any data if the drive (ex: flash drive) is using write caching when removing it. This can be important if you have Vista set to write to this drive in the background. For example, with ReadyBoost, moved the page file or a temp folder to this drive, etc. You gain more performance with this option, but with a slight risk of losing data if you remove the drive and Vista just happens to not be done with it at the time.

With the flash drive set as "Optimize for Quick Removal" there really is no need to use the "Safely Remove Hardware" feature since it disables write caching on the drive. Whenever Vista is through copying the file, you can unplug the drive safely. With this option, the performance suffers a little bit, but you can remove the drive without worry of an accidental data loss from the write cache. USB and SATA drives were designed for hotplugging. It will not hurt anything to use the "Safely Remove Hardware" feature to be extra safe though.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
Click to expand...

Thanks for the advice Shawn.

Sometimes we think we know all about it, but we don't. Never to late to learn, eh!

Norm
 

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    Intel Quad Core 6600
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    Graphics Card(s)
    Zotac Amp Edition 8800GT - 512MB DDR3, O/C 700mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 206BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680 X 1024
    Hard Drives
    4 X Samsung 500GB 7200rpm Serial ATA-II HDD w. 16MB Cache .
    PSU
    550 w
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    Thermaltake
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Never Norm. I'm always learning something new everyday. :)

LOL, I just wish I could always remember it. ;)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
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