64bit programes

fred54321

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i dont understand why companys with the likes of zonealarm winavi plus manymore have decided not to make there programes compatable with 64x bit machines its abit of a pain really when you have been useing certain software for years then bang the support ends is 64x software such a problem there must be well many 64x machines out there i just thought i would post this as i dont understand why they have cut short 64bit support.
 

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Every company will likely have its own mix of reasons for being shy about 64-bit, but they all tend to fall into one of only a few categories:

- They don't think the market exi$ts yet. Their fee paying-punters are still mostly on 32-bit platforms, and the costs of having to convert and maintain a 64-bit codebase alongside their 32-bit product is seen as a net loss.

- They don't have the skills necessary to implement a 64-bit version. Granted, it's not particularly difficult, but grandad was the only one in the company who actually knew how to code and he retired in the 1980s. Ever since then, the app's just been getting a visual makeover ever-so-often, but internal knowledge of its architecture is long gone.

- 64-bit Windows has stricter standards in kernel-mode development, and one or more of the app's components fall foul of those 64-bit-specific rules. Producing a 64-bit version would require such a large development effort that they might as well start from scratch and call the product something new and exciting.

- They don't feel that the type of work done by their app would benefit from a transition to 64-bit. In other words, the app is relatively small and undemanding.

Statistically, most holdout companies would fall into the first bucket.
 

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fred54321,

I bought a Dell XPS 430 System (Desktop) it has a 64Bit Vista Home Premium installed, and I found out by trial and error, that Alot of Software whether it is 32Bit or 64Bit actually work on my 64Bit OS, I do use quiet a bit of the 64Bit Software, but some I cannot find for the system, so I have to revert to 32Bit, The Real Only Big Difference between the two are that 64Bit OS were Designed to handle Six and Above Gigabytes of RAM, while 32Bits were designed to handle up to the Six, but average around 4GB of RAM, I have found that a few software's will flatly refuse to run on 64Bit, and I agree, I think all software publishers should have the option for the 64Bit software running side by side of the 32 Bit... Another thing when I received my Desktop, it had the x86 Program Files Folder in the hard drive, so it is set to run it too. All in All I have only found software that I can count on one hand that refuses to run 64Bit... Good Luck My Friend... Marine43
 

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Every company will likely have its own mix of reasons for being shy about 64-bit, but they all tend to fall into one of only a few categories:

- They don't think the market exi$ts yet. Their fee paying-punters are still mostly on 32-bit platforms, and the costs of having to convert and maintain a 64-bit codebase alongside their 32-bit product is seen as a net loss.

- They don't have the skills necessary to implement a 64-bit version. Granted, it's not particularly difficult, but grandad was the only one in the company who actually knew how to code and he retired in the 1980s. Ever since then, the app's just been getting a visual makeover ever-so-often, but internal knowledge of its architecture is long gone.

- 64-bit Windows has stricter standards in kernel-mode development, and one or more of the app's components fall foul of those 64-bit-specific rules. Producing a 64-bit version would require such a large development effort that they might as well start from scratch and call the product something new and exciting.

- They don't feel that the type of work done by their app would benefit from a transition to 64-bit. In other words, the app is relatively small and undemanding.

Statistically, most holdout companies would fall into the first bucket.



:) I second these views. But things will change, they will eventually see the light.
 

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I can't get my Tiger Woods 08 game to play online using my new 64 bit vista home. I was told there is an update to allow you to play. Any ideas as to where I can find the update?
 

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I'm not sure about the update/patch, but try running it in Compatibility Mode:

Compatibility Mode.

1. Right-click the game's desktop shortcut icon and choose 'Properties'.
2. In the Properties Panel, click the 'Compatibility' tab.
3. Place a check in the 'Compatibility Mode' checkbox.
4. Choose the Option Windows XP SP2
5. Click 'Apply' to save your changes.
 

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I can't get my Tiger Woods 08 game to play online using my new 64 bit vista home. I was told there is an update to allow you to play. Any ideas as to where I can find the update?


Have you tried checking EAs website or googling "Tiger Woods 08 update"
 

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Tried both no luck yet.
 

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    GeForce 8600 GT
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    HDaudio/Realtek
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Tried both no luck yet.
Any one have any other ideas.
No ideas to fix your problem but have some input and a question.

I don't have games or other software that are high speed graphics demanding.

The 32 bit software that works on my WinXP Pro PC are loading and running on my Dell Vista 64 bit PC fine. Even Photoshop 7 loads and works fine even though it is a graphics software. But it's not a high speed graphics demand software which is probably why it works.

Are folks with 32 bit NON high speed graphics demand software having problems loading and running on their 64 bit Vista PCs?

Sky
 

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fred54321,

I bought a Dell XPS 430 System (Desktop) it has a 64Bit Vista Home Premium installed, and I found out by trial and error, that Alot of Software whether it is 32Bit or 64Bit actually work on my 64Bit OS, I do use quiet a bit of the 64Bit Software, but some I cannot find for the system, so I have to revert to 32Bit, The Real Only Big Difference between the two are that 64Bit OS were Designed to handle Six and Above Gigabytes of RAM, while 32Bits were designed to handle up to the Six, but average around 4GB of RAM, I have found that a few software's will flatly refuse to run on 64Bit, and I agree, I think all software publishers should have the option for the 64Bit software running side by side of the 32 Bit... Another thing when I received my Desktop, it had the x86 Program Files Folder in the hard drive, so it is set to run it too. All in All I have only found software that I can count on one hand that refuses to run 64Bit... Good Luck My Friend... Marine43

You got it all wrong with the RAM part.
 

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Tried both no luck yet.
Any one have any other ideas.
No ideas to fix your problem but have some input and a question.

I don't have games or other software that are high speed graphics demanding.

The 32 bit software that works on my WinXP Pro PC are loading and running on my Dell Vista 64 bit PC fine. Even Photoshop 7 loads and works fine even though it is a graphics software. But it's not a high speed graphics demand software which is probably why it works.

Are folks with 32 bit NON high speed graphics demand software having problems loading and running on their 64 bit Vista PCs?

Sky

No, Adobe CS4 runs fine on my laptop
 

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No, this is the only game I can get to work. All others work fine.
My CS 7,NHL 09, even Quake 4 and Madden 09.
 

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Tiger Woods 08 is the only software I'm having trouble with. It works fine until I want play on line. It will not let me log on to EA servers. The game works fine on my HP laptop. I was playing online last week (on the laptop) and the person I was playing told me there is a patch for 64 bit computers and he gave me the link to this website. Thanks for help and I'll keep looking.

Len Murphy
 

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At least with 64-bit versions of Vista you can justify putting 24GB of DDR3 RAM in a X58 motherboard.:D
 

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