Can't install Windows Search

rallenr · Feb 15, 2009

When trying to install on a new 64-bit machine, am receiving "the update does not apply to your system" from the installer, and it fails.

Any help appreciated.

rive0108 · Feb 15, 2009

Manually downloaded Updates that have already been installed wil not reinstall.

Are you trying to configure the Original default Right click search (removed in SP1)

RIGHT CLICK SEARCH-

To restore the context menu, rename or delete the "LegacyDisable" value under the following registry keys:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\find
HKCR\CompressedFolder\shell\find
HKCR\Drive\shell\find

rallenr · Feb 16, 2009

No, I'm trying to install the MS product Windows Search (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/default.mspx). I've successfully used it on XP machines, but Vista seems to reject it.

rive0108 · Feb 16, 2009

Search 4 for Vista SP1
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...7F-C51B-49CD-B505-95B91B453284&displaylang=en

rallenr · Feb 16, 2009

Downloaded and ran it, but received same "update does not apply to your system" from Windows Update Standalone Installer.

rive0108 · Feb 16, 2009

rallenr said:
Downloaded and ran it, but received same "update does not apply to your system" from Windows Update Standalone Installer.

Are you sure you didnt already install it through Windows Update- it will not re-install if that is the case.

rallenr · Feb 16, 2009

No. I think we're confusing Vista's (and XP's) ordinary search facility, which is part of the OS, with the downloadable Windows Search utility (which competes with Google Desktop Search which is NOT available for 64-bit OSes). Both these apps index files and mail messages and web pages in the background.

Since Google's product, for reasons I've never understood, won't run in Vista x64, I presume Windows Search was Microsoft's answer to it, but for this new HP machine, it won't install.

chmillman · Feb 16, 2009

Pardon me for what is perhaps a dumb question... I thought this is what normal old search in Vista was all about - it indexes your files in the background, and shows you results as you type in the search box... Whether it is as effective as Google search is another question... --ch

rive0108 · Feb 16, 2009

ahh ok.

I thought you were refering to:

Windows Search 4.0 for Windows Vista SP1 (KB940157)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...7F-C51B-49CD-B505-95B91B453284&displaylang=en

Brief Description
Windows Search 4.0 is an updated component of Windows that enables instant search on your computer.

rallenr said:
No, I'm trying to install the MS product Windows Search (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/default.mspx). I've successfully used it on XP machines, but Vista seems to reject it.

This is The linked page you Provided- Windows 4.0 Search, to my knowledge is already part of Vista, thus does not need to be downloaded/reinstalled, i.e., "update does not apply to your system"

rive0108 · Feb 16, 2009

Ps- the Search Features Originally in the start menu and right click menus was removed after SP1- Windows Search (computer/desktop) can be restored with the above posted registry hacks.

rallenr · Feb 16, 2009

No, it's an application of its own. The error msg says it's an upgrade, but I believe that's a misnomer.

chmillman · Feb 16, 2009

I found this from a technet blog dated June 2008:

Hi everyone –

Thought I’d drop a line and remind you that we’re planning to release Windows Search 4.0 (KB940157) via Windows Update sometime in late July. Windows Search 4.0 updates previous versions of Search in Windows Vista SP1, Windows XP SP2 and Windows XP SP3, Windows Server 2003 SP2, Windows Server 2008, and Windows Home Server.

Windows XP users will see Windows Search 4.0 available as an Optional update, which means you must visit the Windows Update Web site to install it. Windows Vista users with SP1 installed will see the update as a Recommended update. This means that, if a Windows Vista user has set their machine to automatically install updates, Windows Search 4.0 will automatically install on PCs running Windows Vista SP1. The release of Windows Search 4.0 to Windows Update will be gradual for these users. If you’re running Windows Vista SP1, and you would like to install it right away, you can go to the Windows Update control panel and install it manually once it is made available.

This doesn't show up in my update history list, so I assume it's already in...?

If you visit the Windows Search 4.0 site, I think Microsoft's info is very confusing to say the least... --ch

rallenr · Feb 16, 2009

I discovered the installed Update for Windows Search and removed it successfully, rebooted and reinstalled the x64 version without any indication of errors. Still, it's just not there. I checked my XP machine where it's been installed for months, it operates fine -- shows the search window in the Taskbar and brings up a menu when clicked.

rive0108 · Feb 16, 2009

rallenr said:
I discovered the installed Update for Windows Search and removed it successfully, rebooted and reinstalled the x64 version without any indication of errors. Still, it's just not there. I checked my XP machine where it's been installed for months, it operates fine -- shows the search window in the Taskbar and brings up a menu when clicked.

Thats because it is integrated into Vista, and you wont see the search window unless you add it back using the registry hacks to restore it
The Start "search" button was removed in SP1 (it can be restored also), and with the hacks it is a right click "search" to open the menu
The right click search shows at the following location (when restored):
Start
Files/Folders
Drive
Computer

rive0108 · Feb 16, 2009

How to add the Seach desktop to Quicklaunch taskbar:

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/126499-search-desktop-shortcut.html

"There is an easier way to add a search shortcut to desktop. Open search with the window key + F. Left click on "Search Results" in the address bar and drag to the desktop. Click on "Create Shortcut Here" and you're done."

rallenr · Feb 16, 2009

I accomplished the Registry hacks with no evident problem. Should I delete the Windows Search update and reinstall?

rive0108 · Feb 16, 2009

rallenr said:
I accomplished the Registry hacks with no evident problem. Should I delete the Windows Search update and reinstall?

If It is working, and you have the right click search, then no. Are you going to add the search to taskbar/desktop?

To restore Search link to Start Menu:
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/145787-search-start-menu-button-restore-after-sp1.html

rallenr · Feb 16, 2009

I think we're still talking about two different search tools. Search, from the Start icon, has always been there as it is imbedded in Vista -- but this is not the downloadable app/Google Desktop alternative Windows Search 4.0 which installs its own search window in the taskbar and should be off indexing the disks. My presumption is that MS came up with WS4.0 to compete with Google and developed it as a separate app -- especially important since Google Desktop won't work as a 64-bit app.

After I hacked the Registry, I did reboot but still don't see any indication that WS4.0 is anywhere on the system.

rallenr · Feb 16, 2009

CH: Maybe I'm wrong. I just looked over my XP version again and the Taskbar icon calls up the same menu as the Start menu. What I'm not understanding is why the system doesn't appear to be indexing, but then I'm used to hearing a disk grinding away and this new system is much quieter than the old one. Let me look at it some more as it seems to be testing fairly well. I thank you very much for your help.

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