Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid of it

xringx

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Its never been there before, and now it its. To make matters more interesting, it has an exclamation mark on it. When I click it, it says check for new definitions. I do, it comes up with nothing, but the exclamation point stays..

Whats up with that?


Thanks
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

Reboot your machine and see if it can get its updates....
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

Hello,

Thanks for the reply. I have rebooted my machine many, many times since this has happened.

Any other thoughts?
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

Obviosuly something is preventing it from getting updates. Have you checked Windows Updates to see if there is a corresponding update to around the same time this started happening?
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

You can to Local Group Policy click Computer Configuration and then the Windows Components tab (Under the computer config tab, not user) Then scroll down to Windows Defender, and enable Turn on definition updates through both WSUS and Windows Update.

See if that helps. You can also disable it and use another anti-virus.

I recommend Avira or avast.
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

I am using Avira... its the same thing as Defender??? Didnt know that...
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

I am using Avira... its the same thing as Defender??? Didnt know that...

Its not the same, but it does the same job defender does except better ;)
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

I am using Avira... its the same thing as Defender??? Didnt know that...

Avira is an antivirus on top of being antispyware. Defender is just antispyware, and Avira does a better job at detecting/removing malware IMO.

(Yay, 1st post, and I'm happy to be here. :D)
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

Yeah, I have a similar problem with Defender, i.e. exclamation mark, trying to update seems to do nothing. I have a strong notion to just deactivate it! Currently I'm running AVG 8...that should handle all my Internet intrusions, shouldn't it?
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

If you have an anti-virus that can handle both viruses & malicious software, you can disable Windows Defender. (Well, I did anyways, and I hadn't had any problems. (yet))
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

I use SEP 11 and it automatically disabled Defender.
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

If you use free version of Avira it does NOT have spyware protection.

Avira AntiVir Personal - FREE Antivirus
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

Thanks Axon, besides I'm only a dial-up user, so the chances of me getting bogged down with unwanted intruders is much slimmer than most!
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

my product did the same and i use vodafone modem for my interent and only get 2g so not mutch goes into my system does make updates along time tough :mad:
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

Its never been there before, and now it its. To make matters more interesting, it has an exclamation mark on it. When I click it, it says check for new definitions. I do, it comes up with nothing, but the exclamation point stays..

Whats up with that?


Thanks
Hi there xringx
I had the same problem. Defender was showing in the system tray with the exclamation point. Lately, I see Defender updates in Windows Update and there is no Defender icon to accompany it. In the Windows Update history, I have about 30 updates since April all of them under KB915597.
Do you have Defender updates in your Windows Update history?
Anyway, try this MS KB article on troubleshooting Defender updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918355
Get the updates direct and download them from
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx
It worked for me so good luck !
Let us know.....
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

Hi,
same problem here... I did not think of downloading the update separately because the dumb thing kept saying there were no updates needed. That exclamation point was just too annoying!!! I think this worked, at least for now the thing vanished.. shall see tomorrow. For now, I thank you for your idea. ciao
 

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Re: Windows Defender tray icon just popped up w/ exclamation point and cant get rid o

For the first time the same phenom showed up for me yesterday... exclamation point-ridden icon would not go away; opening it to click to initiate a definitions update produced a "none available" message. Over and over. Yet the defs on file were more than two weeks old. Looked to me like newer ones had failed to make it into my machine.

I write this to reconfirm that the basics of a solution contributed earlier in this forum have fixed the problem (for now at least). I used - and kept - this link to MS itself

How to manually download the latest definition updates for Windows Defender

On that page go to the directions for either 32 or 64 bit Vista (whichever you have) and there's a download link for the current defs installer. You save it onboard, then run it.

After the install, run a full scan with Defender and that's the fix. The defs installer can be discarded.

BTW, I have run both Defender and Avast without conflict from day one of this laptop. Not really 100% sure but I do think it's good to have both Defender and a separate always-on antivirus. (The laptop came with the bloatware Norton antivirus on it.) I think that each can pick up some malware items the other won't.
 
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