Will I have a bottleneck?

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UndeR

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Hi guys,

I built a new system which you can see at my system specs. As you can see, the only bottleneck I have now is the RAM as I can't go higher than 800Mhz ubtil I change my mobo but is not driving me crazy. My question is about my HDDs. I have only 1 x 750 GB with 32 MB of cache and there's a 2nd one coming next week and it's exactly the same. What I would like to do is have them both on RAID 1 to have backup of all my files and have a 3rd HDD with my OS and software. The problem is that I can't afford a 3rd HDD right now. Will a 250 GB WD Caviar with only 8 MB of cache make a huge bottleneck? They are al SATA 3.0 G/Sec access of course.

Thanks in advanced,
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-Built Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 OC to 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    EVGA 780i Triple SLi
    Memory
    8GB (4 x 2GB OCZ DDR2-1066 / PC2-8500 / Platinum Series)
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI nVidia GTX 295 SLi
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x ViewSonic VA2216w
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050 each
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 750GB / 32MB / 7.200 RPM)
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR2 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake V9
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Mini Typhoon
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Revolution
    Internet Speed
    1 mb/s
First off, i have one hunch why you cannot reach 1066 on your ram. OCZ is a very "cheap" brand. sure at the time you probably had no other choice about what ram you were going to choose, but OCZ doesnt overclock to its full potential most of the time. I always go with corsair or G skill which sometimes can be the cheaper brand. but on a 780i it shouldnt be a problem. with the 680i, it was because it was new to the 1066 interface.

now onto the hard drive question. where you planning on buying the 3rd HDD? and how much is your budget? because 250 Gb go for a low 40-50$ or not even that much sometimes. But no, you shouldnt have a bottleneck with any SATA drive these days.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    JUST ME/Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad Q9550 E0 2.83 Ghz @ 4037.5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    EVGA NFORCE 790I SLI FTW Digital PWM
    Memory
    8 Gig Corsair XMS3 DHX 1600 Mhz DDR3 CAS 9
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x GTX 480's w/ Koolance VID-NX480's
    Sound Card
    Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium (non-Fatal1ty) Edition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer P243W 24" Premium Series
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1 TB HDD 32mb cache
    (3 Platters, 6 Heads model)
    PSU
    Ultra X4 1050W PSU 76A Rated 12V SLI
    Case
    Antec 1200 Full tower ATX case
    Cooling
    x2 Thermaltake Blue LED 120mm 2800rpm fans, Zalman CNPS 9900
    Keyboard
    Logitech LX310 2.4 Ghz Wireless Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech LX310 2.4Ghz Wireless Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    32mb Download, 12mb Upload from Comcast
    Other Info
    300$ custom watercooling setup. Antec 1200 big boy Radiator, Dual bay XPSC reservoir with clear bubble window, OCZ hydropulse 800L/H 12v pump, 12 ft tygon 1/2" ID, 3/4" OD tubing, Feser One UV Green 1 L fluid. (and VID-NX480 waterblock)
MDA400 said:
First off, i have one hunch why you cannot reach 1066 on your ram. OCZ is a very "cheap" brand. sure at the time you probably had no other choice about what ram you were going to choose, but OCZ doesnt overclock to its full potential most of the time. I always go with corsair or G skill which sometimes can be the cheaper brand. but on a 780i it shouldnt be a problem. with the 680i, it was because it was new to the 1066 interface.

now onto the hard drive question. where you planning on buying the 3rd HDD? and how much is your budget? because 250 Gb go for a low 40-50$ or not even that much sometimes. But no, you shouldnt have a bottleneck with any SATA drive these days.
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Hi MDA and thanks for the answer.

Unfortunatelly the 780i only supports up to 800 Mhz and only 1200Mhz in case you use SLI ready modules so I'm stuck at 800Mhz untill I can change the mobo -.-

About the disk, in my country it's impossible to find HDD smaller than 750GB 32NB buffer now. Importers try to so hard to keep up with the latest stuff that they forget about the basics.

But I think you are right... it might read a little more often but the transfer rate should be as fast as my other HDDs.

Thanks ;)
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-Built Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 OC to 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    EVGA 780i Triple SLi
    Memory
    8GB (4 x 2GB OCZ DDR2-1066 / PC2-8500 / Platinum Series)
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI nVidia GTX 295 SLi
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x ViewSonic VA2216w
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050 each
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 750GB / 32MB / 7.200 RPM)
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR2 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake V9
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Mini Typhoon
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Revolution
    Internet Speed
    1 mb/s
ah yes i have seen that before that it jumps from 800 mhz support to 1200 with sli ready. i did get my system to post at 1000 mhz with timings of 5-5-5-18-T2 if you could try that. my friend did with his 780i as well and worked for him and same on my old 680i.

let me say this, in your case, any SATA hard drive you buy wont give you any bottleneck. so depending on whats available. if you get any capacity, it really doesnt matter.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    JUST ME/Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad Q9550 E0 2.83 Ghz @ 4037.5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    EVGA NFORCE 790I SLI FTW Digital PWM
    Memory
    8 Gig Corsair XMS3 DHX 1600 Mhz DDR3 CAS 9
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x GTX 480's w/ Koolance VID-NX480's
    Sound Card
    Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium (non-Fatal1ty) Edition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer P243W 24" Premium Series
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1 TB HDD 32mb cache
    (3 Platters, 6 Heads model)
    PSU
    Ultra X4 1050W PSU 76A Rated 12V SLI
    Case
    Antec 1200 Full tower ATX case
    Cooling
    x2 Thermaltake Blue LED 120mm 2800rpm fans, Zalman CNPS 9900
    Keyboard
    Logitech LX310 2.4 Ghz Wireless Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech LX310 2.4Ghz Wireless Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    32mb Download, 12mb Upload from Comcast
    Other Info
    300$ custom watercooling setup. Antec 1200 big boy Radiator, Dual bay XPSC reservoir with clear bubble window, OCZ hydropulse 800L/H 12v pump, 12 ft tygon 1/2" ID, 3/4" OD tubing, Feser One UV Green 1 L fluid. (and VID-NX480 waterblock)
All right, thanks a lot.

Will try that HDD setup on wednesday when the other 750GB arrives.

Gonna try that with the RAM too.

Thanks again ;)
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-Built Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 OC to 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    EVGA 780i Triple SLi
    Memory
    8GB (4 x 2GB OCZ DDR2-1066 / PC2-8500 / Platinum Series)
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI nVidia GTX 295 SLi
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x ViewSonic VA2216w
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050 each
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 750GB / 32MB / 7.200 RPM)
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR2 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake V9
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Mini Typhoon
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Revolution
    Internet Speed
    1 mb/s
Of Course :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    JUST ME/Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad Q9550 E0 2.83 Ghz @ 4037.5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    EVGA NFORCE 790I SLI FTW Digital PWM
    Memory
    8 Gig Corsair XMS3 DHX 1600 Mhz DDR3 CAS 9
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x GTX 480's w/ Koolance VID-NX480's
    Sound Card
    Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium (non-Fatal1ty) Edition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer P243W 24" Premium Series
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1 TB HDD 32mb cache
    (3 Platters, 6 Heads model)
    PSU
    Ultra X4 1050W PSU 76A Rated 12V SLI
    Case
    Antec 1200 Full tower ATX case
    Cooling
    x2 Thermaltake Blue LED 120mm 2800rpm fans, Zalman CNPS 9900
    Keyboard
    Logitech LX310 2.4 Ghz Wireless Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech LX310 2.4Ghz Wireless Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    32mb Download, 12mb Upload from Comcast
    Other Info
    300$ custom watercooling setup. Antec 1200 big boy Radiator, Dual bay XPSC reservoir with clear bubble window, OCZ hydropulse 800L/H 12v pump, 12 ft tygon 1/2" ID, 3/4" OD tubing, Feser One UV Green 1 L fluid. (and VID-NX480 waterblock)
bottleneck........no

increasing ram speed not worth it , the increase in bandwidth verses the increase in performance isnt worth the hassle you'll never notice , not even in high end games

it'll look inpressive if you run a memory benchmark but thats it

the only way to make a real differance is to upgrade to DDR3

i had issues running my ram at 1066 with my cpu overclock , i had to drop it to 800 using multipliers , the differance in performance in games and all other applications isnt noticable , game benchmarks stay exactly the same
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 4Gig / Titan Fenir
    Motherboard
    XFX 780i
    Memory
    4GB OCZ PC2-8500C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gainward GTX260/216 SLI
    Sound Card
    Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell UltraSharp 2209WA 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital raptor 10000rpm sata
    PSU
    OCZ Modstream 700w
    Cooling
    Titan Fenir
    Keyboard
    Razer Reclusa
    Mouse
    Logitech G5 Gamer
    Internet Speed
    8mb
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