Make my Mouse work via PS2 on Vista x64

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cidsamuth

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Hello,

I searched, but couldn't find anything "on point."

I have a USB Logitech mouse. For reasons too lengthy to get into here, I want to hook it up via PS2.

So, I hooked it up with an adaptor. On bootup, the computer appears to recognize the mouse, as PS2 detection is enabled in the BIOS and the mouse's red light comes on.

However, when I get to my login page of Vista, the mouse doesn't work to control the pointer, and the red light is off. Even when I used the keyboard to just hit enter and log in as the "guest," the pointer will not respond when I got to the desktop.

Do I need to 'activate' the PS2 in Vista somehow?
 

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ummm,
Ps/2 to my knowledge requires a usb-ps/2 adapter to plug into ps/2 port for USB mice, and are not hotswappable; if you have as you said, already done this; try this:

Turn off computer, plug mouse into ps/2 port, restart

If that doesnt work, try this:
Unplug all devices(USB) then restart computer. Go to control panel, then device manager. Plug the mouse in now. In the device manager screen, 'mouse' appears, high light mouse then right click. 'unknown' device should be highlighted, update mouse driver, restart.



PS/2 ports are designed to connect the digital I/O lines of the microcontroller in the external device directly to the digital lines of the microcontroller on the motherboard. They are not designed to be hot swappable. Hot swapping PS/2 devices usually does not cause damage due to the fact that more modern microcontrollers tend to have more robust I/O lines built into them which are harder to damage; however, hot swapping can still potentially cause damage on older machines, or machines with less robust port implementations.
If they are hotswapped, the devices must be similar enough that the driver running on the host system recognizes, and can be used with the new device. Otherwise, the new device will not function properly. While this is seldom an issue with standard keyboard devices, the host system rarely recognizes the new device attached to the PS/2 mouse port. In practice most keyboards can be hotswapped but this should be avoided.
PS/2 connectors are not designed to be plugged in and out very often, which can easily lead to bent or broken pins. PS/2 connectors only insert in one direction and must be rotated correctly before attempting connection. Most but not all connectors include an arrow or flat section which is usually aligned to the right or top of the jack before being plugged in. The exact direction may vary on older or non-ATX computers and care should be taken to avoid damage or bent pins when connecting devices.
As noted, in a standard implementation both PS/2 ports are usually controlled by a single microcontroller on the motherboard
 
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System One

  • CPU
    T7600G Core2Duo 2.66 Ghz
    Motherboard
    Intel 945PM + ICH7 Chipset
    Memory
    4GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobility Radeon x1900 256MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    WUXGA 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    640GB 7200RPM SATA/RAID 0 (2x320GB)
    and 320GB 7200RPM External
    Mouse
    Wireless Microsoft 3000
    Internet Speed
    10 mbps/2 mbps
    Other Info
    Optical Drive:
    Panasonic UJ-220 DL BD-RE (Blu-Ray)
If by "hot swap," you mean that I disconnected the USB mouse and reconnected the mouse to the PS2 (via the USB-to-PS2 adaptor) WHILE THE COMPUTER WAS RUNNING, I did not.

I shut the computer down, unplugged the USB mouse, plugged it into the PS2 port, and started back up.

As the computer booted up, it apparently recognized the mouse, as the mouse light turned on (the PS2 detection is enabled in BIOS). However, when it got to the Vista login page, the mouse was no longer lit, nor would it move the cursor.
 

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cidsamuth said:
No one else has encountered this?
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Try logging in to an Administrative level account, and allow hardware detection to be completed. Most hardware will only be detect after login.

If that fails, use the keyboard to force a refresh of hardware:
  1. Use the <WINDOWS_KEY>+<R> shortcut to open the Run dialog
  2. Type "control" (without the quotes) and press <ENTER>
  3. Use a combination of <TAB> and <ARROW KEYS> to highlight "System and Security" (highlighted means there will be a dotted line around the selected item). Press <ENTER> to "click" the item
  4. Again, use <TAB> and <ARROW KEYS> to highlight "Device Manager", and press <ENTER> to "click" it. If you get a UAC prompt, use <ALT>+<Y> to "click" the Yes button
  5. When in Device Manager, use the <ARROW KEYS> to highlight any malfunctioning devices, then press <DELETE> to remove them. (Tip: <ENTER> "clicks" OK, <ESCAPE> "clicks" Cancel)
  6. When you have removed all "bad" devices, press and hold the <ALT> key, then press <A> to open the "Action" menu, press <A> again to "click" the "Scan for hardware changes" menu item
  7. If all goes well, the mouse should be detected this time.
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom 9600 Quad
    Motherboard
    ASUS MB-M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiFi
    Memory
    2 x A-Data 2GB DDR2-800
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ATI Radeon HD 2400PRO
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAHARA 21"
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1200
    Hard Drives
    2 x 80GB Seagate (I)
    2 x 120GB Seagate (I/S)
    2 x 200GB Seagate (I/S)
    2 x 250GB Seagate (I/S)
    PSU
    800W
    Case
    Thermaltake Tai-Chi
    Cooling
    Tai-Chi Water Cooler
    Keyboard
    Genius
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    384kbps
    Other Info
    Currently dual booting between Vista x64 Ultimate Windows 7 BETA x64
Dzomlija said:
cidsamuth said:
No one else has encountered this?
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Try logging in to an Administrative level account, and allow hardware detection to be completed. Most hardware will only be detect after login.
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Thank you for the in-depth response.

I'll start with the easier route first. While I know you generally want to be shut down before plugging the mouse into the PS/2, would you recommend that I get logged in as administrator, then disconnect the mouse from the USB and reconnect to the PS/2 and see if it detects the hardware?

If PS/2 is enabled in the BIOS, why is it not detecting the mouse at log in? It almost seems like the mouse is recognized from the BIOS, but then control is "passed off" to Vista at the login screen, and I lose it there.
 

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cidsamuth said:
Dzomlija said:
cidsamuth said:
No one else has encountered this?
Click to expand...

Try logging in to an Administrative level account, and allow hardware detection to be completed. Most hardware will only be detect after login.
Click to expand...

Thank you for the in-depth response.

I'll start with the easier route first. While I know you generally want to be shut down before plugging the mouse into the PS/2, would you recommend that I get logged in as administrator, then disconnect the mouse from the USB and reconnect to the PS/2 and see if it detects the hardware?

If PS/2 is enabled in the BIOS, why is it not detecting the mouse at log in? It almost seems like the mouse is recognized from the BIOS, but then control is "passed off" to Vista at the login screen, and I lose it there.
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Install it and check the device manager and see the status of the device.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    T7600G Core2Duo 2.66 Ghz
    Motherboard
    Intel 945PM + ICH7 Chipset
    Memory
    4GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobility Radeon x1900 256MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    WUXGA 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    640GB 7200RPM SATA/RAID 0 (2x320GB)
    and 320GB 7200RPM External
    Mouse
    Wireless Microsoft 3000
    Internet Speed
    10 mbps/2 mbps
    Other Info
    Optical Drive:
    Panasonic UJ-220 DL BD-RE (Blu-Ray)
Do you have a functioning keyboard? Use enter and arrows

You might just have a defective mouse-try replacing it?
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    T7600G Core2Duo 2.66 Ghz
    Motherboard
    Intel 945PM + ICH7 Chipset
    Memory
    4GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobility Radeon x1900 256MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    WUXGA 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    640GB 7200RPM SATA/RAID 0 (2x320GB)
    and 320GB 7200RPM External
    Mouse
    Wireless Microsoft 3000
    Internet Speed
    10 mbps/2 mbps
    Other Info
    Optical Drive:
    Panasonic UJ-220 DL BD-RE (Blu-Ray)
Well, the mouse works fine via USB, so I don't think its defective.

Again, let me stress, when I plugged it in to the PS/2, the infra-red light on the mouse comes on during original boot-up. It shuts off before the Vista login screen and doesn't come back on.
 

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Hit the "windows" key this will bring up start menu,type, dev click enter, or use arrow to highlight device manager in "programs", hit enter key
uac prompt will come up, use arrow to highlight "continue", hit enter
look for yellow exclamation marks
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    T7600G Core2Duo 2.66 Ghz
    Motherboard
    Intel 945PM + ICH7 Chipset
    Memory
    4GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobility Radeon x1900 256MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    WUXGA 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    640GB 7200RPM SATA/RAID 0 (2x320GB)
    and 320GB 7200RPM External
    Mouse
    Wireless Microsoft 3000
    Internet Speed
    10 mbps/2 mbps
    Other Info
    Optical Drive:
    Panasonic UJ-220 DL BD-RE (Blu-Ray)
cidsamuth said:
Well, the mouse works fine via USB, so I don't think its defective.

Again, let me stress, when I plugged it in to the PS/2, the infra-red light on the mouse comes on during original boot-up. It shuts off before the Vista login screen and doesn't come back on.
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cidsamuth said:
If PS/2 is enabled in the BIOS, why is it not detecting the mouse at log in? It almost seems like the mouse is recognized from the BIOS, but then control is "passed off" to Vista at the login screen, and I lose it there.
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If it works fine with usb- why do you say you have no functional mouse?. Use two mice- Just plug one into usb port, the other into the ps2 port, and use the usb mouse to troubleshoot ps2 mouse.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    T7600G Core2Duo 2.66 Ghz
    Motherboard
    Intel 945PM + ICH7 Chipset
    Memory
    4GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobility Radeon x1900 256MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    WUXGA 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    640GB 7200RPM SATA/RAID 0 (2x320GB)
    and 320GB 7200RPM External
    Mouse
    Wireless Microsoft 3000
    Internet Speed
    10 mbps/2 mbps
    Other Info
    Optical Drive:
    Panasonic UJ-220 DL BD-RE (Blu-Ray)
Guys, I appreciate all the help.

The problem must be simply the Logitech USB mouse (i.e. it doesn't work via an adaptor to PS2), or the adaptor itself. Here's why I think so:

I dug down deep in my closet and found another PS2 mouse (a defective mouse that "jumps" alot, but okay for the purposes of this test), which I plugged in and it worked fine (excluding the aforementioned "jumping"). I checked device manager and updated the software, no problems.

I then subsequently shut down and plugged the Logitech and adaptor back into the PS2. Again, it lit up fine through the original bootup, then stopped by the time Vista popped up. Using the instructions from you folks, I used the keyboard to check device manager . . . a mouse no longer even showed as plugged in!

I then shut down and plugged the Logitech back into the USB port . . . and it worked great.

So, again, either the Logitech simply doesn't "like" being plugged into the PS2, it is incompatible with the adaptor (Microsoft), the adaptor is bad, the adaptor is incompatible with my HP . . . or some combination thereof. The one strange observation: The adaptor seemed to fit into the PS2 port very tight, almost like it didn't want to fit. On the other hand, the PS2 mouse seemed to fit somewhat loose. And, yes, I did ensure I was inserting them correctly.

I give up. My Logitech sure does work great in the USB port :D
 

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Yep sounds like a bad ps2 adapter

If as you say the actual ps2 mouse works in the port, the usb mouse you are using the ps2 adapter works fine in usb port, but when attaching the ps2 adapter it no longer works.

PS/2 to USB Keyboard/Mouse Converter - SW-2002, $5.95
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    T7600G Core2Duo 2.66 Ghz
    Motherboard
    Intel 945PM + ICH7 Chipset
    Memory
    4GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobility Radeon x1900 256MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    WUXGA 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    640GB 7200RPM SATA/RAID 0 (2x320GB)
    and 320GB 7200RPM External
    Mouse
    Wireless Microsoft 3000
    Internet Speed
    10 mbps/2 mbps
    Other Info
    Optical Drive:
    Panasonic UJ-220 DL BD-RE (Blu-Ray)
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