Random hangs and freezes

billybob

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Hi Everybody,

I just put together a new pc. I'm trying to get Vista x86 going, but have run into some serious problems...

Gigabyte ga-m59sli-s5 motherboard F8 bios (latest)
4 GB (4x1GB) sticks of corsair pc800
Maxtor 1 TB hdd sata 300
PNY Xlr8 geforce 9800 gt 1 GB pci-x video card
pc power and cooling silencer 750 power supply

I had the F7 bios, had to update to the F8 because the bios reports the wrong size on 1 TB hard drives. Flashed the bios from the Qbios utility right out of the bios setup screen and all was well. Vista Ultimate set up fine. No errors or problems. As expected Vista is only reporting 3.5 GB of ram. The first thing I did was install the chipset drivers that I downloaded from gigabyte. Halfway through the install vista started random hangs and froze during the install. Had to kill the power. Used lkg to get back in. Reinstalled the chipset drivers with no trouble. It's been hang up and freeze randomly ever since.

Maybe it's the ram issue? Maybe the chipset drivers? Gonna try removing some ram tonight until I can get some windows updates. If I don't do anything the system is fine. I can even browse the web. It seems to act up when I try to install drivers or updates.

Any Ideas? Nothing is OC'd and temps are nice and cool.
 

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nForce Driver is a newer nforce package than the one on Gigabyte site so may be try that. 50mb from September 08 vs. 21mb from December 06. I wonder if you should untick some featues :)

Im thinking about "Network Management Tools" which means Firewall among other things? Nvidia hardware firewall on NF4 chipset is one of the worst hardware/software creations ever. Guess improved on 590. You will have to untick if you dont want it. Can probably be disabled in bios even.
 

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System One

  • CPU
    AMD X2 6000
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DS5
    Memory
    Corsair 4x1gb 6400C4
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX 8800GTS XT 320mb, Generic Nvidia 6200 PCI 128mb
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek ALC889A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Samsung 245b, 20" Dell 2007WFP, 19" Samsung 193P
    Hard Drives
    WD Raptor 74gb, Maxtor 300gb, WD Caviar 16SE 500gb
    PSU
    Corsair 520W
    Case
    Cooler Master Centurion 532
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1100R
    Internet Speed
    20mb down, 1mb up
Some people have reported problems when installing Vista/SP1 with 4 GB memory but succeeded when removing 2 of them. Strange, but so it seems. Then they could add them back afterwards.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS720
    CPU
    Intel Quad Q6600 2.40GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell 0YU822, NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI SPP / SLI MCP
    Memory
    4GB DDR2 800MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gainward GeForce GTX 560 Ti, 1024 MB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2407WFP-HC
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    NVIDIA 640GB SATA Raid 0 (2x320GB) (7200 rpm) for Vista,
    Intel X25-M G2 160 GB for W7,
    Maxtor OT III External HDD,
    WD Elements 1 TB External HDD
    Internet Speed
    100/20
    Other Info
    M779 PCIe PAL/SECAM/DVB-T Desktop TV Tuner. Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller.
Speaking of unticking: Nvidia Away mode (you can disable/enable in bios Im sure)

Away Mode is an OS feature originally introduced with Update Rollup 2 for Microsoft
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005. Away Mode was conceived as a new power management usage model for media PCs that allows the computer to appear off to the user while the system continues to perform tasks that do not require user input, such as recording television and viewing Media Center Extender sessions.

If no need disable.

I would really check out if NAM, Network management is worth it. Basically use as little as possible/you know you want. I doubt even SATA driver is needed unless you go RAID. Im looking at this Bjorn3d.com - NVIDIA nForce 590 MCP, Reviews 'n news for the beast within us! thinking yeah, yeah :cool:
 

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System One

  • CPU
    AMD X2 6000
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DS5
    Memory
    Corsair 4x1gb 6400C4
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX 8800GTS XT 320mb, Generic Nvidia 6200 PCI 128mb
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek ALC889A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Samsung 245b, 20" Dell 2007WFP, 19" Samsung 193P
    Hard Drives
    WD Raptor 74gb, Maxtor 300gb, WD Caviar 16SE 500gb
    PSU
    Corsair 520W
    Case
    Cooler Master Centurion 532
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1100R
    Internet Speed
    20mb down, 1mb up
Thanks guys, I'll try those suggestions tonight and let you know. I'm not going to rest until it's resolved.

One thing to note... In task manager I looked at the performance tab and processor core 1 looks like a freaking seismograph during an earthquake. I checked the processes and nothing is showing up as eating cpu time.

I'll definitely try the new chipset drivers tonight. Troubles didn't show up until I installed them.
 

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Hi billybob, don't install drivers from window updates. Don't update your chipset drivers if not necessary. Try minimal components and reinstall them until everything work smoothly. While you at it, check the SATA cable and connections. Replace the with with aftermarket ones if you haven't done so. Post back.
 

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System One

  • CPU
    E6850
    Motherboard
    EVGA 122-CK-NF67-A1 680i
    Memory
    4 x OCZ Platinum 1GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB
    Sound Card
    SB X-Fi X Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 23" 5MS
    Screen Resolution
    2048 x 1152
    Hard Drives
    2 x Barracuda 7200.10 320GB RAID 0 / 1 x 500GB Maxtor
    PSU
    Seasonic 600W M12
    Case
    CM Centurion 5
    Cooling
    air
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
If you now use 2006 Nvidia drivers, I would guess especially for storage controller, they might not work that well with Vista SP1. Spiking cpu usage could be one way of showing it. Dont know and cant seem to find changelog for that package. But bugs with Nvidia chipset drivers is definitely not something new. Unless told otherwise I would use latest and greatest.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD X2 6000
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DS5
    Memory
    Corsair 4x1gb 6400C4
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX 8800GTS XT 320mb, Generic Nvidia 6200 PCI 128mb
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek ALC889A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Samsung 245b, 20" Dell 2007WFP, 19" Samsung 193P
    Hard Drives
    WD Raptor 74gb, Maxtor 300gb, WD Caviar 16SE 500gb
    PSU
    Corsair 520W
    Case
    Cooler Master Centurion 532
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1100R
    Internet Speed
    20mb down, 1mb up
Problem seems to be solved. The updated (2008) nforce chipset drivers did the trick. I had a hell of a time getting them installed, but once I did, everything smoothed right out. Thanks everybody.
 

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Problem seems to be solved. The updated (2008) nforce chipset drivers did the trick. I had a hell of a time getting them installed, but once I did, everything smoothed right out. Thanks everybody.

Glad you have things sorted out for you. Enjoy!
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    E6850
    Motherboard
    EVGA 122-CK-NF67-A1 680i
    Memory
    4 x OCZ Platinum 1GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB
    Sound Card
    SB X-Fi X Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 23" 5MS
    Screen Resolution
    2048 x 1152
    Hard Drives
    2 x Barracuda 7200.10 320GB RAID 0 / 1 x 500GB Maxtor
    PSU
    Seasonic 600W M12
    Case
    CM Centurion 5
    Cooling
    air
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
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