PCB Repair Advice

Hi

I shall be in a position to purchase all the required items in order to carry out motherboard repairs very shortly. The problem is that I don't know where to start! I'm guessing the best place would be to get training, but I've searched the UK web and can't seem to get much information on this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire M1201
    CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    1GB DDR RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon 2100
    Sound Card
    Unknown
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200
    PSU
    ATX 250PA
Motherboards are not normally repaired. It can be done but working with surface mounted devices can be very hard.

Google

The above google link will help with the soldering. I do know a little on electronics but am not in a professional position to give you much advice.

Look for courses in microelectronics and also basic electronics. Learn how to use a multimeter. Learn how to use the test points on a PCB.

These are just a few ideas, look on websites that specialise in these kinds of things.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I5 3570K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z77-DS3H
    Memory
    4 x 4GB corsair ballistix sport DDR3 1600 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Geforce GTX 660 TI
    Sound Card
    creative x-fi
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Primary CiBox 22" Widescreen LCD ,Secondary Dell 22" Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    Both 1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500G HD (SATA) 1 x 2TB USB
    PSU
    Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU
    Case
    Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
    Cooling
    3 x 80mm tri led front, 120mm side 120mm back, 200mm top
    Keyboard
    Logik
    Mouse
    Technika TKOPTM2
    Internet Speed
    288 / 4000
    Other Info
    Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
    Trust Graphics Tablet
Many thanks for your response! I shall look into your link and come back to you if I have any further questions.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire M1201
    CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    1GB DDR RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon 2100
    Sound Card
    Unknown
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200
    PSU
    ATX 250PA
Most motherboards are multilayered PCB which make repairs pretty much impossible, besides that it's very rare that you would be able to diagnose a fault down to component level on the mobo.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Workstation
    Manufacturer/Model
    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
    Sound Card
    Creative
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
    Drive
    PSU
    1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT
    Cooling
    Enermax Liqtech 240
    Keyboard
    Surface Ergonomic.
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Other Info
    WinTV NovaTD
    HP CP1515n Color Laser
    Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
    Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
    APC 750i Smart UPS
  • Operating System
    windows 10
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Pro 3
    CPU
    1.9GHz Intel Core i5-4300U (dual-core, 3MB cache, up to 2.9GHz with Turbo Boost)
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    12" Multi Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2160 x 144
    Hard Drives
    128GB
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    yes
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
In addition to that, most motherboards are of a multi-level design, meaning that there are several layers of track patterns. Each component is connected to one or more of these tracks. In some cases, the track(s) to which it is connected is/are inside the motherboard 'sandwich'. Expensive specialist equipment and soldering techniques are required for this, and indeed for the board as a whole, given the potential track density and the number of connections on the individual components. This is especially true with the ICs (and sockets, if used), as they can have a great many connections in a confined space (some can be less than 1mm apart).
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 r09/2013
    CPU
    Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.2GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
    Memory
    4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    OCZ Agility 3 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
    Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
    Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
    Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
    WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
    PSU
    XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
    Case
    Gigabyte IF233
    Cooling
    1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
    Mouse
    Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
    Internet Speed
    NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2)
    Other Info
    Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
    Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
    WEI Score: 8.1/8.1/8.5/8.5/8.25
    Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter)
Ok, I can see where this is going gents! Avoid like the plague!!!

It's just that I get a little frustrated. I come across a lot of laptops that have suspected GPU faults and require 'reflowing' etc etc and I would like to know how to repair these kind of common faults myself rather than employ a 3rd party.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire M1201
    CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    1GB DDR RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon 2100
    Sound Card
    Unknown
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200
    PSU
    ATX 250PA
I suspect that most of these suspected faults are not the GPU as in all my years and 100's maybe 1000's of laptops that have come across my workbench, I cant remember one with a hardware GPU issue.

All parts these days are built to be replaced and not fixed :(
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Workstation
    Manufacturer/Model
    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
    Sound Card
    Creative
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
    Drive
    PSU
    1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT
    Cooling
    Enermax Liqtech 240
    Keyboard
    Surface Ergonomic.
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Other Info
    WinTV NovaTD
    HP CP1515n Color Laser
    Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
    Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
    APC 750i Smart UPS
  • Operating System
    windows 10
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Pro 3
    CPU
    1.9GHz Intel Core i5-4300U (dual-core, 3MB cache, up to 2.9GHz with Turbo Boost)
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    12" Multi Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2160 x 144
    Hard Drives
    128GB
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    yes
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
It would appear I have a lot to learn!!....:huh:
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire M1201
    CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    1GB DDR RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon 2100
    Sound Card
    Unknown
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200
    PSU
    ATX 250PA

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Workstation
    Manufacturer/Model
    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
    Sound Card
    Creative
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
    Drive
    PSU
    1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT
    Cooling
    Enermax Liqtech 240
    Keyboard
    Surface Ergonomic.
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Other Info
    WinTV NovaTD
    HP CP1515n Color Laser
    Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
    Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
    APC 750i Smart UPS
  • Operating System
    windows 10
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Pro 3
    CPU
    1.9GHz Intel Core i5-4300U (dual-core, 3MB cache, up to 2.9GHz with Turbo Boost)
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    12" Multi Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2160 x 144
    Hard Drives
    128GB
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    yes
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
Ok, I can see where this is going gents! Avoid like the plague!!!

It's just that I get a little frustrated. I come across a lot of laptops that have suspected GPU faults and require 'reflowing' etc etc and I would like to know how to repair these kind of common faults myself rather than employ a 3rd party.

Hello!

I am pretty poor at hardware, so I hope that I don't make any huge mistakes!

As has already been mentioned, hardware is not really designed to be fixed these days. There are some who have tried it, although I suspect that none of it will ever work perfectly again, for very long, or have a very good success rate (ie completely destroy it in an attempt to fix it)

There are two (motherboard usually) problems which people do try to occasionally fix, but it really isn't worth it or viable.

1: I am not very sure myself about this one. Not inside the GPU itself, but the poor quality solder melts, and the GPU slightly prises off. Some people have brief success with some time in the oven or a hot air gun.

2: Bad caps. Some people desolder broken capacitors, get new ones of the same ratings, and put new ones in.

These really aren't worth trying.

Richard (a massive hardware noob...)
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 420
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.50GHz
    Motherboard
    Stock Dell 0TP406
    Memory
    4 gb (DDR2 800) 400MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 3870 (512 MBytes)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x Dell 2007FP and 1 x (old) Sonic flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1600 x 1200 and 1280 x 1204
    Hard Drives
    1 x 640Gb (SATA 300)
    Western Digital: WDC WD6400AAKS-75A7B0

    1 x 1Tb (SATA 600)
    Western Digital: Caviar Black, SATA 6GB/S, 64Mb cache, 8ms
    Western Digital: WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 ATA Device
    PSU
    Stock PSU - 375W
    Case
    Dell XPS 420
    Cooling
    Stock Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell Bluetooth
    Mouse
    Advent Optical ADE-WG01 (colour change light up)
    Internet Speed
    120 kb/s
    Other Info
    ASUS USB 3.0 5Gbps/SATA 6Gbps - PCI-Express Combo Controller Card (U3S6)
Thanks for all your input.....I shall take a look at crash reporting I think and give PCB repairs a very wide berth!!...again, many thanks to all of you.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire M1201
    CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    1GB DDR RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon 2100
    Sound Card
    Unknown
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200
    PSU
    ATX 250PA
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