Customer Service Nightmares

I stopped bothering with customer service departments about a decade ago.
 

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Customer service seems to be a joke (on us) these days.

Gary
 

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    Dell XPS420
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    Intel Core2 Quad Q6600
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    Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400
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    NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
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    Creative SB X-Fi
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    HP w2207 + HPvs15
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    1680x1050 + 1024x768
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    2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
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    Microsoft Comfort Curve
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    MX Revolution
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Same, never use it -

Who need customer service when we've got the brilliant people here to help sort things when it all goes to pot.
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    system1 (system2)
    CPU
    q9650 3ghz (i7 920)
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    Asus p5q deluxe (p6t deluxe)
    Memory
    16gb ddr2 (12gb ddr3)
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    Nvidia 8800GTS 640mb (285gtx 1gb)
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    on board
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    Eizo CG301w, Dell 2407
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    2560 x 1600 + 1920 x1200
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    Raptor 74gb,
    Raptor 150gb,
    500gb x2,
    320gb,
    750gb
    (raptor 150gb, 2x 500gb)
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    ocz 600w (ocz750w)
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    coolermaster stacker (coolermaster 690)
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    many fans
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    apple slim aluminum jobbie
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    intellimouse
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    2mb
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    Wacom A3 tablet, Epson 3800
I agree. Ring them up, sometimes free, sometimes have to pay Premium Rate! Automated message saying "Your call is important to us. Please wait.". This repeats several times, interspersed with annoying 'music'. When you get through, another automated message giving options, usually too quickly to enable you to register which one you should select. Finally, after another delay (because you have not made a selection) and some more 'music', you are finally put through to an operator at a call centre. These call centres are usually situated in India and other countries in that region. This provides more problems as we have difficulty in understanding what they say and they have the same difficulty in understanding us. No disrespect meant to those members (and visitors) of the forums who come from the Indian sub-continent and can understand the way that they talk, but it would be far preferable to speak to someone in a call centre in your OWN country, regardless of whereabouts in the world you are. By the time that they have understood your query and, likewise, you their response (after having to repeat both several times to make sure), you finally realise that the information you required was there in front of you all the time. Your manual and the Internet (Google, Yahoo!, etc) are generally all you need as someone else has probably already had your problem (or a very similar one) and has found the answer.
 

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    Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 r09/2013
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    Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.2GHz)
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    ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
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    4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
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    MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
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    Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
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    ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    OCZ Agility 3 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
    Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
    Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
    Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
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    XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
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    Gigabyte IF233
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    1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
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    Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
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    Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
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    NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2)
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    Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
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I personally would like to thank customer service. I figured out long ago that they were going thru a manual step by step. Don't skip to what your problem is because they won't hear you and just go to the next step. Because of this long ago before everything was outsourced to India, I began to repair and upgrade my own computer. This led to working on friends and family computers, and finally I took the plunge and started building system for friends and family. Without the lack of quality customer support that is out there, I probable would not be able to do what I can now.
 

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I agree with Dwarf it's a nightmare over here to call any company regardless of who it is plus they always use numbers that cost a fortune to call, so of course they have too many options to go through which just adds to the cost.

I will say though that the help line for my new Vista machine, although having options to use, is very quick and the 2 times I've phoned them, which was before I even got the machine, I spoke to a very nice man who was actually in my country and spoke my native language.
I only phoned to clear up some points in relation to my purchase ;)
 

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    Windows 10 Home
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    HP Envy x360 Convertible 15-bq0xx
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    AMD A9 Stoney Ridge Technology
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    HP 8312 (Socket FP4)
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    8.00GB Dual-Channel Unknown (?-0-0-0)
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    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) 512MB ATI AMD Radeon R5
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    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Aud
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    Generic PnP Monitor on AMD Radeon R5 Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    119GB SanDisk SD8SN8U-128G-1006 (SSD)
    931GB Hitachi HGST HTS721010A9E630 (SATA
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    Standard PS/2 Keyboard
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    Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse
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    62.86Mbps down 18.19Mbps up
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    EPSON78D0CF (XP-332 335 Series) (Default Printer)

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    * BFK Customs *
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    Intel C2Q 9550 Yorkfield
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    ASUS P5Q Pro
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    8GB Dominator 8500C5D
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    XFX ATI 1GB 4870 XXX
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    Realtek HD 7-1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1x 47" LCD HDMI & 2x 26" LCD HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080P & 1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    2x 500GB 7200RPM 32MB Cache WD Caviar Black
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    Corsair 620HX
    Case
    CM Cosmos RC-1000
    Cooling
    Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    HP Enhansed Multimedia
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    Razer Diamondback 3G
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    18.6Mb/s
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    My First Build ;)
I called a centre of OC uk and was very happy with the response. My PSU had blown up(sparks and everything), they had a coureir the next day, got it to the factory and 3 days later after testing I had a brand new one from manufacturer. It depends on what your problem is as to how the call centre works. Another call centre I called we shall call it Talk Talk, managed to miss sell me something and totally muck up my account. It took five phone calls to sort it out and cancell the offer that was miss sold.
 

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    Self Built
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    I5 3570K
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    Gigabyte Z77-DS3H
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    4 x 4GB corsair ballistix sport DDR3 1600 Mhz
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    Gigabyte Geforce GTX 660 TI
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    creative x-fi
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    Primary CiBox 22" Widescreen LCD ,Secondary Dell 22" Widescreen
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    Both 1680 x 1050
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    2 x 500G HD (SATA) 1 x 2TB USB
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    Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU
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    Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
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    3 x 80mm tri led front, 120mm side 120mm back, 200mm top
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    Logik
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    Technika TKOPTM2
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    288 / 4000
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    Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
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Customer service should be a given. Because it's one of the main selling points of businesses these days (banks, etc) it is definitely something they lack. Customer service suffers when employees become faceless entities.

The best customer service - the type that should be copied and supported - is found at your local shops (butcher, baker, candlestick maker).
 

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    Built by Centrecom (Bendigo)
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    Core 2 Quad 6600
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    Gigabyte EP45-DS3 (Bios F5)
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    8Gb Corsair 6400-C5 (4x2Gb)
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    Sapphire HD4850
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    Realtek HD (onboard)
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    Samsung 22" 2232BW
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    1680x1050
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    640Gb Western Digital SATA II + 500Gb Maxtor External
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    CoolerMaster 650W
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    Antec Three Hundred
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    Heaps of fans...some glow red
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    An old MS multimedia
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    Logitech MX518
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    Dial-up
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I regularly speak with customer service centers in India and I don't have a problem with their understanding what I say or with my understanding what they say, okay their accents can be different to those of say native Londoners or New Yorkers but accents and the ability to speak a language are completly different things. I am not making any criticism of any of the posters here, because it is very possible they have spoken to a call center in India or another foreign country, were the staff were not fluent in the English language but I have been on other forums and the posters have been complaining about the staff being unable to speak English and I have spoken to the same customer service center myself and had no problem understanding what they are saying and them understanding what I was saying. On the other hand, the fact that a service might be staffed by persons for whom English is a first language, is no guarantee that one will not receive rude, unhelpful and downright aggressive treatment although a fantasy that an in-country service center would automatically provide good service is often presented as fact when criticism is being made of outsourced and in particular Indian based call centers. As for the idea, that the local trader will give good service, it is entirely possible that they will and it is entirely possible that they will not.

Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer
 

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    self build desktop PC
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    AMD Athlon 64 4800 dual core Toledo 2.4 gigahertz
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    Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
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    4 x 1 Gigabyte sticks
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    Gainward 7600GT Golden Sample factory overclocked
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    Realtek onboard sound AC-97
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    View Sonic G90B 19 inch CRT [ 17.7 visible ]
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    1600 x 900
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    Hitachi HDT725032VLA36 quantity 4
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    Cooler Master Stacker
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    Thematalke Big Typhoon air cooling
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    Mitsumi
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    Microsoft Intelli mouse optical tracking
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    3.6 Mbps HSDPA
Best customer service I had was from NCsoft.

Worst is our ISP etisalat. I have to keep in the line for 30~45Mins till they answer my call. Crazy isn't it?
 

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  • CPU
    Q6600 OCed till 3.3Ghz
    Motherboard
    Nvidia XFX nForce 780i SLI
    Memory
    2X2GB Corsair DDR2 800Mhz OCed @ 820Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2xNvidia 9500 GT SLI OCed @ 730Mhz each.
    Sound Card
    Motherboard Built in
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    Acer 22' LCD + 18.5 Wide Samsung LCD
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    1680 1050
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    Internal 2x250 GB SATA II Maxtor,
    External 500GB SATA WD,
    PSU
    600Watts
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    GIGABYTE
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    GIGABYTE Volar CPU Cooler
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    Samsung Pleomax
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    Prestigio
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    2Mbps
I think I agree with the consensus here and will normally manage to solve any problems myself using the internet.

When I have to speak to someone, if for example I have solved the problem and have to arrange a replacement item of hardware, what really annoys me is the person on the other end of the line who will not listen and just reads their script.

They refuse to listen to you and the fact that you probably have a little bit more experience than they do and have already checked the basics.

I can support Roy69 in his experience with Talk Talk :mad:, ( or should that be Talk , Don't Listen), who kept me on the line for an hour at a clients to arrange replacement of a "DEAD" modem. I eventually escalated the call explained to the supervisor the tests I'd completed, ( took about 1 minute ), gave the delivery details and received the replacement in two days, So I'd just say to anyone starting out in the support business "use your ears first"

OK rant over :D:D
 

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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Latest Release Preview
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    2 x 1920x1080 @50Hz
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    Real World Computers (Custom by Me)
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    AMD FX8350 Vishera 8 Core @4GHz
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    Asus M5A78L-M USB3
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    32GB [4x8GB] DDR3 1600 MHz
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    Asus nVidia GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 (2GB DDR5)
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    ASUS Xoner DG + SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI
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    Samsung 32" TV
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    1920 x 1080
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    Internal
    Crucial CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SSD,
    Seagate ST2000DM001-1CH1 2TB,

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    Seagate Backup+ Hub BK SCSI Disk 8TB
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    NAS 4TB
    PSU
    Aerocool Templarius Imperator 750W 80+ Silver
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    AeroCool X-Warrior Red Devil Tower
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    Hyper103 CPU, Rear 120mm, Front 2x120mm, Side 2x120mm
    Internet Speed
    68 MB Down 18.5 MB Up
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    Six Sensor Auto / Manual Digital cooling (Fan) control with Touch control Panel
That is so true Nigel, you can just imagine them sitting there reading away while you try to explain things to them, nothing will deter them :huh:

I'm glad I've not had to talk to TalkTalk as they took over my landline buying out Onetel, still a damn site cheaper than BT though ;)
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
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    HP Envy x360 Convertible 15-bq0xx
    CPU
    AMD A9 Stoney Ridge Technology
    Motherboard
    HP 8312 (Socket FP4)
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel Unknown (?-0-0-0)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) 512MB ATI AMD Radeon R5
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Aud
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor on AMD Radeon R5 Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    119GB SanDisk SD8SN8U-128G-1006 (SSD)
    931GB Hitachi HGST HTS721010A9E630 (SATA
    Keyboard
    Standard PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse
    Internet Speed
    62.86Mbps down 18.19Mbps up
    Other Info
    EPSON78D0CF (XP-332 335 Series) (Default Printer)
Yes Joan,

We have quite a few IT Call centres in the area and so you see the job adverts with "No Experience Required", "full training will be given" A basic technician course will take at least 6 months, not the couple of days that these poor saps receive. I'm sure the first line people answering the calls are well meaning but if they won't listen, are not properly trained, and therefore take too long to transfer to someone who can help, even on a freephone call, time is money. :mad:

As for Talk Talk all I can advise is if you do ever have to deal with the help line find yourself a comfy seat, a nice cup of tea, (or a G&T) and prepare for a long chat :D you obviously have a good deal of patience with your cross stitching I'm afraid you'll probably need it
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Latest Release Preview
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer G276HL 27", (DVi) + Samsung 39" HDTV (HDMI)
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 1920x1080 @50Hz
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    Real World Computers (Custom by Me)
    CPU
    AMD FX8350 Vishera 8 Core @4GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus M5A78L-M USB3
    Memory
    32GB [4x8GB] DDR3 1600 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus nVidia GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 (2GB DDR5)
    Sound Card
    ASUS Xoner DG + SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" TV
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Internal
    Crucial CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SSD,
    Seagate ST2000DM001-1CH1 2TB,

    External (USB3)
    Seagate Backup+ Hub BK SCSI Disk 8TB
    2.5/3.5 Hot Swap Cradle, USB3 + eSata (client HDDs)
    NAS 4TB
    PSU
    Aerocool Templarius Imperator 750W 80+ Silver
    Case
    AeroCool X-Warrior Red Devil Tower
    Cooling
    Hyper103 CPU, Rear 120mm, Front 2x120mm, Side 2x120mm
    Internet Speed
    68 MB Down 18.5 MB Up
    Other Info
    Six Sensor Auto / Manual Digital cooling (Fan) control with Touch control Panel
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