Be careful when adding extra RAM..

dz-015

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3 weeks ago I bought an extra GB of RAM for my Shuttle Sn25P running Vista x64 - cue 3 weeks of random BSODs and strange behaviour. The 1GB DIMM that was already in the machine ( dabs.com - Kingston ValueRAM 1GB 184Pin DIMM PC3200 DDR Non-Parity CL3 (KVR400X64C3A/1G)) was bought about a year ago when I built the system. The machine runs fine with either DIMM installed in either slot but not both at once. It's the same DIMM, from the same supplier, but a different batch manufactured a year apart. I guess Vista is particularly fussy about mixing different batches of RAM. Does this sound plausible?

DZ
 

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3 weeks ago I bought an extra GB of RAM for my Shuttle Sn25P running Vista x64 - cue 3 weeks of random BSODs and strange behaviour. The 1GB DIMM that was already in the machine ( dabs.com - Kingston ValueRAM 1GB 184Pin DIMM PC3200 DDR Non-Parity CL3 (KVR400X64C3A/1G)) was bought about a year ago when I built the system. The machine runs fine with either DIMM installed in either slot but not both at once. It's the same DIMM, from the same supplier, but a different batch manufactured a year apart. I guess Vista is particularly fussy about mixing different batches of RAM. Does this sound plausible?

DZ

Hi DZ,

Welcome to the forum.

It is possible with RAM, but usually as long as it is the same type, speed, model, etc. it should work. It is hard to say since your FN25 Motherboard is proprietary (custom) and not a common type. I looked up your specs and it should support up to two 1 GIG Dual-channel DDR 400/333 RAM sticks. Here is the link I am referencing from:

http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/system/shuttle_xpc_sn25p/

Since the RAM is inexpensive, you might try buying another from the same batch and test to see if it will work. Save you receipt and the package the RAM came in, just in case it will not work either.

Shawn
 

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3 weeks ago I bought an extra GB of RAM for my Shuttle Sn25P running Vista x64 - cue 3 weeks of random BSODs and strange behaviour. The 1GB DIMM that was already in the machine ( dabs.com - Kingston ValueRAM 1GB 184Pin DIMM PC3200 DDR Non-Parity CL3 (KVR400X64C3A/1G)) was bought about a year ago when I built the system. The machine runs fine with either DIMM installed in either slot but not both at once. It's the same DIMM, from the same supplier, but a different batch manufactured a year apart. I guess Vista is particularly fussy about mixing different batches of RAM. Does this sound plausible?

DZ


Just a word of advice.

I used to buy cheap ram and save myself some money. Now I have the belief that RAM is nearly if not the most important componet of a computer. I will never go cheap on RAM again.
 

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Good RAM for Vista is even more important and Vista does push it a bit harder.

I've even had headaches with "good" RAM. I'm running two nearly identical PCs.... one with Patriot 4-4-4-12 and one with Corsair 4-4-4-12.

For Patriot I'm on my 3rd replacement set for two of the sticks... and the 3rd set didn't work correctly until a BIOS update... right now that one is finally (crosses fingers) rock solid. The Patriot RAM caused the "display driver stopped responding" error for my PC... ran good for about 3 weeks... then the error happend more and more. I thought it was either bad driver or maybe a bad graphics card... but then one day I found my PC had crashed to a BSOD and on restart the PC wouldn't even boot to BIOS, just a beep code. After some swaping of RAM sticks I found the problem.

For the Corsair... it was rock solid and never had any problems with Vista 32-bit.... even after going to the 4GB mark, no problems (minus the 32-bit limit).... but when I changed to Vista 64-bit, it took a patch provided my MS (and linked by a nice user here) to get my PC running again. Also, I should note, that the "display driver" error.... gone.


Moral of the story....

I usually only buy Corsair because I've never had any real problems with it. Due to a trusted site (sharkyextreme.com) I went with Patriot due to one of their guides.... I will never buy Patriot again. Corsair still works great and the problem I had is more an issue with Vista and certain hardware configs vs a problem with the ram itself.
 

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  • CPU
    Intel C2D e8400
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    4GB Corsair DDR2 4-4-4-12 800mhz
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    Haven't OC'd anything.... yet.
    (Laptop is a Gateway 6860FX... awesome bang for buck)
Good RAM for Vista is even more important and Vista does push it a bit harder.

I've even had headaches with "good" RAM. I'm running two nearly identical PCs.... one with Patriot 4-4-4-12 and one with Corsair 4-4-4-12.

For Patriot I'm on my 3rd replacement set for two of the sticks... and the 3rd set didn't work correctly until a BIOS update... right now that one is finally (crosses fingers) rock solid. The Patriot RAM caused the "display driver stopped responding" error for my PC... ran good for about 3 weeks... then the error happend more and more. I thought it was either bad driver or maybe a bad graphics card... but then one day I found my PC had crashed to a BSOD and on restart the PC wouldn't even boot to BIOS, just a beep code. After some swaping of RAM sticks I found the problem.

For the Corsair... it was rock solid and never had any problems with Vista 32-bit.... even after going to the 4GB mark, no problems (minus the 32-bit limit).... but when I changed to Vista 64-bit, it took a patch provided my MS (and linked by a nice user here) to get my PC running again. Also, I should note, that the "display driver" error.... gone.


Moral of the story....

I usually only buy Corsair because I've never had any real problems with it. Due to a trusted site (sharkyextreme.com) I went with Patriot due to one of their guides.... I will never buy Patriot again. Corsair still works great and the problem I had is more an issue with Vista and certain hardware configs vs a problem with the ram itself.


I myself bought Mushkin Memory because of the price and somebody told me it was just as good as Corsair. Boy were they wrong. I will never by another stick of ram other than Corsair. Its runs great with Vista.
 
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I myself bought Muskin Memory because of the price and somebody told me it was just as good as Corsair. Boy were they wrong. I will never by another stick of ram other than Corsair. Its runs great with Vista.


I agree... I hope Corsair can forgive me that I tried another product out of ignorance. :o
 

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  • CPU
    Intel C2D e8400
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    EVGA nForce 780i SLI FTW
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    4GB Corsair DDR2 4-4-4-12 800mhz
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    XFX nVidia 9800GTX+ (w/ XFX 8600GT for PhysX)
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    Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer
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    Hanns-G 22" WS LCD
    PSU
    Antec TruPower 650w
    Other Info
    Haven't OC'd anything.... yet.
    (Laptop is a Gateway 6860FX... awesome bang for buck)
i had problem with my memory from new - i was recommend to try a memory test you can download:

Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

it's a tiny program you will have to cut to disc (it runs at boot up) yet it is very, very thorough and tests the memory using different writing techniques and ultimately discovered my problems which was a replacement stick
 

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i had problem with my memory from new - i was recommend to try a memory test you can download:

Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

it's a tiny program you will have to cut to disc (it runs at boot up) yet it is very, very thorough and tests the memory using different writing techniques and ultimately discovered my problems which was a replacement stick

Hi JethroUK,

Welcome to the forum.

Vista has a built-in Memory Diagnostics Tool. I do not know if it is better or not than the one you suggested though. This tutorial will show you how to use the one in Vista if you are interested.


Shawn
 

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    17.3" UHD IPS touch
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    512 GB M.2 SSD
Vista's built in one is Pretty good but Memtest 86/86+ test is more thorough and better.
 

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    Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 @ 2.0Ghz
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    4GB
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    Asus N80VN-X1 Laptop
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    1 X 250GB 5200 RPM
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    11 MBPS
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    XBOX 360 Controller | Vista X64 | Simpledrive 500GB
Good RAM for Vista is even more important and Vista does push it a bit harder.

Moral of the story.... I went with Patriot due to one of their guides.... I will never buy Patriot again.


I fully agree with the first point you're making... but on the second one... as personal experiences vary.. the experience of the one should NOT become the gospel of the many!!

Personnally, I've had to RMA both OCZ and Corsair memory over the years... about Patriot memory, on the two PCs I built this summer, I've installed two kits of 4gigs DDR2 6400 5-5-5-12 on my PC, and one kit of 4 gigs of the same Patriot memory on my son's PC... (both machines have SYSTEM = Vista Home Premium 64-bit CPU= e6850, GPU= nvidia 8800GTS 640 megsDDR3 -one Asus, one BFG, and MOBO= Asus P5KPremium...) After assembling each one, I ran memtest overnight (8 hours +) on each machine without an error, and since July 5th, my rig has been on 16-18 hours per day, while my son's machine is on continually during his weekends here... We're both gamers and I work in desktop publishing... and we haven't had one problem, bsod, nothing! (touches wood!!)

Except for Sony, I don't like to knock down companies based on my personal experience... I will take notice of concrete evidence in terms of manufacturing and quality control processes, and some controlled benchmarks... But personal experience is just that, personal experience... a global judgment call made on a specific non-reproducible event... But I'm like you... I had always bought Antec PSUs until I had to RMA one last year... since then, I've been using Thermaltake! (And, I will never buy a Sony product again, not ever...)

vladsky
 

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    self-built
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    Intel Core2Quad Q9650 @ 3.4 GHz
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    Asus P5Q Premium
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    4 x 2 gigs Patriot DDR2 6400 5-5-5-12
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    EVGA SC GTX 280 (for graphics); Asus en8800GT (for PhysX)
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    Unicomp spacesaver (with buckling springs) hey hey!!
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    Down: 6700 kbps; Up: 800 kbps
Asky wrote:

Vista's built in one is Pretty good but Memtest 86/86+ test is more thorough and better.

__________________
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 2.7Ghz(300 X 9) | Asus P5B | 2GB Kingston Value DDR2 667 | Sapphire X1900GT | Samsung 940BW | Mushkin XP-650 PSU |XBOX 360 Controller | Vista X64 | Logitech MX310

Thank you Asky,

Shawn
 

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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    Custom
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    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
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    2560x1440
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    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
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    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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    Thermaltake Core P3
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    Corsair Hydro H115i
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    Logitech wireless K800
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
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    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
I have memory issue is where I upgraded from 2GB to 4GB. For some reason the mobo will only display 3.4GB on memory and so does windows.

All memory shows the correct size when used in pairs in each slot.

My question is: Is there a setting in the Bios that would disable any memory over 3.4GB as the specs for the mobo states it can easily do 4GB.

At present I'm currently send the vendor a email for support on it.
 

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Hi Halvare,

Do you have a integrated video chip on your motherboard? If you do, then that probably is where the 512 MB was allocated to. You can adjust the amount the video chip can use in the BIOS.

Shawn
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
Hi Halvare,

Do you have a integrated video chip on your motherboard? If you do, then that probably is where the 512 MB was allocated to. You can adjust the amount the video chip can use in the BIOS.

Shawn

Nope,
has onboard sound and network. I never buy a card with onboard GFX. Using a 8800GTX, heats my room up nice on cold nights LOL...


Halvare
 

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Nope,
has onboard sound and network. I never buy a card with onboard GFX. Using a 8800GTX, heats my room up nice on cold nights LOL...


Halvare

HAHA, I suppose it could be used as a nice space heater.


Take a look at this KB929605 article to see if applies to you.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

Shawn
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
I have memory issue is where I upgraded from 2GB to 4GB. For some reason the mobo will only display 3.4GB on memory and so does windows.

All memory shows the correct size when used in pairs in each slot.

My question is: Is there a setting in the Bios that would disable any memory over 3.4GB as the specs for the mobo states it can easily do 4GB.

At present I'm currently send the vendor a email for support on it.


If you're running Vista 32bit that might be why it's only displaying 3.4 in Windows... as for the BIOS you may need to update your BIOS to the latest version to unlock the remaining RAM. Also, there may be a jumper or switch setting on the motherboard itself that will enable/disable large amounts of RAM.
 

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System One

  • CPU
    Intel C2D e8400
    Motherboard
    EVGA nForce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    4GB Corsair DDR2 4-4-4-12 800mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX nVidia 9800GTX+ (w/ XFX 8600GT for PhysX)
    Sound Card
    Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hanns-G 22" WS LCD
    PSU
    Antec TruPower 650w
    Other Info
    Haven't OC'd anything.... yet.
    (Laptop is a Gateway 6860FX... awesome bang for buck)
I fully agree with the first point you're making... but on the second one... as personal experiences vary.. the experience of the one should NOT become the gospel of the many!!

vladsky

I agree with you. People should buy and use any product they want. I'm not trying to sway anyone from buying Patriot RAM or any other brand. I was just giving my opinion and my recent problems with Patriot RAM. When dealing with something like RAM I know it's a subjective experience and problems may be repeated for some while others have no problems at all.

With that said, when you look at the reviews and other message boards, a brand like Corsair consistantly stays at the top of hassle free RAM while other brands rotate around. Corsair is not perfect but to dismiss all the years of reviews and found quality in that company and their products wouldn't be wise either.

Buy what you can afford and keep what works... and that works for many things.

TK.
 

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System One

  • CPU
    Intel C2D e8400
    Motherboard
    EVGA nForce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    4GB Corsair DDR2 4-4-4-12 800mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX nVidia 9800GTX+ (w/ XFX 8600GT for PhysX)
    Sound Card
    Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hanns-G 22" WS LCD
    PSU
    Antec TruPower 650w
    Other Info
    Haven't OC'd anything.... yet.
    (Laptop is a Gateway 6860FX... awesome bang for buck)
If you're running Vista 32bit that might be why it's only displaying 3.4 in Windows... as for the BIOS you may need to update your BIOS to the latest version to unlock the remaining RAM. Also, there may be a jumper or switch setting on the motherboard itself that will enable/disable large amounts of RAM.

It has been updated to the latest version, that was the 1st thing I did but still shows only 3.4GB :(


Hal
 

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It has been updated to the latest version, that was the 1st thing I did but still shows only 3.4GB :(
Hal


Is the Memory Remapping option enabled in BIOS?

I have Asus MB. When I built the computer and first installed Vista, I did not had good graphics card, because ATI HD2600 cards that I decided to buy, were not available. So I put an old ATI Rage PCI 4MB card into my computer. My computer then recognized only 3.4 GB of RAM even if memory remap was activated. As soon as I bought my HD2600XT, full 4 GB are available.
 

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