Vista - For those of you who say you don't need antivirus on vista...

Here's some interestig reading for you. Ofcourse, you may still argue that "I only go to facebook so I'm safe". It's not true ofcourse, since any website can be hacked, and you'll probably accept an UAC request for some new killer feature "facebook" claims to have implemented. Even if YOU may not, someone else at your computer could accept for you without even considering what they are doing.

Anyway, here goes:

Security design: Why UAC will not work | InfoWorld | Column | 2008-01-11 | By Roger A. Grimes
Techworld.com - Microsoft: UAC not a security feature
Vista UAC isn’t just annoying and stupid; it’s insecure too! | Arno# - The cutting edge of developer waffle
User Account Control (UAC) on Vista - A useless feature - Nick Whittome - The Naked MVP
Want UAC-Free iReboot? You got it: iReboot 1.1 released! — The NeoSmart Files
4sysops - It is official now: User Account Control (UAC) is useless for administrators
Hacker, Microsoft duke it out over Vista design flaw | Zero Day | ZDNet.com

I bought nod32 smart security 64-bit this week, very happy with it. Light on resources and not overly protective. Those who say they don't need anti virus software are fools

First thing I do is install antivirus software before I even connect to the internet.

Bang On mike-cow!!

It's absolutely INSANE to own a connected computer today without at least, good AV and Firewall. Anyone who says different simply does not understand the complexity of today's Malware and just how prevalent and invasive it can be, no matter How smart the user thinks they are.
After 9 years of being an Independent, new Unknown Variant tester for AV companies, and at least as long working with the developers of AdAware, Spybot, HijackThis, MalwareBytes and others...I know just how easy it is for even the most Careful security experts, who know this stuff backwards, to become infected accidentally even with all the tools.
So if they can get infected, what makes others think they can navigate the WildWiredWorld safely without it.

Nutz...just Nutz I say!

Consider me a partially reformed fool then. Out of smugness, or arrogance or a mixture of both, I'd been running Vista with just the Windows firewall and no A/V.

It wasn't until a couple of months ago when I'd proudly posted a reply in another forum claiming "I don't use any A/V. I don't need to. I keep an eye on my system. I know what it's doing".

Sure enough, the very next day I noticed some odd new processes that weren't there the day before. Surprise, surprise, I'd picked up a Vundo variant. It wiped the smug of my face

I've been using Avast since then....

In my defense, if I have one, I was on it like a flash and it's been the first virus I've had in a few years.... Well, that I know of anyway

I still don't use resident protection though..... so yeah, I'm a partially reformed fool

I think new users should definitely have some sort of protection though.

I think *cough*'experienced' users should also have some protection too

UAC is as secure as PICNIC

Microsoft released two patches last Tuesday on Windows Update

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms08-064.mspx

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS08-061 – Important: Vulnerabilities in Windows Kernel Could Allow Elevation of Privilege (954211)

Not needed an AV in 18 months since using UAC

Yes but your an experienced user. We should encourage newbies to use security software.

I use Avira but no resident protection. All that I've tried reduce performance. I do schedule a full system scan every night at 12am. I also have a hardware and software firewall and use Truecrypt for all of my personal data.