SP1: can't get hotmail from different accounts

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msdunkel

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Installed SP1 late last week and I'm quite unhappy with it. Stupid SP turned all the start up items and proccesses on, that I'd spent weeks filtering through and turning off. I've turned off pretty much everything, yet my computer takes about twice as long to boot up as before. I HATE that stupid icon they've used to replace the hourglass, because it's ALWAYS there.

In addition, the newest oddity is only the 1st person to login can get their hotmail without a reboot. If I login under my username and get hotmail, then my wife switches user and tries to get her hotmail she can login, but can't view her inbox. The opposite is true if she logs in first and I switch user.

Who knows what else this SP screwed up but I haven't found yet. Anybody else have this issue and figure out a fix?
 

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Not a problem for me....

Have you perchance disabled a service that SP1 has now made mandatory in order to use Fast User Switch and online credentials?
 

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I have no idea, do you know which one that might be? I can't even sign out of it to try relogging in.

By the way, I tried to system restore, and with my whopping 1TB HD, somehow system restore only had 2 restore points, both of which are after I did the SP1 update.

I...
am...
so...
pissed...
off...

Seriously, how could MS continue to bungle about their premeire OS? This is absolutely ridiculous.
 
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No offense, but I am pretty sure this is not an M$ issue - after all, by your own admission, you were going around and disabling things left and right to get it working the way *you* wanted.

I have installed Vista more times than I can count - and I have only had issues with SP1 *not showing up in WU* on my older machine that had drivers installed that Vista SP1 did not like.

Are you perchance dual booting? Also, maybe next time you should install Vista and all updates prior to tweaking your system....
 

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    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
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    CPU
    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
    PSU
    Thermaltake Black Widow TX TR2 850W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod ATX
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    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
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    Corsair H100 (CPU, dual 140 mm fans on radiator) + Air (2 *
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    Logitech G15 (gen 2)
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    Logitech MX Master (shared)
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
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    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
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    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
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    AMD A6-5350M APU
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
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    Lenovo
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    Lenovo
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    Lenovo
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    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
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    Lenovo
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    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
msdunkel said:
I have no idea, do you know which one that might be? I can't even sign out of it to try relogging in.

By the way, I tried to system restore, and with my whopping 1TB HD, somehow system restore only had 2 restore points, both of which are after I did the SP1 update.

I...
am...
so...
pissed...
off...

Seriously, how could MS continue to bungle about their premeire OS? This is absolutely ridiculous.
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johngalt said:
No offense, but I am pretty sure this is not an M$ issue - after all, by your own admission, you were going around and disabling things left and right to get it working the way *you* wanted.

I have installed Vista more times than I can count - and I have only had issues with SP1 *not showing up in WU* on my older machine that had drivers installed that Vista SP1 did not like.

Are you perchance dual booting? Also, maybe next time you should install Vista and all updates prior to tweaking your system....
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I agree with Johngalt, the few hundred machines I have installed Vista on have had no minor or major issues compared with XP even on old and dogy hardware/software....

What Antivirus software do you have installed also what registry cleaner/system tweaker programs have you used, including Vlite?
 

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Thanks for the replies. I was running Spybot and Kapersky antivirus. They seemed to be overlapping each other and I now only have Kapersky.

Pre SP1 I eventually got to the point where I ran msconfig and disabled all startup items and had no issues. When I did that post SP1 (which I did since SP1 enabled ALL my startup items), I ran into this problem with hotmail. I re-enabled everything that had the MS stamp on it and was just able to get my hotmail from both accounts so my problem was user induced.

That said, I've always considered the startup items under msconfig as optional items that add some sort of functionality at the expense of speed. There's never been a start up item that had to run or my computer would not function properly. Now, apparently that is no longer the case.

I can't talk to hundreds of computers since I've only got one running Vista 64. If they want to market this to the masses, then I shouldn't have to be an expert that installs this on hundreds of computers to make it work. I will say, that I'm glad these forums have such experts willing to help out the more casual user though!

Thanks much.
Mike
 

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Hmmm - Kaspersky Suite, or just Kaspersky AV? If just AV, then no, Spybot and KAV are not overlapping - each provides a completely different set of protections.

RE: SP1 and an MS startup - well, there is one thing to remember - you consider *all* startups as unnecessary, but as you found out some of them are necessary but default. In your case what you should do is research, research research - you have to *know* what is necessary and what is not before you go and start disabling things.

Almost every tweak site will tell you - if you plan on tweaking, tweak one thing at a time and reboot and assess performance - sure it takes longer, but after having done that for many major tweaks you'll have a good idea what can and cannot be tweaked.

Also, this is an Operating System - you have to expect that some things were *meant* to run at startup so as to provide you with certain functionality. Again, this is where the research part comes into play.

Now, don't get me wrong - I am not saying you're an idiot and nor am I saying that tweaking is bad - it's just that you'll see many inconsiderate users out there posting blogs and instructions on how to tweak something without giving you a good analysis on *why* you should tweak, and furthermore, without giving you an analysis of what could go wrong if you tweak a particular setting.

A *great* example - in Vista Ultimate, there is a wonderful built in screen capture tool called Sniping Tool - works great. However, guess what? If you disable Tablet PC services, Snipping stops working. It is *directly dependent upon TabletPC service. Of course, if you go into the Services and see that running, and you don't have a TabletPC, then your instinct is to turn it off.

Since Vista has been RTM for over 1.5 years now, most of us have been there and done that - we've made the same mistakes before, so it is far easier to do the research before hand rather than using the trial and error method to achieve your desired results.

Oh - and don't fall for the RAM optimizer trap - it's bogus.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
    Manufacturer/Model
    The Beast Model V (homebrew)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
    PSU
    Thermaltake Black Widow TX TR2 850W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod ATX
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
    Cooling
    Corsair H100 (CPU, dual 140 mm fans on radiator) + Air (2 *
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15 (gen 2)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared)
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
  • Operating System
    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
    CPU
    AMD A6-5350M APU
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Lenovo
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
Ugh. My hotmail login problem is back with all the MS startup items enabled. No idea why it's doing this now, only know that it started after SP1.
 

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