aro 2011 vs ccleaner ? malwarebytes instead ?

JimJoe

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Resolved aro 2011 vs ccleaner ? malwarebytes instead ?

I mentioned at work someone I knew had gotten a trojan on their home cmoputer. I then said I was going to buy malwarebytes and clean their computer.

One of the other IT people told me to use aro 2011 instead.

Well, I think he misunderstood as aro 2011 is a registry cleaner. Is ccleaner better than aro 2011 ?

I'm still thinking of gettnig malwarebytes anti-malware cleaner to fix the computer. Computer cannot find the modem, popups all over the screen. Hmm. Not sure if the computer is Vista home or Win 7 home.

I haven't looked at the infected computer yet. That will happen on Saturday.

Sorry if this sounds confusing. I'm confused.
 
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    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
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    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
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    basic USB
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This is what you do
Forget regsitry cleaners
Get microsoft security essentials or another equally good anti virus, let it make a full scan and then set it for real time protection
Get the free version of malwarebytes and run a full scan

Reg cleaners do more harm than good with Vista.

After the malware is gone, maintain your computer
To maintain your computer

10 Tips on How to Properly Maintain Your Computer

Steps that I did not notice on the guide include:

Running a scan disc before doing a defrag

Using Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes.

Making System Restore points, at least once a week

Makaing a system Image once a month (varies by user)

Not relying on your A/V common sense, should prevail. You know of many sites can cause a problem.

Do not use any reg cleaning or optimizing software.

Download and use Ccleaner about once every two months. Untick any registry entries.
http://www.piriform.com/

If you follow these instructions, you will be trouble free for a long time to come.

Be sure to back up your hard drive about once a month (varies by user) and to keeep system restore points up to date.

Optimize Windows 7
 

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    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
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    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
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    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
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    640 gb
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Thanks. I'll do that to my relatives' computer tomorrow.
 

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    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
I do wish you luck Jim. Be sure to report back
 

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    Dell XPS420
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    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
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I will. Tried to give you rep, but the forum software reminded me you were the last person I had given rep to and had to give it to someone else before I could give it to you again.

So, I give you some virtual rep.
 

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    Acer Aspire X1700
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
LOL Appreciation is just a good. TY.
Forum requirement, you must rep one other before a repeat.
 

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    Dell XPS420
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    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Yup, I remember.

... after I posted below.
 

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    ASUS
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    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
Hello I agree with rich 100% on malwarebytes and leave your registry alone, registry will do more harm then good I am a prime example, before I really knew anything about the computer system and how it runs I used one for a year and when I decided not to renew and uninstalled there software it uninstalled more then it should have and the finally result was a bad system crash. I like CCleaner just don't use the registry cleaner bad karma if you know what I mean...LOL
 

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    a6530f Desktop
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    HP-PAVILION
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    M2N68-LA (Narra3)
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    8 Gigs of Ram/DDR2 PC2-6400 MB/sec
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
    Sound Card
    Intergrated Realtex ALC888S Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG W40 series widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    1 640 GB Sata transfer rating: 3.0 Gb/sec speed: 7200 RPM
    PSU
    300W
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    Mid-Size ATX
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    HP Multimedia Keyboard
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    Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000
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    Processor: AMD Phenom X3 8450 Operating speed: Up to 2.1 GHz, Number of cores: 3, Socket: AM2+, Bus speed: 3600 MHz HT3 (clocked down to 2000 MHz)

    Modem: 56K WinModem/

    Supermulti: 16X DVD(+/-)R/RW 12X Ram (+/-)R DL Lightscribe SATA Drive

    Menory Card Reader: 15-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader

    Media Drive
It did find a program listing I had uninstalled over a year ago. Wasn't listed in the registry, but the cleaner found it. That I left it remove.
 

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    Motherboard
    ASUS
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    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
Had to wait for the battery to charge. Running malware bytes free right now. Got some errors during install, but I figured it was the trojan trying to fake me out.
 

My Computer

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire X1700
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
malware quick scan results.

file: Malware.Trace

3 registry entries:

adware.180Solutions
rogue.antivirusSuite.Gen
adware.casino

Running ms essentials in safe mode to install it.
 

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    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
It is shuttting off due to overheating. Runs about half a second, then shuts off, repeat.

So I'll look up the 'take it apart' instructions and look for dust. Probably won't get to this part today.
 

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    Motherboard
    ASUS
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    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired

My Computer

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
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    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Doesn't stayup long enough to run anything... had time to run/install Malwarebytes then it wouldn't stay up.

I might get the relative an early Christmas present by getting them a laptop cooling pad with fan.

I noticed some small brown dust particles along the edges of some air vents.

Nothing appears to be clogged form the outside. Get some canned air tomorrow.
 

My Computer

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    Motherboard
    ASUS
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    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
Okay. I bought canned air to clean it.

Found the port for the CPu fan, I can hear it spin quickly when I spray.

No dust comes out.

Still runs no more than 1 second when I turn it on, shuts off, turns on for 1 second, repeat.

One of my coworkers suggested a bootblock virus.

So I have an external drive case I can put the laptop drive in, and run an anti-virus on it. I have an old laptop. I will see if the external case will work on it. I'll be installing Ubuntu on my old laptop, so I am not worried about it getting infected.

I did find Toshiba laptop 'take it apart' guides on the 'net.

I might try that, to see if the CPU's heat sink is clogged... but it doesn't seem to me that the cpu heat sink can be clogged and shutting off the laptop due to over heat. The laptop was off for 3 days, and still shuts off with less than a second of on time.

I'll post again when I learn more.
 

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    Acer Aspire X1700
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    ASUS
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    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
Any problems just ask. We will try to help
 

My Computer

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Hello when using canned air, for cleaning inside your system use it with short burts not long burts...
 

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    a6530f Desktop
    CPU
    HP-PAVILION
    Motherboard
    M2N68-LA (Narra3)
    Memory
    8 Gigs of Ram/DDR2 PC2-6400 MB/sec
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
    Sound Card
    Intergrated Realtex ALC888S Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG W40 series widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    1 640 GB Sata transfer rating: 3.0 Gb/sec speed: 7200 RPM
    PSU
    300W
    Case
    Mid-Size ATX
    Keyboard
    HP Multimedia Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000
    Other Info
    Processor: AMD Phenom X3 8450 Operating speed: Up to 2.1 GHz, Number of cores: 3, Socket: AM2+, Bus speed: 3600 MHz HT3 (clocked down to 2000 MHz)

    Modem: 56K WinModem/

    Supermulti: 16X DVD(+/-)R/RW 12X Ram (+/-)R DL Lightscribe SATA Drive

    Menory Card Reader: 15-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader

    Media Drive
Well, I didn't make the burst too long. I heard it spinning up rather quickly. So the fan sounds fine.

I'll work on it as I have time. Relatives want me to come over tomorrow, so I won't be working on it much this weekend.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire X1700
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire X1700
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
Tiny cables under the keyboard... very tiny flat cables. Not going to undo them. I can lift the plate under the keyboard up just enough to see that there is no dust around the cpu.

The web site I found left out that the 5 screws inside the battery compartment that hold the top assembly to the bottom assembly. Those have to be removed to get the top off of the laptop.

So, it looks like it might be hard drive issues. A boot block virus, bad hard drive, etc.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire X1700
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    3 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1 gig GeForce 210
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Vizio 21" tv
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 resolution
    Hard Drives
    1 terabyte sata in 1 partition
    Cooling
    fans that came with it
    Keyboard
    basic USB
    Mouse
    basic USB
    Internet Speed
    3 megabits on a cable modem, wired
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