internal vs. external ethernet

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Is there any speed difference or anything that i can get with a external (PCI) ethernet card then a internal ethernet?

Im asking about this because im thinking of getting a Killer Nic M1 but not entirely sure if i should get it or not.
 

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What do you have now? Is it Fast Ethernet or Gigabit Ethernet or what?
Post some specs.
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion m9515y
    CPU
    Phenom X4 9850
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Some Radeon Cheapie with 512 MB Ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    750 GB SATA 3G
    2 SIIG Superspeed docks w/WD Caviar Black Sata II or III
I'm not familiar with game specialized stuff like the card you reference. You can get a Gigabit network card for < $30. How much throughput you actually get will depend on your system. For a network card it seems kind of steep. A few hundred bucks more and you can buy a PC tower with > 4 GB ram with gigabit networking built in. You may want to ask around on some gaming specialty sites what kind of performance you can get with your system and that card.

All I can tell you is my old PC with 2 GB ram had Fast Ethernet built in. I bought a Gigabit network card for it. Typically I can copy large files from that machine to my new PC with 8 GB ram and built-in gigabit networking at a stead 40 MB/sec. The same big video file in the other direction(sent by the newer faster PC) initially shows > 100 MB/sec then tapers off at 60 to 80 MB/sec. What I'm saying is, all other things being equal, the faster machine will be able to send faster. The slow machine can still receive at a good clip.

Before shelling out that kind of cash I'd definitely ask around on gaming sites. Of course if the card is a great card you should be able to put it in a newer PC when you buy one. So it may be an ok investment. But generally buying big hw upgrades for an older PC isn't a great idea unless you built the thing custom with the most advanced components in the first place. PC speeds and capacities advance so fast, that it's often cheaper and more reliable just to buy what you need already together. Unless you enjoy building the units.. nothing wrong with that hobby. But I'd take a wild guess any $30 gigabit card that's not defective would probably at least triple the throughput you get now. Unless you have a super screaming PC it's not likely to be an order of magnitude faster like 10 to 100 Mb/sec was.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion m9515y
    CPU
    Phenom X4 9850
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Some Radeon Cheapie with 512 MB Ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    750 GB SATA 3G
    2 SIIG Superspeed docks w/WD Caviar Black Sata II or III
MilesAhead said:
I'm not familiar with game specialized stuff like the card you reference. You can get a Gigabit network card for < $30. How much throughput you actually get will depend on your system. For a network card it seems kind of steep. A few hundred bucks more and you can buy a PC tower with > 4 GB ram with gigabit networking built in. You may want to ask around on some gaming specialty sites what kind of performance you can get with your system and that card.

All I can tell you is my old PC with 2 GB ram had Fast Ethernet built in. I bought a Gigabit network card for it. Typically I can copy large files from that machine to my new PC with 8 GB ram and built-in gigabit networking at a stead 40 MB/sec. The same big video file in the other direction(sent by the newer faster PC) initially shows > 100 MB/sec then tapers off at 60 to 80 MB/sec. What I'm saying is, all other things being equal, the faster machine will be able to send faster. The slow machine can still receive at a good clip.

Before shelling out that kind of cash I'd definitely ask around on gaming sites. Of course if the card is a great card you should be able to put it in a newer PC when you buy one. So it may be an ok investment. But generally buying big hw upgrades for an older PC isn't a great idea unless you built the thing custom with the most advanced components in the first place. PC speeds and capacities advance so fast, that it's often cheaper and more reliable just to buy what you need already together. Unless you enjoy building the units.. nothing wrong with that hobby. But I'd take a wild guess any $30 gigabit card that's not defective would probably at least triple the throughput you get now. Unless you have a super screaming PC it's not likely to be an order of magnitude faster like 10 to 100 Mb/sec was.
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alright thanks for your reply. i think im better off buying a new computer from ibuypower.com or something.

thanks for the help :)
 

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MilesAhead said:
I'm not familiar with game specialized stuff like the card you reference. You can get a Gigabit network card for < $30. How much throughput you actually get will depend on your system. For a network card it seems kind of steep. A few hundred bucks more and you can buy a PC tower with > 4 GB ram with gigabit networking built in. You may want to ask around on some gaming specialty sites what kind of performance you can get with your system and that card.

All I can tell you is my old PC with 2 GB ram had Fast Ethernet built in. I bought a Gigabit network card for it. Typically I can copy large files from that machine to my new PC with 8 GB ram and built-in gigabit networking at a stead 40 MB/sec. The same big video file in the other direction(sent by the newer faster PC) initially shows > 100 MB/sec then tapers off at 60 to 80 MB/sec. What I'm saying is, all other things being equal, the faster machine will be able to send faster. The slow machine can still receive at a good clip.

Before shelling out that kind of cash I'd definitely ask around on gaming sites. Of course if the card is a great card you should be able to put it in a newer PC when you buy one. So it may be an ok investment. But generally buying big hw upgrades for an older PC isn't a great idea unless you built the thing custom with the most advanced components in the first place. PC speeds and capacities advance so fast, that it's often cheaper and more reliable just to buy what you need already together. Unless you enjoy building the units.. nothing wrong with that hobby. But I'd take a wild guess any $30 gigabit card that's not defective would probably at least triple the throughput you get now. Unless you have a super screaming PC it's not likely to be an order of magnitude faster like 10 to 100 Mb/sec was.
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Seconded.

To the OP: the purchase of that NIC for home-internet gaming reasons is misguided for several reasons...

The bottleneck is the link speed to the ISP, not the ability of the hardware to calculate packet details.

Many games rely on UDP packets to exchange data (less overhead) rather than TCP. Hence, the NIC's ability to do TOE (TCP offload engine, a.k.a. "chimney") is going to be useless in that context.

There's simply not that much data being sent in the gaming scenario. First-person-shooters will send a packet or two every time something changes, but that's a tiny amount of traffic in relative terms.

It would be different if you had two servers hooked up via a LAN and their primary purpose in life was to exchange vast amounts of data via their gigabit NICs. In that case, the ability to do TOE and other trickery (receive-side scaling, NetDMA, interrupt distribution) can make a huge difference to the throughput and the processor utilisation on both systems.

In reality, it's a cheap server NIC (they can cost in excess of a grand) with a heatsink shaped to look like a letter/dagger. Wheeeee :)
 

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