Argggg... Drive corruption...

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richv

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Hey folks...

I'm new to Vista x64 (the op sys as well as this site). I have just endeavored to try out Vista 64 bit on one of my workstations. I run VMWare Workstation at work and can use the additional memory addressing of Vista 64 (I have 4 gigs of RAM).

Anyway, my problem is this.
1) I created another partition on my drive for Vista x64. (two other partitions running Vista x86).
2) I have been running dual boot with Vista for quite a while and it runs fine.
3) After creating the new partition and installing Vista x64 with SP1 (integrated service pack on install DVD), I get drive corruption problems all over the place.

I have 3 500 gigabyte Western Digital drives in this machine. The first is for operating system partitions and the second strictly for backup (using Acronis True Image) and the third for data.

The data drive seems to have problems reading when I attempt to install additional drivers for the x64 bit environment (just downloaded from the web). Also, I soon will get errors afterwards on the C drive also.

Thoughts?

I haven't damaged any data, as far as I can see and I simply reformat the parition and reinstall again to try another route. I have tried using Vista x64 (no sp1), Vista x64 with Sp1...

Same problem either way...
 

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Hi Richv,

64 bit and 32 bit do not play nice together. While you can use them together in a dual boot situation, you cannot share a partition for data for bot versions without having the problems you are having.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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The odd thing is that it isn't just the shared drives, but the C partition...

There are a bunch of installs on this machine... Are you saying that the entire install should be on a separate physical drive?

Currently:
Disk 0: Three partitions with separate installs of Vista. (on is the 64 bit install)

Disk 1: True Image backup partition and a small partition for backing up boot profiles wiht BCD.

Disk 2: Data drive. 500 gigs of miscellaneous storage of stuff...
 

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Oh no Rich. I had 64 bit Vista Ultimate on one partition and 32 bit Vista Home Premium on the other partition of the same hard drive. I would just keep files for each OS on Disk 2 on separate partitions.

Shawn
 

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Brink,

are you saying that Vista x64 and XP32 can't read and write to the same data disk, non operating disk, without corruption problems?

thanks

sportsguy
 

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Hi Sportsguy,

I have noticed most people will have problems when a single data drive partition is shared by two different type of OS's like a 64 bit and 32 bit. I just prefer to keep the data disk split into a separate partition for each OS to avoid a potential problem all together. This is the main reason why Microsoft requires a clean install when you go from a 32 bit version of Vista to it's 64 bit version, or the other way around.

Shawn
 

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Hmmmm (insert look of me scratching my head in deep, puzzled thought). The problem isn't just the data drives, but the actual C drive (which is a separate partition).

Now, I did access the data drive for device driver installs and such. Are you saying that simply accessing another partition would cause this corruption! From what I can see, none of the data has been damaged on the data partitions, probably because this was not a write operation.

Anyway, I had another comment that this may be related to 4 gigs of RAM rather than drive formats!

The other individual recommended reducing the RAM temporarily to 2 gigs, performing the install and then, after stability occurs, upgrade back to 4 gigs of RAM.

Seems rather a huge hole for 64bit OS adoption! The reason I want to go is a) it is the future and b) TO USE MY 4 GIGS OF MEMORY!!!!

(as I whack my head against the wall).

Thanks for the input folks!
 

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Richv,

I would separate the data drives into separate partitions and not have the 32 bit and 64 bit versions cross paths to be safe.

Some folks do not have a problem with the 4 gigs of RAM at installiion. If not, then that is when you will have to use 2 gigs until the 64 bit is installed. Sometimes having the latest BIOS installed helps avoid this. It is a bit quirky until all the pieces are together. :zip:

Shawn
 

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Try this on for size. I have a 500GB USB hard drive. It is formatted in NTFS. When I plug the drive into my Vista x64 PC several files appear to be corrupted. If I take the same drive an plug it into a XP 32 or Vista 32 machine everything appears fine.

It appears the Microsoft may have got something wrong in the NTFS file system for Vista x64.

I will use a share from another machine for now. I will try to code up a corruption demonstration and submit a bug.
 

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that is exactly what i needed to know. The files are not corrupted on a shared drive, they appear corrupted to the other operating system. Therefore, my 500 G mirrored RAID can have an xp32 folder and an x64 folder, and each will appear normal to the appropriate operating system.

This does make sense as a 32 bit app internal file format can be different than a 64 bit file. .

sportsguy
 

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The corruption seems to be in the disk access code for Vista x64. Since the Hard Drive plugs into USB, I can move it from system to system and everything appears to be fine under the 32-bit operating systems.

For now I am not going to really save anything using Vista 64 becasue it is more than likely corrupt.
 

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:rolleyes: Well it appears that the external USB drive was corrupted and XP/Vista 32 did not spot it. I just plugged it into a Windows Server 2008 32-bit system and it automatically ran chkdsk. Once it was corrected all operatingg systems see it fine. At this point there is no way to trace down the error since I cannot reproduce

:DThe drive appears to be good so I am happy. My suggestion is to run "chkdsk -r" under vista 32 and see if things correct themselves.:cool:
 

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was the USB drive first formatted by VISTA 64 or XP 32? that might make a difference

sportsguy
 

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