crash out of the blue (screen of death)

MarvinTheMartian

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Vista Pro
Well, there are a couple of topics here about this particular BSOD but every situation is different so I'll explain mine and update with progress in case it helps anyone else or if anyone else has advice on the best approach to take.

The system has been stable for some time but today while working in Excel I got an IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL 0A BSOD, rebooted and within 5 minutes got SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION 3B BSOD and now getting this repeatedly.

My best guess right now is that a stick of RAM has failed so have removed all but one 2GB stick and no crashes so far - will run some memory tests on each stick in turn tomorrow. I really hope that's all it is (& I can get it replaced under warranty!) and it's not a mobo fault. The BIOS did go into recovery mode when I tried to enter it, that's okay now but the raid 5 array is re-initialising as a result :mad:. The auto memory timings have never matched the spd (slower) but that never bothered me but I think I'll manually set to the stated timings of 4-4-4-12 depending on what the tests reveal.

Only real SW change apart from usual MS updates is I installed VMC TV Pack and USB wifi adapter a few days ago but I'd have expected to see this sooner if that was the cause. From what I've read a 3B is more likely hardware anyway?

So, any advice would be appreciated and a link to a memtest iso would be great - I'm busy backing up what data I can right now.

Cheers,

Marv
 
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Thanks mansrm81,

Have downloaded ISO for memtest86 and memtest86+ but neither will boot on my system :confused: It boots okay and runs tests fine on my laptop (the machine I used to burn the CD image) but just sits at "Loading.................." on the problem PC!

It's definitely reading the CD otherwise it wouldn't get to loading... So I'm stumped. Must be some incompatibility with the chipset perhaps? or could be dual screens - will try now with just one.

Anyway, the system is at least stable on the one stick of 2GB so will have to make do with that for now :rolleyes:

Cheers,

Marv
 

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    Me
    CPU
    Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP35DS4
    Memory
    8GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 CL4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
    Sound Card
    On board using DTS Connect
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    LG-L246WH 24" Widescreen + Acer 17" TFT
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    1 x 250GB WD SATA1
    4 x 500GB Segate 7200.11 SATA2 (RAID5)
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    Coolermaster 700w modular
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    Coolermaster Cosmos C-1000
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    Stock HS & Fan
Crucial Ballistix PC6400 CL4 RAM with a Gibabyte GAEP35DS4 Board and an E8400 Core 2 Duo did not get along in a system I built for someone.

First I had the Ballistix PC8500 / 1066Mhz 2G kit in it. It would not run stable @ 1066Mhz, so I down graded the memory to the PC6400 / 800Mhz 2G kit with which it ran fine for about 2 months then began exhibiting random blue screen crashes. Even when the system sat idle, the owner would come back to the unit looking at a BSOD.

I had to run MemTest over night before I could get the memory to finally fail, but fail it did.

When I took the defective memory back, I decided to try a different brand since Crucial's memory had failed twice. Even tweaking up the RAM voltage to Crucial spec and manually setting timings didn't help. It was time to try something different.

Since I put the PC6400 series Patriot brand memory in it 5 months ago, it has run fine.

After torturing the box with Prime95 for a couple of hours to warm it up, I ran MemTest on the Patriot memory for over 24 solid hours with no problems before I returned the unit to it's owner. They have not had any more problems.

Just my experience for what it's worth.
 

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Just my experience for what it's worth.

That's good information thanks. I've managed to get the Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool to work, still no idea why the others wouldn't but at least I can test now.

I've always used Corsair in the past and only went for Crucial because it was on the QVL might try Patriot though based on your experiences. Now to test each stick and find the faulty one!

Cheers,

Marv
 

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    Gigabyte EP35DS4
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    8GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 CL4
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    ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
    Sound Card
    On board using DTS Connect
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    LG-L246WH 24" Widescreen + Acer 17" TFT
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    1 x 250GB WD SATA1
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    Coolermaster 700w modular
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    Coolermaster Cosmos C-1000
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    Stock HS & Fan
MemTest 2.01+ should run on that P35 chipset. It ran on the subject machine I had the RAM problems with.

Perhaps with that system running OK with the one 2G stick, you could burn the MemTest iso on a CD with the target system. If then Memtest still does not run in the target machine with the one 2G stick, I'd say you have another issue with that build.

Just my humble opinion.
 

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    4GB OCZ Platinum OCZ3P13332GK
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    Gigabyte Radeon HD RX3850 775MHZ 512MB 1.4GHZ GDDR3
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    Dell SP2208WFP
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    Scythe Multi-Format Card Reader / Floppy Drive
The fact that WMD (I'm sure they came up with that acronym on purpose ;) ) runs I'm inclined to think that the CD-RW of the memtest iso is okay but will burn from target machine to be sure, will test each with WMD first though.

I really hope it's not a motherboard issue, they're much harder to prove when asking for a warranty replacement, plus it means completely rebuilding the system :(

Cheers,

Marv
 

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    Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP35DS4
    Memory
    8GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 CL4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
    Sound Card
    On board using DTS Connect
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG-L246WH 24" Widescreen + Acer 17" TFT
    Hard Drives
    1 x 250GB WD SATA1
    4 x 500GB Segate 7200.11 SATA2 (RAID5)
    PSU
    Coolermaster 700w modular
    Case
    Coolermaster Cosmos C-1000
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    Stock HS & Fan
Well, the system has been running fine on 1 stick of 2gb for a while, I did try 2x2 in dual channel but after a while another BSOD

I'm really kind of stuck with not being able to run any DOS based diag tools :(

Latest is that a drive has failed (in a raid5 array) so I've moved it to a spare port to test with SeaTools (another DOS based diag tool from boot CD) but SeaTools won't boot from CD either, just displays "FreeDOS" and goes no further.

I need a sanity check please, is there something in the BIOS that I'm overlooking that could possibly stop DOS from loading like this?

It's not that far fetched to have both a memory fault and a drive failure but I'd really like to have confidence that the mobo is at least sound.

Any help appreciated.

Marv.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Me
    CPU
    Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP35DS4
    Memory
    8GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 CL4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
    Sound Card
    On board using DTS Connect
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG-L246WH 24" Widescreen + Acer 17" TFT
    Hard Drives
    1 x 250GB WD SATA1
    4 x 500GB Segate 7200.11 SATA2 (RAID5)
    PSU
    Coolermaster 700w modular
    Case
    Coolermaster Cosmos C-1000
    Cooling
    Stock HS & Fan
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