[VISTA]Duplicated Programs

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magonicola

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Hi,
I've got Vista Ultimate 64bit on my Turion64 PC and I have a question: The folder "Program Files (x86)" is an exact copy of "Program files" (64bit) and a lot of system associations (i.e. MP3, HTM, Images..) are done with 32bit version of vista softwares (mediaplayer, explorer..). Why if I've installed the operating system at 64bit there's still the 32bit folder? And why the o.s. don't prefer the 64bit version of his own programs?
I've read about "extremes" solutions like to delete the x86 folder and to duplicate the 64bit folder using the name of 32bit one, but this means a duplicate space used on hdd... do u have any suggest or info?

Thanks.


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Salve,
ho vista ultimate 64bit sul mio PC ed ho 1 dubbio: la cartella Programmi (x86) è un esatto duplicato della cartella Programmi a 64 bit (almeno all'origine), e molte associazioni (es. mp3, visualizzatore immagini) sono fatte con le versioni 32 bit... ma perchè se installo il s.o. a 64bit c'è ancora la cartella a 32? E perchè non vengono "preferiti" i programmi a 64bit?
Ho letto di soluzioni "estreme" (cancellare la cartella x86 e duplicare la "programmi" con nome "programmi (x86) ) ma sarebbe un grande spreco di memoria... sapete qualcosa a riguardo? Perchè questi duplicati? Posso farli fuori?

Grazie...
 

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Hi Magonicola,

Welcome to the forum.

The C:\Program Files folder are 64 bit applications, and the C:\Program Files (x86) folder are 32 bit applications as you discovered. There are two versions in the 64 bit Vista for backwards compatibility with 32 bit programs. Plus, there are not very many 64 bit add-ons for programs like Windows Media Player (WMP) or Internet Explorer (EX: Flash Player).

To use IE7 64 bit, there is a shortcut for it in the Start Menu under All Programs.

To switch to the 64 bit WMP as the default, you can see this link for how:

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/60402-windows-media-player-wmp.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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Hi,
sorry but I haven't followed your suggest.. :D I hated the x86 folder, in particular I hated that this was an "Imposition" and not a free choice of the user... so I've done this:
- ) Regedit -> changed the default path "CommonFilesDir (X86)" and "ProgramFilesDir (x86)" making equals to 64bit version;
- ) modifing all the references to x86 folders in registry in 64bit references;
- ) copy and NOT substitute all the progsx86 folder in the progs folder.

Now I'm free to decide in what place of my progs dir the program will be installed (for default it's in progs dir, and I think i'll install all in it, using the appropriate suffix, in case of necessity, to indicate the architecture). With this change I've got also the benefit that all the defaults programs are in 64bit version (IE, WMP...).
I've got no problem for "hardly search of plugin" because IE and WMP are not my prefered sw.. :D (for example firefox and vlc are much better).

I hope my hours for modifing vista are useful to somebody else...

There's still just another 2 problems:
- ) It's possible to "unlock" totally the register? (There are some keys that I can't change because of some limitations-file in use-some other reasons... like some keys refered to IE);
- ) it's possible to "totally unlock" the progsx86 folder to delete it permanently (now in my pc is still there..), i.e. some software like "xp-lite" that disable the control on system files deletion ecc... that permit me to del this folder?


Thanks

(PS: If there's someone that want to do the same as me, I suggest to do a backup of all the registry and, at the end ow work, to run some programs to optimize, clean and defrag registry)



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to delete folders andfiles, I used "rm -R" command of CygWin... now there's only some keys in registry and will be perfect :D (i must disable Windows Resource Protection)
 
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Hi Magonicola,

To modify those registry keys that will not let you, you will need to take ownership of them. You can see how here in method two (Step 3):

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html

When you get done and if you have the time, you should write a tutorial on this. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it.

Shawn
 

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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
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