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    O&O users: I have a question

    I am using O&O 10 pro. I have a fresh install of Vista x64 on a Raid 0 (2x150GB Raptors). I have run defrag in Space and Complete modes a few times now. Yet every time I run it I still have 50%+ fragmented files on my Raid. When I had Vista intalled on just one Raptor before, O&O would take it down to 0.3%. Is there something wrong? Or is this how O&O reads Raid 0, even after defragging? I have exhausted Google queries looking for an answer to this issue.



    Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    Re: O&O users: I have a question

    Is your paging file on this RAID 0? Try doing an offline defrag. It will do system and paging files properly.

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    Re: O&O users: I have a question

    I believe it is, since I did not move it to my sensitive data storage drive. I will try offline defrag tonight. See if that helps.

    I did a massive program reinstall since reformatting. I should have run defrag in between a few install batches.

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    Re: O&O users: I have a question

    I have tried O&O and have numerous problems with them. Not on a RAID system though. Then I went and tried Diskeeper x64 and Perfectdisk x64. They seem to work much better in comparison to 0&0. Sorry this didn't answer your question but I thought maybe a few alternative might be worth your time.

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    Re: O&O users: I have a question

    Yah, I had used O&O for almost a year on my previous Vista install, seemed to work on just one drive.

    I did the offline defrag in O&O, after doing so, "check drive" found a chkdsk error. There wasn't an error before, but now there is after O&O just defragged the files it was supposed to optimize. Go figure.

    Anyway, doing a trial of Perfect Disk right now. Seems to work better...at least it gives me peace of mind right now. Perfect Disk seems to leave a lot of chunks of free space, as opposed to a few large chunks. I thought it was supposed to optimize that?

    Gonna try Diskeeper on next defrag run.

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    Re: O&O users: I have a question

    Hi Blackjaw,
    Diskeeper 2008 Pro and Pro Premier editions support RAID as well as Vista 64-bit. Please do download the free trial versions of Diskeeper (current build is 781) from the downloads section of our website http://www.diskeeper.com

    If you wish to know a bit more about defragmenting RAID, these documents may be of help
    http://files.diskeeper.com/pdf/FileF...NASandRAID.pdf
    and
    http://downloads.diskeeper.com/pdf/n...chnologies.pdf

    More information about Diskeeper can be found in the White Papers section.
    Diskeeper Corporation Knowledge Center

    Hope this helps

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    Re: O&O users: I have a question

    I used Diskeeper for years. Beta tested with them. I left them. I was not happy with the product. It was slow and not optimized very well. The algorithm did not do a great defrag. Perfect disk had issue with firewire drives. I found O&O was the best.

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    Re: O&O users: I have a question

    Thanks for the replies.

    I wish O&O still worked correctly on my current install, I like that program. But when I did the Vista CHKDSK sequence, O&O did not find errors. When I did the offline defrag in O&O, all of a sudden I have CHKDSK errors. Didn't bode well with me. Anyway, I may investigate this problem further when I have some time.

    No worries here with firewire drives.

    Eventually I will test Diskeeper.

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    Re: O&O users: I have a question

    I would run chkdsk c: /r from dos prompt and reboot. I had the same issue. It was a hard drive going bad.

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    Re: O&O users: I have a question

    I am actually working with a higher up at DisKeeper who has put me in touch with a developer to get a few issues that I experienced with DK to make it work better, as well as making sure it is compatible with 64bit versions of Vista.

    When I get some new info I'll pass it along.

    (Be sure to remind me if you haven't heard anything from me in a month or so....the dev is actually in China presently so we're at a standstill....)

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