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    Apple OS X versus Vista, RAM division

    Interesting note comparing RAM useage on OS X and Vista

    "As I noted earlier this week, I’ve begun using a MacBook (the basic white model) and keeping a log of my experiences.


    Now that I have this system up and running on a full-sized screen, I’m ready to make some head-to-head comparisons with Windows. Because this system has a mere 1GB of RAM, I was curious to get a sense of how thrifty OS X Leopard is when it comes to memory usage. I was especially curious to see how Leopard compares to Vista, which as been slammed by critics as a resource hog.
    To get started I opened Safari and opened a single web page, then began playing an MP3 track in iTunes. With those tasks running, I checked the results from Activity Monitor:

    As you can see, the OS reports that 581MB is in use, with 430MB free.
    Next, I launched a similar set of tasks on a system running Windows Vista Ultimate. To make the comparison fair, I used the System Configuration utility to disable all but 1024MB of memory in the system, which has 4GB of RAM. This system is using the full Aero interface (disabling it had no significant impact on the RAM footprint). I opened Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer, began playing the same MP3 tune and browsed to the same page that was open on the Macbook. Here’s what Task Manager showed for memory usage:

    For those keeping score, the Vista machine is using 594MB of RAM, which is roughly 2% more than its Mac counterpart running the same set of tasks.
    Vista gets a bad rap for lots of things, including its reputedly voracious appetite for memory. As you can see, Vista compares favorably to OS X in this regard and doesn’t deserve that reputation."


    OS X versus Vista, RAM division | Ed Bott’s Microsoft Report | ZDNet.com

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    Re: Apple OS X versus Vista, RAM division

    Well that's cool, but I had a feeling it was always like that...

    It's all that marketing hype and just the bad rep Vista got from the beginning that made everyone think everything was wrong with vista lol.

    But that's cool you did that since you are most likely showing true facts and are not changing any stats like some companies like to do lol.

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    Re: Apple OS X versus Vista, RAM division

    Very good in house testing NormCameron. Honest results such as this keep people properly informed.

    Having said that.

    I had the plesure(pun) of having to try and figure out a problem on 2 Mac book pros.

    It involved Palm sync software. The Mac books were being used by an investment brokarage and syncing the contact list to the mac from the Palm was cruciel.

    After 3 hours of balking with the system I was put in contact with the companies resident mac specialist. After an hour of danceing with him over a 2500 mile long distance call he finaly told me I would need to constantly re apply everything we did, over and over until it eventually took.

    He then went on to say that its was bugs in the system that you basically have to keep sqashing until it finaly worked. After asking if other software presented similar problems there was a sigh and a breif pause over the speakerphone followed by a "pretty much all of it" answer.

    I was floored.

    It seems that most production base software for macs is so full of bad code that most bussiness avoid it.

    I was in a hospital emergency room last night and found every system in the place running a MS base system.

    Also I didnt enjoy useing the mac books. One was runnng Tiger and the other Leporad. Both 2.4 ghz CPUs and 1 gig ram. Slow as hell, with nothing but the office production software in place.

    They say they just work.

    Riiiiiggggghhhhhtttttt.

    I'll stick with Gates. I already got a job.

    Sorry for the long post, this really is NormCamerons thread. But after Apples latest smear campaign and my own personal mac nightmare, I"m a little fumed.

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    Re: Apple OS X versus Vista, RAM division

    Quote Originally Posted by joel406 View Post
    Very good in house testing NormCameron. Honest results such as this keep people properly informed.

    Having said that.

    I had the plesure(pun) of having to try and figure out a problem on 2 Mac book pros.

    It involved Palm sync software. The Mac books were being used by an investment brokarage and syncing the contact list to the mac from the Palm was cruciel.

    After 3 hours of balking with the system I was put in contact with the companies resident mac specialist. After an hour of danceing with him over a 2500 mile long distance call he finaly told me I would need to constantly re apply everything we did, over and over until it eventually took.

    He then went on to say that its was bugs in the system that you basically have to keep sqashing until it finaly worked. After asking if other software presented similar problems there was a sigh and a breif pause over the speakerphone followed by a "pretty much all of it" answer.

    I was floored.

    It seems that most production base software for macs is so full of bad code that most bussiness avoid it.

    I was in a hospital emergency room last night and found every system in the place running a MS base system.

    Also I didnt enjoy useing the mac books. One was runnng Tiger and the other Leporad. Both 2.4 ghz CPUs and 1 gig ram. Slow as hell, with nothing but the office production software in place.

    They say they just work.

    Riiiiiggggghhhhhtttttt.

    I'll stick with Gates. I already got a job.

    Sorry for the long post, this really is NormCamerons thread. But after Apples latest smear campaign and my own personal mac nightmare, I"m a little fumed.

    Well that makes at least 2 of us lol.

    I have not experienced what you have, and I am sure it was complete crap lol...

    The only thing that I see that Mac's having going for them is not able at least at the moment to get spyware, malware, viruses etc.

    Other than that I find them just boring to use with that gray border every program uses and the way its so hard to just close a program and when you have like 3 apps running it's just harder than it should be to find them.

    How anyone can say they are easier to work on is completely nuts.

    I would love to talk about it more in detail, but I rather try to stay on topic

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    Re: Apple OS X versus Vista, RAM division

    OSX is bloat if you consider Windows can still run applications from 1995 plus its executing more work than OSX at runtime while keeping the similar footprint

    I dont like them for the simple reason you pay twice the price than Windows for three times the less available functions and software for a less configurable/flexable, unrepairable machine thats useless for anyone who wants to do tasks like play Games or repair the hardware


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    Well typically Mac users are complete idiots. Not to be 100% rude, but they buy them because they know it's harder to **** up and when something fails they come running into the mac store like they are going to rob the place saying WHAT THE #$%# IS GOING ON and will pay a high price for that repair like when they pay an INSANE amount of money on a ram upgrade when you can buy it from newegg for less than half the price

    Face it. Most people buying Mac have no idea what they are doing and just want it because they say how "pimp" or how cool the looks are and the OS is just amazing, and they also say how crappy Vista is without even using it because that's what the ad says.

    For some reason they will NOT believe political ads, medical pill ads, but they will hold true everything Apple says in it's ad's.

    A complete joke.

    I do find it funny and really Odd that Apple focuses so much on what Vista CAN'T do and they NEVER and I mean that I have never seen an Ad about OSX that says what it's better at then Vista. If they need to always bash Microsoft that should be a red flag right there that it's all BS.

    I still can't find anything OSX can do that Vista can't do by itself or with help of a 3rd party program that is almost always free.

    It just makes me upset because I hate people spending more money they should have to, and when people are spending tons of money on a mac laptop when they can get a vista laptop that has equal or better specs for 1/4 to 1/2 off the price of what mac charges. It's just a giant big LOL.



    Quote Originally Posted by dmex View Post
    OSX is bloat if you consider Windows can still run applications from 1995 plus its executing more work than OSX at runtime while keeping the similar footprint

    I dont like them for the simple reason you pay twice the price than Windows for three times the less available functions and software for a less configurable/flexable, unrepairable machine thats useless for anyone who wants to do tasks like play Games or repair the hardware

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    It would be nice to take the credit for this, but as you can see from the link a gentleman named Ed Bott is responsible, Glad you liked the post though. It reinforced my belief that a lot of what is written about Vista is uninformed rubbish from hacks who have to justify their existence. It was nice to see an objective viewpoint.

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    Re: Apple OS X versus Vista, RAM division

    Don't always click the links, but he proved that there is little difference.

    Thanks for posting

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    Re: Apple OS X versus Vista, RAM division

    Well, one of the things that causes vista to hog resources is the video. Thus, if you have a good video card, which is pretty much standard nowadays, it would make the machine perform better. What happens is vista distributes a lot of the graphics processing into the video card to relieve the processor of other tasks. So having a good video card is one of the keys to a well performing Vista machine. It would be interesting to note that the tests you did probably involved a computer that had a decent video card, if I would imagine.

    Regarding Microsoft windows on machines in hospitals, windows based software is used a lot to control machines because it has many of the technologies already built into the operating systems that interface with much of the off-the-shelf hardware as well as being able to be customizable by engineers who build systems based on embedded computers. Although at this point, most of them are not using vista per say, but all running other operating systems like windows NT, windows 2000 and maybe windows XP in certain cases. It takes a little while for everything to be shaken out of a new OS before it could be used for something that is dangerous or may involve lives.

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    Re: Apple OS X versus Vista, RAM division

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamd View Post
    I do find it funny and really Odd that Apple focuses so much on what Vista CAN'T do and they NEVER and I mean that I have never seen an Ad about OSX that says what it's better at then Vista.
    I was in an Apple Store not too long ago with a friend who was thinking of buying an iMAc. I went up to the salesman and said why should my friend buy a Mac? He said "well you can make professional dvds and photo albums"
    "You can do that on a pc"
    "OK well you can listen to your music and watch films and view photos through Frontrow"
    "You can do that in Media Centre"
    "You will never get viruses or spyware"
    "I haven't had a virus on my Windows system for as long as I can remember"
    "Macs look really cool"
    "You can get a really nice looking PC if thats what floats your boat plus it will be way cheaper"

    Needless to say we left without buying anything.

    Now I've played on OSX quite a bit and truthfully I quite like it but I would never consider switching to it because its too restrictive. I want to be able to pick the components I want and not have to take out a loan to pay for them.

    The main thing that attracted me to OSX was the looks and that was when I was on XP but now with Vista the looks are enough to make me consider switching.

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