OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Family~

iDash

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Cell Phone Internet Pricing-------> Its Starts this October, 250 GB Limit per Home
Its Just the Start, and Comcast SUX.
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Like watching Legal TV on the internet instead of Cable,
Have a big Family with 5 Computers running its a Total Usage for ALL!
IF your a Parent of Three Kids Dont think You will be Cut OFF Think again.
Have a Sligbox/ Location free Player,
Dowload Legal Movies-Net Flix, Blockbuster, etc.
HD Movie is currently 8+ GB Each and Rising,
Like Legal Game Download Systems-Steam, EA , D2D- I am Downloading 16 gb of Games tommorrow,
Have a Wii, PS2, PS3 connection for onlie gaming it adds up,
ETC- The internet just hit a Speed Bump- the Future Technology of the internet in the US is at Stake!

SOL- Comcast doesnt get Paid for it,
Is there a need for the extra 60-100 cable TV bill?
Right Now, No.

ABC, FOX, Comedy Channel, History Channel, etc, is all online,
The only reason right now to have Cable is for Sports Fanatics for live Sports-
the Rest is on the Net!v

Drop the ******* Monoploy Cable/Internat Company now!

They dont want to upgrade their Crappy Limited Cable Line and

They just want to take it out on my Big Family who Watches everything online and Plays games on the PC,

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Comcast has confirmed that all residential customers will be subject to a 250 gigabyte per month data limit starting October 1.

PC MAG Article http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2329170,00.asp
"This is the same system we have in place today," Comcast wrote in an amendment to its acceptable use policy. "The only difference is that we will now provide a limit by which a customer may be contacted."

The cable provider insisted that 250 GB is "an extremely large amount of data, much more than a typical residential customer uses on a monthly basis."

To run afoul of these limits, Comcast said, customers would have to do one of the following: send 50 million e-mails; download 62,500 songs; download 125 standard-definition movies; or upload 25,000 high-resolution digital photos.

Comcast came under fire last year for cutting off service to customers who consumed a large amount of bandwidth but refusing to provide those customers with information on how much bandwidth they were able to use.

"As part of our pre-existing policy, we will continue to contact the top users of our high-speed Internet service and ask them to curb their usage," Comcast said Thursday.

"If a customer uses more than 250 GB and is one of the top users of our service, he or she may be contacted by Comcast to notify them of excessive use," according to the AUP. "At that time, we'll tell them exactly how much data per month they had used. We know from experience the vast majority of customers we ask to curb usage do so voluntarily."

Late last year, the Associated Press and the Electronic Frontier Foundation accused Comcast of blocking access to certain file-sharing Web sites, a complaint that eventually led the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to approve an enforcement action against Comcast that requires it to be more transparent about its network management policy by year's end.

Comcast admitted to delaying P2P traffic during peak times but denied ever blocking access to any site. Prior to the FCC enforcement action, Comcast reached agreements with BitTorrent, Pando Networks, and Vonage under which the cable company would develop a protocol agnostic network management policy by year's end and come up with a P2P bill of rights.

The company confirmed in May that it was considering a 250 GB bandwidth cap, and started testing that system in several markets. Earlier this month, a spokesman said that those tests suggested that bandwidth hogs might encounter delays of up to 20 minutes during peak traffic times.

To publicize the change, Comcast will run banner notices on its Comcast.net home page and security channel Web site, update the FAQ in its help section, and include an insert in an upcoming billing statement.

Washington-based interest group Free Press, which filed the complaint against Comcast with the FCC, said it remained concerned about how a cap helps solve Comcast's congestion problems or how it will work with other usage limits under consideration the company is considering.

"Though the proposed cap is relatively high, it will increasingly ensnare more users as technology continues its natural progression," S. Derek Turner, research director of Free Press, said in a statement. "If Comcast has oversold their network to the point of creating congestion problems, then well-disclosed caps for Internet use are a better short-term solution than Comcast's current practice of illegally blocking Internet traffic."

Turner said the move highlights why the U.S. needs more "genuine broadband competition."


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250 Gb is such a Huge limit though, you say,
Just hooked up one of my PCs with a Bandwidth Meter Program,
ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter

My PC, we have 5 Total- not including Wii, PS2, PSP, Location Free tv, Internet Cell Phones, ETC,

In one week it is at 83 GB ,
with a Download Tom. of 16+Gb for the New Crysis Warhead direct download to the PC from the Company,

Technology ++++
No trip to the Store Needed.

Like paying higher prices for limited Bandwidth and Slower Connection,

Drop Comcast, It will be a Better world without there crappy cable line thats always Fuzzy anyway!


The Verizon Fiber-optic FiOs System will be here shortly, its a wire that is made for the Future.



Comcast --- Competition

1. Verizon 's Fiber-optic FiOs -The Killer to the Comcast Connection

-Cheaper, Faster,and it made for Technology advances with the internet to Takes us into the Future~

-Verizon FiOS Internet Service is the fastest and most powerful connection we've ever offered. With FiOS, you have the choice of several packages to meet your needs. We offer downstream connection speeds (the speed that data is transmitted to your computer) ranging from up to 10 Mbps all the way up to 50 Mbps. We offer upstream speeds up to 20 Mbps in some locations.Comcast to Cap Data Transfers at 250 GB in Oct.

The Verizon Fiber-optic FiOs System will be here shortly, its a wire that is made for the Future.
Verizon Internet

2. AT@T

3. AT&T Ultra Speed -60 Bucks -Internet even when Cable is Out!- Storm Coming

4. Time Warner

5.?

If U have a internet Connection other than Comcast please post- Plan and rates!


Fire Comcast Today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

LOL... I feel you bro.... but there is only so much bandwidth and 250G is plenty...we'd all like to do what ever we want but we have to share the band width and the infrastructure.

It's call fair access...it's reasonable ... and your an exception with 5 gaming computers.....

too bad so sad
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

iDash,

You are being completely unreasonable. Do you think bandwidth is free??? If a Comcast customer uses 250GB of data transfer per month, I guarantee Comcast loses money on that customer.

Be glad that all the ISP's don't use a "pay for what you use" billing model.

S-
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

I agree with iDash, that sucks 250gig just isnt enough.
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

z3r010,

You can agree with iDash all you want. But that doesn't change the fact that bandwidth isn't free. The billing model used today by most ISP's counts on the fact that customers do not use a significant amount of bandwidth. The cost and availability of bandwidth is not keeping up with the rise in bandwidth usage so something has got to give. More and more ISP's will have to put a cap on usage or come up with billing models that charge customers for the bandwidth they actually use.

250GB per month is a reasonable compromise to charging for actual usage. But that compromise will only work for so long if bandwidth usage continues to rise at the rate that it has. The "Unlimited" model can't work unless something significant changes.

S-
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

ISP's should come out with a plan modelled around current cell phone plans. Base plan would be for example 100 gigs per month and you pay for each step up 200 gigs, 300 gigs, 500 gigs, unlimited etc. And instead of having different tiers of speed only offer one speed for all comers. I have 500 minutes on my cell phone, but it's way more than I ever use in probably two months time. Internet is different though (for me anyway). I don't think I use 250 gigs a month, but I don't want to be capped if I do. Offer me a plan that I can download as much as I need instead of capping or cutting me off at an arbitrary limit. I ditched Comcast in January (FTW!) and don't plan on ever going back and I'm looking forward to FiOS as soon as it's available in my area because this DSL just doesn't cut it. :(
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

:cry: ...well for you guys that are lamenting over a measly 250gig a month there are some of us that are happy just getting to the internet via satellite connection.

We actually have a fair access policy so that all can enjoy a reasonable amount of traffic. We have to SHARE this bandwidth and the threshold is down in the 20 gig / month range... your 250 gig limit and still whining is hilarious to me....haha.

Consider yourself lucky you don't live in the middle of Bum-****-Egypt (military term) and have to settle for satellite at 250KB/s... :shock:
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

Allowing this kind of regulation only leads to more regulations. One of the Biggest problems with this kind of thing is just that it will lead to more and more regulation. You think your bandwidth is free, then the next claim will be you think your right to view anything is free or your right to do this or that. The bottom line is these internet providers are out of touch with what an average FAMILY uses for internet usage.

Think of this, the average gamer can download Gigs of data a month in updates without blinking an eye but then won't be able to use the internet they are paying a re-occuring charge for because of a bandwidth limit cap. These ISP's are using the excuse of P2P people to institute this kind of limit because they don't want to flip the bill to expand their own networks. The P2P users are the minority of most ISP's and they are punishing the Majority with these limits.

So far my ISP has not stated if they are going to do bandwidth limits, but they are doing a test group in a specific state but I have yet to see the results. What we will probably see is one group of ISPs go this route and then we will see ISPs NOT going this route to cause direct competition. And that is actually good in one respect but if we do NOT see that then we are all in for a problem. These ISPs have been reaping the benefits of users that don't use much bandwidth and taking in that profit without reinvesting that into their own networks. Why should we as the consumer pay for the expansion of their networks, these companies need to invest in themselves before we the consumer should have to suffer for their poor investment planning.

FYI - a little background on me, I work at a national ISP who has NO plans on putting out a bandwidth limit and our network growth is perfectly fine.
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

Element,

I don't know what you do for your "national ISP", but your "regulation" argument makes no sense. How does limiting excessive bandwidth usage relate to the right to view what you want?? These are totally different issues.

The bottom line is that bandwidth costs money. ISP's setup "unlimited" accounts anticipating that some customers will use way more than their share but most will use a lot less. So the usage patterns balance out and the economic model works for the ISP. But, if an ISP's customers start using more and more bandwidth and the customers that use less bandwidth don't balance out the customers that use a lot more, something has to give. Does the ISP raise the price for all customers to pay the extra bandwidth that only a few use? Or do they put a limit in place that will never be reached by the average customer?

A company exists to make money. This infrastructure investment you talk about is funded by customers.
Why should we as the consumer pay for the expansion of their networks? Because that is how business works.

S-
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

How does my argument work? Think of it this way, if they are allowed to regulate your amount of bandwidth what is next? Will they limit what you can download and/or where you can download from? Again OPEN your EYES!

I never said bandwidth was free, but I did say that consumers should not be flipping the bill for a ISP to do major network infrastructure rework, which is what they are GOING to be doing to you and other customers. There are some ISPs that are proposing a 5gig limit a month, now honestly can you tell me you use less than 5gig a month? Hell my 5yr old webserver package has a 50gig a month transfer allowance.

So think about this, comcast while not the "devil" in the market with the first bandwidth limit but they are the largest proposed cap. I have researched Numerous providers in the US and most are WAY below the comcast cap which can be easily exceeded by a simple internet gamer.

I am not defending nor condemning comcast for this bandwidth cap, I am simply saying we should be carefull what large scale companies like this one are allowed to get away with regulation wise as it can and will lead to more than just other companies using bandwidth limits.
 

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

Element said:
How does my argument work? Think of it this way, if they are allowed to regulate your amount of bandwidth what is next? Will they limit what you can download and/or where you can download from? Again OPEN your EYES!

Limiting bandwidth is a business decision. Dictating what a customer can and can't download is a completely different issue. There is no point in discussing this if you don't understand the difference. There will never be regulations that prevent ISP's from limiting bandwidth...at least not as long as bandwidth costs the ISP money.

Element said:
I never said bandwidth was free, but I did say that consumers should not be flipping the bill for a ISP to do major network infrastructure rework, which is what they are GOING to be doing to you and other customers. There are some ISPs that are proposing a 5gig limit a month, now honestly can you tell me you use less than 5gig a month? Hell my 5yr old webserver package has a 50gig a month transfer allowance.

So think about this, comcast while not the "devil" in the market with the first bandwidth limit but they are the largest proposed cap. I have researched Numerous providers in the US and most are WAY below the comcast cap which can be easily exceeded by a simple internet gamer.

Do you understand how business works??? Customers foot the bill for everything.

Companies that limit bandwidth unrealistically will lose business. That's how a free market economy works. But the way things are going, bandwidth limits are going to be much more common in the future. Again, the average customer is not the problem. It's the customer that uses way more than what his monthly fee pays for that is the problem.

Element said:
I am not defending nor condemning comcast for this bandwidth cap, I am simply saying we should be carefull what large scale companies like this one are allowed to get away with regulation wise as it can and will lead to more than just other companies using bandwidth limits.

Comcast's limit is completely reasonable. This thread was about condemning Comcast and that is bogus if you understand the facts.

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Re: OCTOBER- Comcast Internet Service to Cap Data Transfers at Home 250 GB=Whole Fam

Limiting bandwidth is a business decision. Dictating what a customer can and can't download is a completely different issue. There is no point in discussing this if you don't understand the difference. There will never be regulations that prevent ISP's from limiting bandwidth...at least not as long as bandwidth costs the ISP money.

Funny I guess you missed it where comcast did just that, they directly BLOCKED P2P transfers over their network. So again, tell me how this isn't or can't lead to these companies blocking what you can or can't do with your internet.


Do you understand how business works??? Customers foot the bill for everything.

Companies that limit bandwidth unrealistically will lose business. That's how a free market economy works. But the way things are going, bandwidth limits are going to be much more common in the future. Again, the average customer is not the problem. It's the customer that uses way more than what his monthly fee pays for that is the problem.

Yes I understand how business works, but the problem with your argument here is you think that a business just makes up things raises costs then builds. No, a business will expand or grow and then have done the research to see if the customer base can and will accept a price increase and if not, will the churn justify the means for the companies growth. And despite what you think is going to happen, the average user will be punished by some of these companies small bandwidth limits, read the quote from Time Warner Below.

Time Warner Cable is currently running a trial where users are capped between 5-40GB, then charged $1 for every additional gigabyte. Given that's a 1,000-1,500% markup over the price Time Warner Cable pays for bandwidth, and such low caps would help Time Warner Cable strangle competing video options that threaten their cableTV revenues, it's no wonder that Britt's personal crystal ball tells him that metered billing is inevitable.


Like I said I am not condemning comcast, I am merely making points in reference to the issue this topic is about.
 

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