Unable to Overclock in x64

attica61

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I've ran into an issue were either it's not overclock or Vista just isn't recognizing my overclock. My hardware is as follows:

Motherboard: ASUS M4N72-E
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400 Brisbane 2.8GHz Dual Core Black Edition
RAM: GeIL Black Dragon 8GB PC2 6400 Quad Channel Kit Desktop
Video Cards:XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Editionx2
OS: Vista Home Premium x64

Now i realize my CPU is kind of a weak link in my set up but i've had excellent results overclocking it until i moved to vista. I previously ran XP Professional SP3 and had the system overclock to 3.1Ghz with no issues. The CPU temp ran at full load around 39C. Before i upgraded to vista i set all system settings back to default did my upgrade and then proceeded to push my overclock again. No matter when i changed my settings to it would show only the 2.8Ghz for processer speed in system settings. According to my motherboard the bus speed and multiplier are set high enough to obtain the 3.1 overclock again but the system settings are showing it only at 2.8Ghz. Has anyone had problems with this before?
 

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  • CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 5400 Brisbane 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4N72-E Nvidia Nforce 750a SLI
    Memory
    GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 SDRAM PC26400 Quad Channel Kit Desktop
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 20" LCD
    Case
    NZXT TEMPEST Crafted Series
    Internet Speed
    15 MB Downstream 2MB upstream
Hello attica61,
What bios are you using ?.
Asus has had issues with the CPU speed not being shown accurately in Vista. If you go to the Asus web site you can check to see if there is a new bios which may solve you problem.
Also what speed is it showing in CPUz ?.
Hope this helps, good luck and post your results, thanks.
 

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    QX9650 (black box) [email protected]
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    Asus P5Q Premium
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    8GB-4x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR 2-1066
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    2 x ASUS EAH 4870 X 2 (Quad)
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    Supreme FX 2
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    Fujitsu Siemens 22inch flat screen
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    150 Gig WD Raptor
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    CoolerMaster 1000
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    CoolerMaster N-Vidia stacker 830
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    Noctua NH-U12P x 1x120mm fan, 6x120mm case fans
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    Logitech G15
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    Logitech G5
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    20Mbps
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    Audio FX Pro 5+1 gaming head set
+1 for checking with cpu-z

Vista sysinfo only shows the stock speed of your clock and not the actual current speed.
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
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    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
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    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
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    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
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    Corsair AX1200W
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    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
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    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
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    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
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    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0
man i should have known to write dow that info for Bios. Im at work currently and thought i'd get some ideas. you've given me 2 good ones. I'm not familiar with CPU-Z but i'll check it out and tonight i'll figure out the bios version. I never flashed it upon reciept but i'll spend my day checking into BIO's updates. Thanks for the ideas. I'll post when i try these things and have more info.

Thanks!
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 5400 Brisbane 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4N72-E Nvidia Nforce 750a SLI
    Memory
    GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 SDRAM PC26400 Quad Channel Kit Desktop
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 20" LCD
    Case
    NZXT TEMPEST Crafted Series
    Internet Speed
    15 MB Downstream 2MB upstream
If you decide to update the bios, use the EZ flash in the bios, not the windows software update, it's too unreliable.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    QX9650 (black box) [email protected]
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Premium
    Memory
    8GB-4x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR 2-1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x ASUS EAH 4870 X 2 (Quad)
    Sound Card
    Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Fujitsu Siemens 22inch flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    150 Gig WD Raptor
    300 Gig Maxtor
    300 Gig Maxtor, (External)
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 1000
    Case
    CoolerMaster N-Vidia stacker 830
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12P x 1x120mm fan, 6x120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech G5
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Other Info
    Audio FX Pro 5+1 gaming head set
Well i ran CPU-Z i couldnt find a place quickly to post it but i'll get it up tonight. It did show my CPU speed at 2.8 Ghz. I rebooted and verfied that my multipler was set at 14x and the FSB is 228. This would equal 3.192 something like that. one thing i did notice is that the Hypertransport link is set to Auto with a variation of options. It also looks to me like not only is my CPU clock not working but my memory came up underclocked as well. It showed it was only running at 400Mhz where it should be 800Mhz. I'll get up the images of CPU-z this evening. Unless things have changed with the newer boards (this is my first update since my Socket A Athlon XP 2500+) then im not sure what im doing wrong lol :o

To answer the other question im using American Bios and it was updated 1-27-2009. I do show Asus came out with a newer Bios however they report it only covers new CPU support.(options for AM3) Should i go to it anyways? I looked for the EZ Flash bios last night but couldnt find it. Im guessing i need to boot to the CD and go for there? im downloading the manual for the board as we speak.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 5400 Brisbane 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4N72-E Nvidia Nforce 750a SLI
    Memory
    GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 SDRAM PC26400 Quad Channel Kit Desktop
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 20" LCD
    Case
    NZXT TEMPEST Crafted Series
    Internet Speed
    15 MB Downstream 2MB upstream
In the bios you will find an option for speed trap or speed set, cant remember which one, disable all of them, they let your CPU idle and cut back Ghz when it's not being heavily used and can give a false reading.
I will go in to my bios and check which ones it is and post.
Hope this helps, good luck.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    QX9650 (black box) [email protected]
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Premium
    Memory
    8GB-4x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR 2-1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x ASUS EAH 4870 X 2 (Quad)
    Sound Card
    Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Fujitsu Siemens 22inch flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    150 Gig WD Raptor
    300 Gig Maxtor
    300 Gig Maxtor, (External)
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 1000
    Case
    CoolerMaster N-Vidia stacker 830
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12P x 1x120mm fan, 6x120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech G5
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Other Info
    Audio FX Pro 5+1 gaming head set
No, it's not on this MB, had it on a striker 2 and had the same problem your having, after a bios update they cured it, but in the mean time i had to disable bits in the bios. I'm sure if you look, you will see what i mean, it's all under the CPU settings.
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
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    CPU
    QX9650 (black box) [email protected]
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Premium
    Memory
    8GB-4x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR 2-1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x ASUS EAH 4870 X 2 (Quad)
    Sound Card
    Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Fujitsu Siemens 22inch flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    150 Gig WD Raptor
    300 Gig Maxtor
    300 Gig Maxtor, (External)
    PSU
    CoolerMaster 1000
    Case
    CoolerMaster N-Vidia stacker 830
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12P x 1x120mm fan, 6x120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech G5
    Internet Speed
    20Mbps
    Other Info
    Audio FX Pro 5+1 gaming head set
Ok so here is the shots from CPU-Z as you see it shows the multipler at 14 and the FSB at 200. This is not the case in the Bios Settings (any way i can take a picture of this?) I also show pictures of memory settings and SPD. The memory is PC2 6400 800Mhz memory but it shows it's only running at 400. This shows 800 in the Bios as well. Im going to try to upgrade the Bios tonight *crosses fingers* hope i dont have problems..i'll let you know the out come.
CPU.jpg
memory.jpg
SPD.jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 5400 Brisbane 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4N72-E Nvidia Nforce 750a SLI
    Memory
    GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 SDRAM PC26400 Quad Channel Kit Desktop
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 20" LCD
    Case
    NZXT TEMPEST Crafted Series
    Internet Speed
    15 MB Downstream 2MB upstream
ok i updated the Bios to the newest version tonight and reset all my bios settings. According to the Bios my multiplier is 15.5 and the FSB is 200. this should give me an overclock around 3.1Mhz but cpu-z is Still showing what you see above. :/

any other ideas? I tried to email Asus about this but never received a response.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 5400 Brisbane 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4N72-E Nvidia Nforce 750a SLI
    Memory
    GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 SDRAM PC26400 Quad Channel Kit Desktop
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 20" LCD
    Case
    NZXT TEMPEST Crafted Series
    Internet Speed
    15 MB Downstream 2MB upstream
Do you have the AMD equivalent to speedstep/c1e enabled?

ie the clocks drop to a lower speed when not under load.
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7 3770K HT ON 4.7GHz
    Motherboard
    P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    X-FI Forte + ATH-AD900
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200 / 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-V1020A
    Cooling
    NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14: Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs:
    Clevo Sager P170HM //
    17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
    i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
    Dedicated GTX 485M //
    240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //

    Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0
Your the man! That was it! Future reference it's called AMD Cool N Quiet (i had to google it) It was enabled. I disabled this feature reboot and bam all settings see the system at 3.1Ghz now. Time to see how far i can push this baby!

One last question. Is it odd that my memory shows at only 400Mhz even when it's rated at 800Mhz? im guessing it has something to do with it being DDR2 and maybe that's just how it shows.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 5400 Brisbane 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4N72-E Nvidia Nforce 750a SLI
    Memory
    GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 SDRAM PC26400 Quad Channel Kit Desktop
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 20" LCD
    Case
    NZXT TEMPEST Crafted Series
    Internet Speed
    15 MB Downstream 2MB upstream
Your the man! That was it! Future reference it's called AMD Cool N Quiet (i had to google it) It was enabled. I disabled this feature reboot and bam all settings see the system at 3.1Ghz now. Time to see how far i can push this baby!

One last question. Is it odd that my memory shows at only 400Mhz even when it's rated at 800Mhz? im guessing it has something to do with it being DDR2 and maybe that's just how it shows.

cool and quiet software only underclocks your cpu when its not on load , if you ran a game or high cpu drain program you would see your overclock kick in automatically

that said your better of with anything like that disabled if your overclocking :)

your memory is DDR2 so its 400 x2 which equals 800 :)
 

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    Intel Q9550 @ 4Gig / Titan Fenir
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    XFX 780i
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    4GB OCZ PC2-8500C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gainward GTX260/216 SLI
    Sound Card
    Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell UltraSharp 2209WA 22"
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    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    western digital raptor 10000rpm sata
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    OCZ Modstream 700w
    Cooling
    Titan Fenir
    Keyboard
    Razer Reclusa
    Mouse
    Logitech G5 Gamer
    Internet Speed
    8mb
LOL ok makes sense. Thanks again ever for the help. Hope i can return the favor to someone some day.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon x2 5400 Brisbane 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus M4N72-E Nvidia Nforce 750a SLI
    Memory
    GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 SDRAM PC26400 Quad Channel Kit Desktop
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition Core
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 20" LCD
    Case
    NZXT TEMPEST Crafted Series
    Internet Speed
    15 MB Downstream 2MB upstream
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