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Starspejd

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Hey everyone

This is my first post, so bear with me if I miss a thing or two.

A few hours ago, my brother and I were getting ready to play some Age of Mythology. It's a somewhat old game, developed by Microsoft themselves, which only serves to confuse me even more. Anyway, we were about to start when Vista asked me if I would update my Java. Since you have to manually do everything anyway, I say no. As I recall, my screen blinked a few times, got up some weird colours and then came the famous blue dumb screen.

We tried to restart the computer manually, but to no avail. Vista loaded Windows, but before prompting me with a login screen, it dumbed again. We then tried to boot it in safe mode. Everything works fine there, so we tried to reboot normally again. Another dumb. We tried yet again, after removing the disc. Nothing.

Since then we've tried system recovery to set it back a few days, we've tried to let it repair itself, we've tried to unplug everything (everything - mouse, keyboard, sound - everything but the monitor). The monitor, by the way, have some weird lines running down the screen, which notably aren't there when booting in safe mode.

The error code that appears on the dumb is as follows:
STOP: 0x000000050 (0x8F875370,0x00000001,0x8EB5AB0A,0x00000000)

My hardware specs are:
Hewlett-Packard Company m8047.sc
Intel(R) Core2(TM) CPU 6320 @ 1.86GHz 1.87GHz
2.00 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE
All the specs can be seen here ( HP Pavilion Media Center m8047.sc Desktop PC Product Specifications - HP Customer Care (United States - English) ). Nothing has been changed since the day of purchase, except my speakers, keyboard and mouse, all of which are plug-and-play.

I really hope some of you have some ideas. I'm few steps away from an actual re-install or upgrade, so any help is much appreciated (even if I've already tried it).

I thank you all in advance for your help.
Starspejd
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Media Center m8047.sc Desktop PC
    CPU
    Core 2 Duo E6320 (C) DC 1.86 GHz 1066 MHz front
    Motherboard
    Leonite-GL8E
    Memory
    2 GB 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 7500LE
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC 888 chipset
Hello Starspejd,
Here are the results of your bugcheck.

STOP 0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

Usual causes: Defective hardware, Faulty system service, Antivirus, Device driver, NTFS corruption, BIOS.

Boot into safe mode and open a command prompt.
Type sfc/scannow and press enter, let it scan, if errors are found you may need to do this more than once, until system is clean.

Until this is fixed, un-install your AV software. (don't forget to re-install after).

Defective hardware would most likely be memory, but try the scan first.

Give this a go and post your results, good luck.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    QX9650 (black box) [email protected]
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Premium
    Memory
    8GB-4x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR 2-1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x ASUS EAH 4870 X 2 (Quad)
    Sound Card
    Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Fujitsu Siemens 22inch flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    150 Gig WD Raptor
    300 Gig Maxtor
    300 Gig Maxtor, (External)
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 1000
    Case
    CoolerMaster N-Vidia stacker 830
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12P x 1x120mm fan, 6x120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech G5
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Other Info
    Audio FX Pro 5+1 gaming head set
Thank you for the advice.

Sadly, it didn't solve anything. It runs the process, it verifies at a 100% completion and says that Windows haven't been able to find any integrity errors (I'm translating to the best of my abilities, but not sure of the terminology).
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Media Center m8047.sc Desktop PC
    CPU
    Core 2 Duo E6320 (C) DC 1.86 GHz 1066 MHz front
    Motherboard
    Leonite-GL8E
    Memory
    2 GB 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 7500LE
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC 888 chipset
If you have two sticks of ram, remove one and try, if all goes well, remove that one and try the other one. This will eliminate the ram one way or the other.

If the ram is good, then the next thing to try is the drivers, try the ram first, and if that is all good, we can take a look at the drivers.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    QX9650 (black box) [email protected]
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Premium
    Memory
    8GB-4x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR 2-1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x ASUS EAH 4870 X 2 (Quad)
    Sound Card
    Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Fujitsu Siemens 22inch flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    150 Gig WD Raptor
    300 Gig Maxtor
    300 Gig Maxtor, (External)
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 1000
    Case
    CoolerMaster N-Vidia stacker 830
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12P x 1x120mm fan, 6x120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech G5
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Other Info
    Audio FX Pro 5+1 gaming head set
Okay, I'll try that. But I'll admit that I'm not to comfortable about messing around inside my computer. If my brother is, then we might take a look at it today or tomorrow, but if not, then it could be as long as until the weekend. But I'll let you know what happens when we try it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Media Center m8047.sc Desktop PC
    CPU
    Core 2 Duo E6320 (C) DC 1.86 GHz 1066 MHz front
    Motherboard
    Leonite-GL8E
    Memory
    2 GB 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 7500LE
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC 888 chipset
Starspejd said:
Hey everyone
This is my first post, so bear with me if I miss a thing or two.

A few hours ago, my brother and I were getting ready to play some Age of Mythology. It's a somewhat old game, developed by Microsoft themselves, which only serves to confuse me even more. Anyway, we were about to start when Vista asked me if I would update my Java. Since you have to manually do everything anyway, I say no.
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Why didn't you let Java update ??
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My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    Memory
    2 GB
#Drew43920
Had I said yes, it would download the update, and then do nothing until I install it. Since I'd forget to install it, it would do the same thing the next time I used my computer. So I thought "to hell with it" and decided not to let it update.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Media Center m8047.sc Desktop PC
    CPU
    Core 2 Duo E6320 (C) DC 1.86 GHz 1066 MHz front
    Motherboard
    Leonite-GL8E
    Memory
    2 GB 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 7500LE
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC 888 chipset
Starspejd said:
#Drew43920
Had I said yes, it would download the update, and then do nothing until I install it. Since I'd forget to install it, it would do the same thing the next time I used my computer. So I thought "to hell with it" and decided not to let it update.
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If you do not install updates you will have problems.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    Memory
    2 GB
You could also try running the HP Diagnostic tools and see if they come up with anything.

Ed
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Home Grown Desktop
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5B-E
    Memory
    3006 MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 512MB
    Sound Card
    Motherboard - SoundMax
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic VX2235wm / Dell 17" Generic PnP Anolog
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050 x 4294967296 colors / 1024 x 768
    Hard Drives
    3 x ST3250620AS 250GB SATA IDE
    1 x WDC WD1200JD-00GBB0 120 GB SATA IDE
    PSU
    Enerrmax 535W All-in-one SLI 20/24+6+
    Case
    Antec Sonata
    Cooling
    Antec 12cm SmartCool
    Keyboard
    Logitech LX710
    Mouse
    Logitech MX100 Laser
    Internet Speed
    Bell Canada DSL 12MBps (supposedly)
    Other Info
    2 x HP Pavilion 9700v Laptops
stoneys-nutz said:
Hello Starspejd,
Here are the results of your bugcheck.

STOP 0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

Usual causes: Defective hardware, Faulty system service, Antivirus, Device driver, NTFS corruption, BIOS.

Boot into safe mode and open a command prompt.
Type sfc/scannow and press enter, let it scan, if errors are found you may need to do this more than once, until system is clean.

Until this is fixed, un-install your AV software. (don't forget to re-install after).

Defective hardware would most likely be memory, but try the scan first.

Give this a go and post your results, good luck.
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Sorry for intruding, but how do you figure that out without looking at the crash log?

Thanks -kelvin
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Hp pavillion a6110n
    CPU
    amd athlon 64 x2 live! 4400+
    Memory
    4 gigs 3.3 useable
    Graphics Card(s)
    Finally! SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 12
    Monitor(s) Displays
    generic pnp monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    7.2k rpm
    1 linux ubuntu partition
    1 vista partition
    1recovery partition
    1 windows 7 partition
    1linux swap partition
    PSU
    500W, antc earthwatts EA500
    Case
    normal black case
    Cooling
    fans
    Keyboard
    saitek cyborg gaming keyboard
    Mouse
    logitech mouse (small to fit hand perfectly)
    Internet Speed
    dsl
    Other Info
    2.3 ghz amd
Katokato said:
stoneys-nutz said:
Hello Starspejd,
Here are the results of your bugcheck.

STOP 0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

Usual causes: Defective hardware, Faulty system service, Antivirus, Device driver, NTFS corruption, BIOS.

Boot into safe mode and open a command prompt.
Type sfc/scannow and press enter, let it scan, if errors are found you may need to do this more than once, until system is clean.

Until this is fixed, un-install your AV software. (don't forget to re-install after).

Defective hardware would most likely be memory, but try the scan first.

Give this a go and post your results, good luck.
Click to expand...


Sorry for intruding, but how do you figure that out without looking at the crash log?

Thanks -kelvin
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If i told you, i would have to kill you. ;)

In the first post you will see that the stop code is 0x000000050, this is the code to look for, then check the code against a list of codes and it will tell you what the most likely cause is, or at least point you in the right direction.

Here is the link to the check list i use.

BSOD Index

Hope this helps, if you need any more info just ask.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    QX9650 (black box) [email protected]
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Premium
    Memory
    8GB-4x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR 2-1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x ASUS EAH 4870 X 2 (Quad)
    Sound Card
    Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Fujitsu Siemens 22inch flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    150 Gig WD Raptor
    300 Gig Maxtor
    300 Gig Maxtor, (External)
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 1000
    Case
    CoolerMaster N-Vidia stacker 830
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12P x 1x120mm fan, 6x120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech G5
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Other Info
    Audio FX Pro 5+1 gaming head set
Great link, Stoney.

Thanks,
Ed
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Home Grown Desktop
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5B-E
    Memory
    3006 MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 512MB
    Sound Card
    Motherboard - SoundMax
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic VX2235wm / Dell 17" Generic PnP Anolog
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050 x 4294967296 colors / 1024 x 768
    Hard Drives
    3 x ST3250620AS 250GB SATA IDE
    1 x WDC WD1200JD-00GBB0 120 GB SATA IDE
    PSU
    Enerrmax 535W All-in-one SLI 20/24+6+
    Case
    Antec Sonata
    Cooling
    Antec 12cm SmartCool
    Keyboard
    Logitech LX710
    Mouse
    Logitech MX100 Laser
    Internet Speed
    Bell Canada DSL 12MBps (supposedly)
    Other Info
    2 x HP Pavilion 9700v Laptops
Your welcome, hope it helps.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    QX9650 (black box) [email protected]
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Premium
    Memory
    8GB-4x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR 2-1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x ASUS EAH 4870 X 2 (Quad)
    Sound Card
    Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Fujitsu Siemens 22inch flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    150 Gig WD Raptor
    300 Gig Maxtor
    300 Gig Maxtor, (External)
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 1000
    Case
    CoolerMaster N-Vidia stacker 830
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12P x 1x120mm fan, 6x120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech G5
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Other Info
    Audio FX Pro 5+1 gaming head set
Well, that went well *sigh*

I had my uncle out to help me yesterday, but no luck. We tried to jumb the BIOS, we tried the RAM sockets, we tried all he could think off, short of changing the power supply (since he didn't have a spare) and changing the motherboard. Sadly, we're pretty sure that's where the error has occured. On the motherboard.

For now, he's going to see if he has a spare power supply at home that fits, but for now my computer is as dead as can be. Since we're not getting anything on the monitor, we can't see what it is doing, and there's no beeping - with or without external loudspeakers.

I'm thankful for the advice I've gotten, but sadly, it doesn't seem to be helping...
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Media Center m8047.sc Desktop PC
    CPU
    Core 2 Duo E6320 (C) DC 1.86 GHz 1066 MHz front
    Motherboard
    Leonite-GL8E
    Memory
    2 GB 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 7500LE
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC 888 chipset
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