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Old 10-09-2009   #1 (permalink)


vista 64
 
 

windows update crash when downloading

i have vista home premium 64bit sp1, think it started when activating windows update, i didnt want to install an active control, chose another method thats when i got blue screen system shutdown and i see this irql not less or equal..

windows update wasnt able to find any updates, so i went back to activating windows installed the active control, now im able to check for updates.

only thing is when i try installing the updates, it just tries to install but nothing is installing, then blue screen shutdown, how can i get the updates to install? appreaciate any help..

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Last edited by violation009; 10-09-2009 at 04:15 PM..
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Old 10-09-2009   #2 (permalink)


Vista Bussiness x64 PL
 
 

Re: windows update crash when downloading

Quote:
irql not less or equal
This commands mean unindetefied conflict with drivers or hardware

We need more details to diagnose.Pack the whole C:\Windows\Minidump folder and attache to post
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Old 10-09-2009   #3 (permalink)


vista 64
 
 

Re: windows update crash when downloading

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Flavius View Post
Quote:
irql not less or equal
This commands mean unindetefied conflict with drivers or hardware

We need more details to diagnose.Pack the whole C:\Windows\Minidump folder and attache to post
ok its attached to original post
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Old 10-09-2009   #4 (permalink)


Vista 32 win 7 7600 32 bit
 
 

Re: windows update crash when downloading

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by violation009 View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Flavius View Post
Quote:
irql not less or equal
This commands mean unindetefied conflict with drivers or hardware

We need more details to diagnose.Pack the whole C:\Windows\Minidump folder and attache to post
ok its attached to original post
V

Im in the process of taking a quick look at the dumps. One thing immediately caught my eye. there are drivers from as far back as 2004. What version are you running? sp1?

ken

AsIO Thu Oct 14 05:53:21 2004 (416E4C91)
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Old 10-09-2009   #5 (permalink)


vista 64
 
 

Re: windows update crash when downloading

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by violation009 View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Flavius View Post
This commands mean unindetefied conflict with drivers or hardware

We need more details to diagnose.Pack the whole C:\Windows\Minidump folder and attache to post
ok its attached to original post
V

Im in the process of taking a quick look at the dumps. One thing immediately caught my eye. there are drivers from as far back as 2004. What version are you running? sp1?

ken

AsIO Thu Oct 14 05:53:21 2004 (416E4C91)
home premimum vista 64 bit, sp1
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Old 10-09-2009   #6 (permalink)


Vista 32 win 7 7600 32 bit
 
 

Re: windows update crash when downloading

violation

I have something I would like you to check

go into start>cpanel>system cpanel>advanced settings>performance settings>DEP. what is the dep currently set to?


Ken
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Old 10-09-2009   #7 (permalink)


vista 64
 
 

Re: windows update crash when downloading

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
violation

I have something I would like you to check

go into start>cpanel>system cpanel>advanced settings>performance settings>DEP. what is the dep currently set to?


Ken
its set to: turn on dep for essential windows programs and services only
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Old 10-10-2009   #8 (permalink)


Vista Bussiness x64 PL
 
 

Re: windows update crash when downloading

This is stricly hardware issues - two examples from from your files -almost all says

"probably caused by ntoskrnl.exe" ->this is equivalent trouble with hardware

Quote:
Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt+fb978 )
+
Quote:
Probably caused by : hardware ( dxgkrnl+45e2e )
To diagnose everything PSU,motherboard,video card...
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Old 10-10-2009   #9 (permalink)


vista 64
 
 

Re: windows update crash when downloading

this is what i got from the link

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.11.0001.404 X86
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Loading Dump File [F:\Minidump\Mini100809-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available
Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
****************************************************************************
* Symbol loading may be unreliable without a symbol search path. *
* Use .symfix to have the debugger choose a symbol path. *
* After setting your symbol path, use .reload to refresh symbol locations. *
****************************************************************************
Executable search path is:
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Windows Server 2008/Windows Vista Kernel Version 6001 (Service Pack 1) MP (2 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Personal
Machine Name:
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`01c59000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`01e1edb0
Debug session time: Thu Oct 8 19:44:34.890 2009 (GMT-7)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:07:58.734
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
...............................................................
................................................................
.........
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
.....
*******************************************************************************
* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
*******************************************************************************
Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
BugCheck 50, {fffffb40fc008adb, 0, fffff80001d54978, 7}
***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt+fb978 )
Followup: MachineOwner
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Old 10-10-2009   #10 (permalink)


vista 64
 
 

Re: windows update crash when downloading

is there a program to download that can diagnose the problem, pardon me if you posted it already..
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