VISTA HM. PREM. 32bit. SHUT-DOWN ISSUE

scottbach

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My computer will not shut down, not even when I hold the power button for several seconds. The only way I can shut down is to reach behind the computer and turn off the power supply switch. I have tried the power supply area, no luck, I've tried the shutdown -f -s -t0 with no luck, I have restored to an earlier date, no luck, ran virus scan (House call 32 bit) no luck! Can anyone help???
 

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If your power button doesn't work I am inclined to think that it's hardware. The wire to the power button could be loose but that shouldn't prevent windows from shutting it down. Have you tried safe mode? You can try a bootable version of Linux such as knoppix or ubuntu to further eliminate windows.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
I haven't tried any of your suggestions as of yet. What should I do in the safe mode? Simply try to shut down or is there something I should try to re-configure in the safe-mode?
 

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For now just try to shut down. If it works then there is probably a service preventing it from shutting down.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
Press Alt Cntrl and Delete at the same time. The task manager will pop up. Go to the process tab. Then one at at time shut down the process and then try to shut down the computer. You should be able to shut down and find the cause.
Be sure to check show process from all users, first.
You may want to end a few at a time to save time. Be sure you remember which ones were ended.
A Very Happy New Year to you.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
OP stated that not even the button is working when held down.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
Lets see what happens
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
If the power button is connected to the mobo as all modern computers have then what rich said may work, when you hit the power button on most computers even laptops this send a signal to shut down, if there is something causing a problem with the OS then holding the power button may not have any effect. To add to what rich has said, if any processes hang the computer when you try to shut them down then report back.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I5 3570K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z77-DS3H
    Memory
    4 x 4GB corsair ballistix sport DDR3 1600 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Geforce GTX 660 TI
    Sound Card
    creative x-fi
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Primary CiBox 22" Widescreen LCD ,Secondary Dell 22" Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    Both 1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500G HD (SATA) 1 x 2TB USB
    PSU
    Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU
    Case
    Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
    Cooling
    3 x 80mm tri led front, 120mm side 120mm back, 200mm top
    Keyboard
    Logik
    Mouse
    Technika TKOPTM2
    Internet Speed
    288 / 4000
    Other Info
    Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
    Trust Graphics Tablet
Thank you for all of the suggestions. I will be attempting to comply with them and will report back the results. Not sure I am going to attempt it right now as it is game time. HNY to all!
 

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Try creating a new user account and see how that works. Be sure that you boot before trying.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
I fear that I am defeated! I am resigned to forever turn off the computer by reaching behind and manually turning off the power supply switch.
 

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Are there any options in your BIOS for the power switch. Have a look at your mobo to see if the switch connector has become loose. Boot into the bios and try turning off from there using the power switch. Does the reset button reset the computer?
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I5 3570K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z77-DS3H
    Memory
    4 x 4GB corsair ballistix sport DDR3 1600 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Geforce GTX 660 TI
    Sound Card
    creative x-fi
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Primary CiBox 22" Widescreen LCD ,Secondary Dell 22" Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    Both 1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500G HD (SATA) 1 x 2TB USB
    PSU
    Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU
    Case
    Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
    Cooling
    3 x 80mm tri led front, 120mm side 120mm back, 200mm top
    Keyboard
    Logik
    Mouse
    Technika TKOPTM2
    Internet Speed
    288 / 4000
    Other Info
    Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
    Trust Graphics Tablet
Everything has been tried. Computer still won't shutdown without reaching behind the tower and manually turning off the power supply. Tried another user acct., checked all wire harness', tried BIOS Power settings, checked hard drive, re-installed operating system, tried shutdown.exe -f -s -t00, Nothing can cure the dreaded power dilemma!
 

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With the power on (do this at your own rick) short out the two pins on the mobo that the switch is connected to, or try a different switch. It may be as simple as the switch is broken.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I5 3570K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z77-DS3H
    Memory
    4 x 4GB corsair ballistix sport DDR3 1600 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Geforce GTX 660 TI
    Sound Card
    creative x-fi
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Primary CiBox 22" Widescreen LCD ,Secondary Dell 22" Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    Both 1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500G HD (SATA) 1 x 2TB USB
    PSU
    Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU
    Case
    Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
    Cooling
    3 x 80mm tri led front, 120mm side 120mm back, 200mm top
    Keyboard
    Logik
    Mouse
    Technika TKOPTM2
    Internet Speed
    288 / 4000
    Other Info
    Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
    Trust Graphics Tablet
The switch not working would be a definite hardware problem IF you could shut down normally by other means. In this case, it may not be the button at all. I surmise that you've clicked "Start--> Shutdown" and this didn't work, seeing as you've even gone so far as to launch "shutdown.exe" with command parameters.

The fact that you've completely formatted your hard drive and installed Windows fresh should completely eliminate any software issues. The only thing I can think of is that there is indeed a hardware fault, but not with the power button. It may be something to do with the motherboard and the circuitry involved with controlling the hardware.

Some other questions:
  • Can you put the computer into sleep mode or even hibernate mode?
  • I take it things were working fine for a long while and then this problem cropped up just recently. Can you remember ANYTHING that happened around the time the problem began? Like a power outage or some unexpected fault with the computer (like it freezing up)? Did you install any new software or additional hardware, like new memory?
  • What is your computer brand/model? Have you tried visiting the maker's website and checking for an updated BIOS?
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion dv5t
    CPU
    Intel Core Duo 2.53GHz
    Memory
    4Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GeForce 9600M GT 512Mb
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800 32bit
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 500Gb
    Hitachi Travelstar HTS543225L9A300 250Gb
    Mouse
    Microsoft 4000
The fact that you've completely formatted your hard drive and installed Windows fresh should completely eliminate any software issues. The only thing I can think of is that there is indeed a hardware fault, but not with the power button. It may be something to do with the motherboard and the circuitry involved with controlling the hardware.

I agree although it would be worth checking to ensure that the wire is snug and on correctly. As for a BIOS update not even the OP's problem would give me a desire to do one because if it goes wrong he could have nothing more than a paperweight.:confused: I am curious as to the reset switch. Also if this is a laptop perhaps there is a hot key combination that would help. Have you tried a bootable version of Linux as a further test as I suggested in my first post?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
Ahhh! Thanks, but no thanks (lol) I think I will live with simply turning off the rig manually. I don't think I would know how to "deliberately" short something out anyway. I am rather good at when I don't mean to however! Thank you to everyone who offered suggestions.

Scott
 

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^ But by using the power supply switch, you're performing an abnormal shut down. This is not good practice. Could you reply to the questions I posed? It may help shed some light on the possible cause of the problem.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion dv5t
    CPU
    Intel Core Duo 2.53GHz
    Memory
    4Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GeForce 9600M GT 512Mb
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800 32bit
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 500Gb
    Hitachi Travelstar HTS543225L9A300 250Gb
    Mouse
    Microsoft 4000
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