Should I Jump?

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jnailbell

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Hi All!

I'm soon purchasing an HP NC8430 business laptop that comes standard w/ Windows XP.

I have a legal copy of Windows Vista Ultimate both 32 bit and 64 bit.

I plan to upgrade the RAM in the laptop to 4GB and install a 7200 rpm HD.

I have checked HP's support site for this laptop and they appear to have all of the drivers for Vista 64 bit.

I do not use any esoteric hardware so other drivers are not an issue.

I use recent commercially available software for the most part (or open source).

So my question is, is there any reason I should not install Vista 64 bit?

I plan to run a virtual XP box on the laptop for anything that will absolutely not run on Vista.

Just curious.
 

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Majority of the so called "Problems" for Visa X64 are "Driver" related ( a few are software related,comparing Vista X86 with X64).

So in your case i would choose Vista X64 and since u are upgrading to 4GB ull have to use X64 to utilise full 4GB of RAM.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 @ 2.0Ghz
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 9650M GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus N80VN-X1 Laptop
    Screen Resolution
    1280 X 800
    Hard Drives
    1 X 250GB 5200 RPM
    Internet Speed
    11 MBPS
    Other Info
    XBOX 360 Controller | Vista X64 | Simpledrive 500GB
Hi jnailbell,

Welcome to the forum.

It looks like you have what you need on drivers to use the x64 Vista. I would go for it.

Enjoy,
Shawn
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
I am not so sure. Only officially supports Home Basic 32 and Business Vista. Looks like aero interface may be lacking so you are actually downgrading from xp which has mature hardware acceleration. And I hope you aren't concerned about battery life.

For the price of that 4GB upgrade ($1000 on the hp site) you could build a blazing vista desktop with directX 10 graphics etc.

I think 2008 will be the year of the vista laptop. But right now a desktop is the better way to go.

still, it sounds like an interesting experiment which you can always undo later. keep us informed.
 

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System One

  • CPU
    E8400
    Motherboard
    asus p5ql-e
    Memory
    ocz pc 1066 2x2gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    asus eah3650 silent
    Sound Card
    Edirol UA-25
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway FPD2185W
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    750g samsung
    PSU
    Zalman ZM460B 460W
    Case
    Lian Li A05 + 2 x Sythe S-FLEX SFF21D 120mm case fan
    Cooling
    Coolermaster Hyper Z600 fanless CPU cooler
    Keyboard
    Merc Stealth
    Mouse
    Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000
    Internet Speed
    DSL
Well, laptop has arrived, still waiting on extra 2GB module but able to install 3GB to get started.

Installed Seagate Momentus 160GB 7200 drive, no sweat.

Laptop posts without error and sees drive correctly.

Split drive into 3 partitions, OS, Data, Virtual Machines (I do alot of VM).

Installing OS now...
 

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System One

Good luck ;)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Workstation
    Manufacturer/Model
    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
    Sound Card
    Creative
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
    Drive
    PSU
    1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT
    Cooling
    Enermax Liqtech 240
    Keyboard
    Surface Ergonomic.
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Other Info
    WinTV NovaTD
    HP CP1515n Color Laser
    Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
    Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
    APC 750i Smart UPS
  • Operating System
    windows 10
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Pro 3
    CPU
    1.9GHz Intel Core i5-4300U (dual-core, 3MB cache, up to 2.9GHz with Turbo Boost)
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    12" Multi Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2160 x 144
    Hard Drives
    128GB
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    yes
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
So Far So Good.

OS is installed and running with no errors.

Several devices need drivers updated/installed but Aero in particular is running with the canned Vista ATI driver.

To be continued....:cool:
 

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...Still looking good.

Two devices with no drivers, Mass Storage Controller and PCI Simple Communications Controller.

Neither seems to be impacting operation. I think the MSC refers to the included SD slot which I do not use.

Installed Office 2K7 without incident.

Ran into a jam with VMWare Server 1.0.3.

All of the VM drivers installed are not digitally signed and thus will not install. VMWare Server will run but not work.

Tried grabbing the drivers from Workstation 6 which appear to be digitally signed but turned into a kluge. Gave up and installed trial of Workstation 6. Looks like I'll have to pay for the $99 upgrade from 5.5.

MS Virtual PC would likely work as a free VM but I like to run *nix guests.

Performance seems to be faster than my previous XP box (HP NX9420) but could just be the clean install. Haven't benchmarked yet for definitive numbers.
 

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Jnialbell,

If you are not using the Mass Storage Controller and PCI Simple Communucations Controller, then you can safely disable them in Device Manager. This way you will not be bothered by them wanting their drivers.

Shawn
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
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