Gpu help!

alphecca

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ok, lets see if i can say wht im thinking

i currently have a ATI RADEON HD 4650, graphics card in my laptop.

i have run the most resourse hugging games for hours and heat hasnt yet been reli an issue.

if i wanted to upgrade to say a 4800 series card, could i just switch them over and instal new drivers?

or do u think it will cause it to over heat being a laptop?

and will the output of these cards be too much for my system to handle, therefor limiting the amount of data they can proces, therefor no point in me getting it?

i have a brand new dv7t pavilion.

if you need any more information or clarification of my question just ask.

thanks!
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP DV7T PAVILION
    CPU
    dual 2.66GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 3624
    Memory
    4GB DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI RADEON HD 4650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" HD
    Screen Resolution
    19,6
    Hard Drives
    500GB 7200RPM SATA
i'm sorry but i don't think you can upgrade your laptop graphics
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer, Aspire M1201\Custom Build
    CPU
    AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard
    Memory
    2x2gb Patriot Viper DDR2 PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel SLI Edition (4-4-4-12)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" Acer X223 Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    1680 X 1050
    Hard Drives
    320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
    500gb Seagate SATA II
    1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium)
    PSU
    ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular
    Case
    NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans
    Cooling
    1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm On GPU
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Sidewinder X6
    Mouse
    Microsoft Sidewinder X5
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    6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up
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    AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
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If it's an integrated chip on the motherboard, the only way to upgrade to a faster card would be a new mobo...

If it's an add-in card, you would still have to dis-assemble the laptop to change it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0
how can i find out weather its intergrated or add in? diassembling the laptop cant be to hard can it... few screews, make sure im not covered in static before i start, im sure theres more to it and could get someone to do it for me i think.

but in any event is there a way i can find out weather i can change it?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP DV7T PAVILION
    CPU
    dual 2.66GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 3624
    Memory
    4GB DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI RADEON HD 4650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" HD
    Screen Resolution
    19,6
    Hard Drives
    500GB 7200RPM SATA
Unfortunately it looks like the DV7t has an integrated chip and the chip that you have is the 'top of the line' for that model.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0
ah ok, so its all over as regards to ever upgrading it correct? its a new motherboard if i want to right?

also do u know much about RAM?

i know there is DDR3 ram becoming standard, espesh in the high end laptops and mac's.

and i know DDR3 cant fit on DDR2 slots, (shame) but can i increase the performance of the ram by getting one with a higher frequency? currently its at 400Mega Hz, would 800Mhz be better and if so how?


also when buying ram, are all laptop ram slots the same size and so the ram purchesed work in any laptop. or do they differ?

also i love you ATI crosfire! :-D, thats wht i was thinking i might be able to do lol nvm..... alianware i think do them for laptops...
 
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My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP DV7T PAVILION
    CPU
    dual 2.66GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 3624
    Memory
    4GB DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI RADEON HD 4650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" HD
    Screen Resolution
    19,6
    Hard Drives
    500GB 7200RPM SATA
hm the only difference in latptop memory is ddr, ddr2, and ddr3
sizewise if its laptop ddr2 memory it will fit and the might help some depends on your mobo restrictions
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer, Aspire M1201\Custom Build
    CPU
    AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard
    Memory
    2x2gb Patriot Viper DDR2 PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel SLI Edition (4-4-4-12)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" Acer X223 Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    1680 X 1050
    Hard Drives
    320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
    500gb Seagate SATA II
    1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium)
    PSU
    ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular
    Case
    NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans
    Cooling
    1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm On GPU
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Sidewinder X6
    Mouse
    Microsoft Sidewinder X5
    Internet Speed
    6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up
    Other Info
    AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
    Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound
Your mobo should support:

800mhz

DDR2 PC6400 200pin modules.

However some specs claim it only supports 667mhz. If that's actually the case, 800mhz still fits and will downclock to 667mhz. Any DDR2 200 pin laptop RAM will fit.

I'd double check with CPU-Z SPD tab that the ram you already have isn't already PC6400.

CPU-Z:
CPUID

cpuz.JPG

If your RAM is actually 400mhz, then CPU-Z will show that as 200mhz. If it shows 400mhz, then it's already DDR2 6400 800mhz.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0
hay, here is a picture of my CPU-Z screen shot

RAM.jpg

i have 2 slots both the same
what do u think?
so why does it say 400 but mean 800?

thank you very much smarteyeball lol, nice name, uv been of great help :-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP DV7T PAVILION
    CPU
    dual 2.66GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 3624
    Memory
    4GB DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI RADEON HD 4650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" HD
    Screen Resolution
    19,6
    Hard Drives
    500GB 7200RPM SATA
lol, thanks and your welcome :)

DDR = Double Data Rate,where RAM transfers data twice per clock cycle. So x2 400mhz =800mhz. 400mhz is the RAMs clock frequency and 800mhz is the transfer frequency. Apps like Cpu-z report the clock frequency.

Both slots the same just means you have two identical 2GB sticks physically installed in your laptops Dimm slots giving you 4GB total.

So the good news is you don't have to buy more RAM ;)

The bad news is you've essentially hit an "upgrade wall" and can't really do anything upgrade wise :(

You could possibly swap that existing RAM for some lower latency ddr2 800, but it's unlikely you would notice any real difference in normal usgae. (Lower latency=quicker data transfer. Your current latency is 6-6-6-18 as seen in the cpu-z screenshot)
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0
so how much did your system cost u!? the Intel Q9550 @ 3.8ghz alone musta been in the 1000s?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP DV7T PAVILION
    CPU
    dual 2.66GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 3624
    Memory
    4GB DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI RADEON HD 4650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" HD
    Screen Resolution
    19,6
    Hard Drives
    500GB 7200RPM SATA
I built it largely bit by bit so I refuse to add the total up :) I don't want to know :p It's probably around the 3K mark with all the bits and pieces. That's also in Australian dollars which is why it cost so much :rolleyes:

The chip itself was only $500 AUS when I bought it. It's 2.8ghz at stock speeds, so that extra 1ghz is free ;)
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0
AWW, man thats awesome!

oo what? so youv overclocked it?! doesnt that harm the proccesor? im guessing i cant do that on mine?

or have you done something else to it? can i do that?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP DV7T PAVILION
    CPU
    dual 2.66GHz
    Motherboard
    Quanta 3624
    Memory
    4GB DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI RADEON HD 4650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" HD
    Screen Resolution
    19,6
    Hard Drives
    500GB 7200RPM SATA
Yep, it's overclocked ;) Since I'm not exceeding voltages etc and have good cooling on the CPU and in the case, it's 'safe'. (there is always a risk involved with overclocking)

Unfortunately laptops and overclocking are a bad idea. Normally the BIOS is 'locked down' (all the options you need to adjust aren't available). There are software apps that let you overclock but are less reliable than changing settings in BIOS.

The main reason overclocking on a laptop is a bad idea is heat. The two biggest component killers are excessive voltages and heat. Overclocking produces substantially more heat than normal and laptops are pretty warm to begin with. Without adequate cooling it would kill your CPU :(
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0
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