Solved Need advice on an old PC with XP

MrInferno

New Member
So here's the deal, I have this old Dell Dimension 2350 which is still using the older Windows XP operating system. I have an antivirus, antimalware, etc but I just don't feel safe anymore using XP. I was thinking about installing Windows Vista on this PC, but I wasn't sure if it would run good enough seeing as it is older hardware. Here are the main specifications of the Dimension: Intel P4 2.4ghz (Northwood), 2GB DDR ram, 250GB IDE HDD, 82845G Graphics Controller. Is Windows Vista the way to go with this system or should I install a different version of windows (7/8/10)?
 

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VFN

Member
Download and run Microsoft's Vista Upgrade Advisor. It's here.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 546
    CPU
    Sempron LE-1300
    Memory
    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache

townsbg

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Vista Guru
Gold Member
You should get more ram if you want to upgrade the OS and at this point if I where you I would go with 7 or higher. Major software manufacturers are starting to drop support for Vista. Not only that but Vista has barely less than a year to go for support from Microsoft. :( Unfortunately there aren't any drivers for anything higher than XP so if you upgrade you could experience problems.
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt

Jody Thornton

Power User
So here's the deal, I have this old Dell Dimension 2350 which is still using the older Windows XP operating system. I have an antivirus, antimalware, etc but I just don't feel safe anymore using XP. I was thinking about installing Windows Vista on this PC, but I wasn't sure if it would run good enough seeing as it is older hardware. Here are the main specifications of the Dimension: Intel P4 2.4ghz (Northwood), 2GB DDR ram, 250GB IDE HDD, 82845G Graphics Controller. Is Windows Vista the way to go with this system or should I install a different version of windows (7/8/10)?

You posted a similar question on the Windows 7 forums, and even though I'm a much bigger fan of Vista, I will say one thing for Windows 7 and 8x: they both run much much better in RAM restricted environments (1 or 2 GB of RAM) than Vista does. I would say Vista REQUIRES 2 GB to really shine. Admittedly it's a pig. Besides, I find the x86 version of Vista sluggish.

So I would recommend either the 32-bit version of Windows 7, 8.1 or 10. I don't think you want a different OS do you? (I was judging from the Linux recommendations you got on the Windows 7 Forums). What is it you're hoping to do with your system? you never really mentioned that yet. That will help judge if your system can swing it.
:)
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 8 Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP xw8600 Workstation
    CPU
    Two Intel Xeon Core2 Quad 3.2 GHz Processors
    Motherboard
    Proprietary
    Memory
    16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI-E
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1200
    Hard Drives
    Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
    PSU
    Proprietary
    Case
    HP xw8600 Workstation Case
    Cooling
    Two CPU Fans and One Larger Cooling Fan
    Mouse
    Microsoft USB Optical Mouse
    Keyboard
    PS/2 Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    7 mbps
    Other Info
    Storage Interface: Two LSI 3000 SAS Adapters
    Browser: Waterfox G3.0.2 (based on Firefox ESR 78.6)

VFN

Member
I will say one thing for Windows 7 and 8x: they both run much much better in RAM restricted environments (1 or 2 GB of RAM) than Vista does.

I ran the upgrade advisor for 7 a while back and it said I didn't have enough RAM. I have 2 GB but with an integrated graphics card. Are you saying 7 would run better on my x64 than Vista? If so maybe I should upgrade. Thanks.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 546
    CPU
    Sempron LE-1300
    Memory
    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache

townsbg

~~тσωηsвg~~
Vista Guru
Gold Member
IMO 2 gb is barely enough for either but if you are sharing memory with integrated graphics that leaves even less for your programs. Therefore it is my recommendation that you get more ram; your system will show to a crawl if you don't have enough. To answer your question it is my experience that 7 is a little better on memory management. On my desktop I only had 2 gb but I wouldn't do that now.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt

Jody Thornton

Power User
I ran the upgrade advisor for 7 a while back and it said I didn't have enough RAM. I have 2 GB but with an integrated graphics card. Are you saying 7 would run better on my x64 than Vista? If so maybe I should upgrade. Thanks.

I would agree with that yes. Though running the x86 versions might give you a tad better mileage. How much memory are you setting aside for the video memory?
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 8 Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP xw8600 Workstation
    CPU
    Two Intel Xeon Core2 Quad 3.2 GHz Processors
    Motherboard
    Proprietary
    Memory
    16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI-E
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1200
    Hard Drives
    Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
    PSU
    Proprietary
    Case
    HP xw8600 Workstation Case
    Cooling
    Two CPU Fans and One Larger Cooling Fan
    Mouse
    Microsoft USB Optical Mouse
    Keyboard
    PS/2 Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    7 mbps
    Other Info
    Storage Interface: Two LSI 3000 SAS Adapters
    Browser: Waterfox G3.0.2 (based on Firefox ESR 78.6)

VFN

Member
IMO 2 gb is barely enough for either but if you are sharing memory with integrated graphics that leaves even less for your programs. Therefore it is my recommendation that you get more ram; your system will show to a crawl if you don't have enough. To answer your question it is my experience that 7 is a little better on memory management. On my desktop I only had 2 gb but I wouldn't do that now.

Are you saying I'd be better off with 7?

I would agree with that yes. Though running the x86 versions might give you a tad better mileage. How much memory are you setting aside for the video memory?

From what I remember from the upgrade advisor it's a half or quarter gig. I remember wondering why it was telling me I lacked RAM until I realized my graphics card was integrated.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 546
    CPU
    Sempron LE-1300
    Memory
    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache

townsbg

~~тσωηsвg~~
Vista Guru
Gold Member
I'm saying that either will seem slow unless you get more memory especially if a half gig is going to video.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt

VFN

Member
I'm saying that either will seem slow unless you get more memory especially if a half gig is going to video.

Okay but it seems like you're saying 7 would be better as far as RAM is concerned.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 546
    CPU
    Sempron LE-1300
    Memory
    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache

Jody Thornton

Power User
Yes it would, but I would use the 32-bit version. Executables use a smaller word-length and therefore less memory than their 64-bit equivalents.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 8 Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP xw8600 Workstation
    CPU
    Two Intel Xeon Core2 Quad 3.2 GHz Processors
    Motherboard
    Proprietary
    Memory
    16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI-E
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1200
    Hard Drives
    Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
    PSU
    Proprietary
    Case
    HP xw8600 Workstation Case
    Cooling
    Two CPU Fans and One Larger Cooling Fan
    Mouse
    Microsoft USB Optical Mouse
    Keyboard
    PS/2 Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    7 mbps
    Other Info
    Storage Interface: Two LSI 3000 SAS Adapters
    Browser: Waterfox G3.0.2 (based on Firefox ESR 78.6)

townsbg

~~тσωηsвg~~
Vista Guru
Gold Member
Yes it would however for potentially only 1.5 gb XP would be best. But if you do upgrade try to keep at any one time to a minimum or your system will seem really slow.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt

VFN

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Vista came with my machine and I can't say I've ever felt things were slow. My only real complaint is that I can't play certain games but that's to be expected with my specs. I was given Windows 7 x64 upgrade disks when I bought my PC but I didn't think I really had a reason to upgrade outside of losing Chrome in April but you guys think I'd be better off with 7? Maybe I should upgrade. Thanks for the replies BTW.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 546
    CPU
    Sempron LE-1300
    Memory
    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache

townsbg

~~тσωηsвg~~
Vista Guru
Gold Member
I think you need more ram.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 &1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-elite-hpe-250f/
  • Operating System
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Poweredge T140
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt

VFN

Member
Okay, thanks.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 546
    CPU
    Sempron LE-1300
    Memory
    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache

MrInferno

New Member
Sorry for late reply guys, I ended up going with Linux. It's running well on this older system, thank you for the suggestions though. To answer the question of, "What will you be using the system for?". This system is only going to be used for very basic tasks, some browsing etc. It's more of like a, living room pc. Nothing too complex for the old pc.
 

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