Printing to HP networked printer

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lyteroptes

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I have 2 Vista Home Premium PC's. I've added a networked HP PSC 750 printer to both - it's actually connected to an XP Home PC. No prints from Vista ever appear - not even the test page. They show up in the local spooler window but not on the 'print server'. No error messsage are shown but the other odd thing is that the 'Printing Preferences' window (on the Vista PC's) just shows for fraction of a second and then disppears.

I dont' seem to be able to update the drivers - the HP website says that they are already installed under Vista and there is nothing I can download.

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Are you sharing the printer out from the XP machine, or is the printer physically attached to the network directly? I have 2 printers attached directly to the network, and in Vista, I have to add, not a *network* printer, but a local printer with a new port, changing it from :LPT1 to TCP/IP, entering the IP address of the printers - from there it is a matter of Vista searching for the printers, finding them, and setting them up on its own.
 

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File and Print sharing enabled. Make sure your Windows firewall allows file and print sharing on the subnet. Make sure the printer is shared and give it a name. You should then just use port \\workstation_name\printer_name .
 

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Do you think that the fact (mentioned above) that the XP PCs can print to this printer is a good sign in terms of the factors you mentioned? From Vista the printer has been added as a networked printer and it shows the correct printer properties - all looking good I'd have thought.

No Windows firewall in use either, I have my own.
 

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I used to use Ghostwall instead of Windows firewall. I am a CCNA and use Cisco routers and firewalls. I am used to port assignments and firewall rules. On the corporate network, the firewalls are network level. No server or workstation has its own firewall. At home, I use Windows firewall and a Dlink router that is properly configured.

If you use a 3rd party firewall directly on those computers and servers, you need to allow security and traffic to work for services. This is why Windows firewall is easier.

The printer is on XP. It is local. It can print. So the printer works with that computer. That is all. Is the printer configured for sharing in the printer folder. Did you assign everyone to print from that printer? Is file and print services enabled and its security allowed so everyone on your subnet can print to it? I setup a common administrator level user on each computer at home. It is not the administrator. It does belong to administrator group. This account will be used in the shares to communicate for printer.

On the Vista computers. Go to networking. Can you see all the computers on your network in Vista? Can you see that XP workstation the printer is on? Can you see the shared printer folder under it.
 

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I don't use Windows firewall as I have a firewall on the router and it's way easier and more efficient than any software firewalls on the PCs themselves.

The printer is on XP and it is local to that printer but that certainly is not all - other networked XP PCs can print to it because it is shared and no software firewalls are getting in the way. The printer is visible to Vista, both Vistas PCs have connected to it and added it as a printer, the correct printer properties are displayed.

If I print from Vista there are NO error messages - it spools locally but does not appear on the XP PC.
 

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Did you try the printer directly connected on your Vista computer.
With regards to the drivers, yes they are included in Vista.
 

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Delete the current printer you have in Vista, then start fresh adding the printer - Add network printer, search for the printer, find the machine it is attached to, etc. and then *do the test page*.

Also, Can you open Windows Explorer and type the \\{machinename} and view the shared items on that machine? Can you see the machine in your Network configuration / Network places?
 

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    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
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    The Beast Model V (homebrew)
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    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
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    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
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    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
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    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
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    2 * 1920 x 1080
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    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
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    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
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    Lenovo
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    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
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    Lenovo
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
What does the port assignment for the printer on the remote workstation look like?

\\printer_workstation_name\name_of_the_printer

Did you set up the shared permissions so everyone can print to it?

If you browse to that workstation in Explorer can you see the printer in the printer folder?
 

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No, I haven't tried that. If it was physically easy to do so then I'd surely give it a go but it's right royal PiTA to do it. Could it really be worth it?
 

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lyteroptes said:
No, I haven't tried that. If it was physically easy to do so then I'd surely give it a go but it's right royal PiTA to do it. Could it really be worth it?
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Thats really easy and worth it when it gets your printer working...

Steven
 

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johngalt said:
Delete the current printer you have in Vista, then start fresh adding the printer - Add network printer, search for the printer, find the machine it is attached to, etc. and then *do the test page*.

Also, Can you open Windows Explorer and type the \\{machinename} and view the shared items on that machine? Can you see the machine in your Network configuration / Network places?
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Thanks

Yes, all of the above have been done. It all works exactly as expected with the exception of the 'test page' - it never appears in the spooler on the PC connected to the printer and, of course, doesn't print.

dmex said:
Thats really easy and worth it when it gets your printer working...

Steven
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The printer does work where it is and other non-Vista PCs can print to it. I have no reason to doubt that a locally connected printer would, indeed, work but I don't think it gets me very far in what I want to acheive. The Vista PCs are both media centres in living rooms so, even if the locally connected printer worked (both locally and shared) the printer could not be left there.

I think I'd be better trying a different make of printer if I had access to one in case it's something weird with HP.
 

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Right - had exactly the same problem. Solved it like this. Add a printer, but when it gives you the option of network or local, choose LOCAL, and add a new port using the location of the printer hanging off the xp machine like this. my xp machine is called server2, so the path is entered as \\server2\psc750 This will work straight away. as to why? no idea at all! like you pressing print before flashed the job for a second in the print queue before vanishing. paul
 

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