Vista - whats you view on protection and its limits

do think its all bloatware
do you think its a conspericy?
do you think you can only get through email/download

post your thoughts and feelings on protection and its limits.

were is /kaspersky/avast ?
alot people use them now days to ?
as for them on top i would not use them to be honest..
norton is biggest pile poo ever made all virus to get through pfft no good man or beast..
as for rest would not know as i never used them before

You will never get a definite answer as everyone has their favourite and even the best aren't always 100%.

Don't forget that the bad guys are always thinking up ways to try and beat them and you can't expect 1 piece of software to be able to stop everything all of the time.

This is why it's a good idea to have a layered approach to security and practise Safe Hex.

[quote practise Safe Hex.[/quote]

I like that

This will result in subjective opinions that are based on personal preference.

Ps- I am a perpetual Beta tester of OneCare (I get free yearly renewals, and the new version/builds before the public). I removed it because When I ran NOD32 online scans It detected malware that OneCare missed. Also, Windows Live OneCare will discontinue retail sales of Windows Live OneCare subscription service beginning June 30, 2009

The best overall indicator is to look at certified lab test results where malware/viruses are thrown at the program to test performance and detection.

These are the best certification labs, and here is the latest lab test results:Vista SP1 Antivirus Performance

For AV-Comparatives November 2008 Test results (proactive-retroactive (heuristic) Test part 2 of 2)
For AV-Comparatives August 2008 Test results (on-Demand Test Part 1 of 2)
For current Vista x64 results December 2008 (virus Bulletin- VB100)

*Av-Comparatives Determined Avira Pro/Premium to be the best in 2008. Eset NOD32 took a close second in 2008, and was the best in the proactive-Retroactive test)
Eset NOD32 was the Best in 2006 and 2007 in the AV-Comparative tests, and consistantly wins the VB100 Award from Virus Bulletin year after year.

So, based on performance/detection NOD32 is the best of your list. NOD32 4.0 is the newest release that features (amongst other things) self-defense, and the ability to create a bootable disk, and Sys Inspector to take snapshots and allow comparision for system iregularities and file changes/corruption. NOD32 also allows backing up the Config settings, and password protected settings.

the bad guys? you didn't think the good guys only make "anti-virus" did you?

Norton IS 2009 is way better than its bloatware predessors. Microsoft Live One Care is okay, but is a pain to install/set up. I really don't trust McAfee anymore after a trojan corrupted it several years ago. I don't trust free AV programs because those I've used missed a bunch of viruses. I use Kaspersky IS 2009.

If you ask me it's all stupid and unnecessary.

If you have a firewall that can block direct attacks to your PC you're all good.

Who needs bloody anti-virus/internet security software that hoggs up your resources, checks EVERY SINGLE DAMN FILE before it loads when you click on it, LAGS the crap out of every site because it has to filter/scan it first, checks for updates EVERY SINGLE DAY when you least want it to.

it's all rubbish.

If people would learn NOT to go to shady sites or run attachements on spammail the world would not need anti-virus software.

HELL even if I do get a virus on my pc it'll be off of it again within 5 minutes guaranteed. I know all processes that run on my pc, keep my folder structure tight, security tight, windows defender tight (that IS one of vista's major plus points if you ask me btw, its epic), DEP.

And if all else fails there is always system recovery to save the day \o/

and if EVEN that fails ill just format my hd and reinstall windows. It's been about half a year now since im running vista and seeing as I otherwise wouldnt ever get to it a virus to screw up my pc would help motivate me to finally 'clean out the shed' =)

Nothing is perfect. I use Avast Pro with no problems. Many variants of Vundo can get through anything. Just don't go to unknown sites. Keep your anti-virus and Windows Updates done.

You are kidding right??

It is a very , very bad idea to run a pc connected to the internet without Malware/Virus protection-(I hope you dont use email, download any files, use IE add ons, codec packs for Video playback, use credit cards, etc).

Only an inexperienced User would think that "safe surfing" is an effective means of preventing Malware. There are spoofed websites of banks/sites, worms, trojans, and without a good antivirus you will eventually either lose data, suffer identity theft, hijacking, or a end up with a system so corrupted only a re-install will fix the problem).

One day when you are unable to log into user accounts, or see your bank account suffer unexplained "withdrawals", or recieve "collection calls" on unpaid credit card/loan accounts, or have difficulty obtaining a credit card/loan/tax return because your Personal data is being hijacked/used by others.... Remember your philosophy here, and dont be surprised... Its not just about "Opps, got malware, re-install Windows".

Malware is embedded all the time (trojans) in hacked code on legit sites such as Yahoo/Facebook/MSN/Paypal, etc. "safe surfing" will not protect you from these threats.
Credit card/banking/Identitiy theft are big money now a days. Go without Antivirus/antimalware at your own risk. I personally would rather do other things with my time, then constantly re-install Windows, desperately try to recover lost/corrupted data, fight with collections/banks over unauthorized accounts/charges. Or have to prove to the Government That I am not an impostor in order to obtain Government benefits/tax returns, or fight tax liability.

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