Is there any advantage to using one or the other? Does one work better on Linux?
I'm making a cheap computer to run Smoothwall and just wanted to see.
I'm making a cheap computer to run Smoothwall and just wanted to see.
AMD or Intel?
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thepizzaman
Banned
if you want cheap..... AMD..... and right now they are doing reasonable well for $ for performance...... but if you just like blowing money.... intel... haha but amd will get you the performance you want :D
My Computer
System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- Acer, Aspire M1201\Custom Build
- CPU
- AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz
- Motherboard
- Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard
- Memory
- 2x2gb Patriot Viper DDR2 PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel SLI Edition (4-4-4-12)
- Graphics Card(s)
- ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4
- Sound Card
- Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 22" Acer X223 Widescreen
- Screen Resolution
- 1680 X 1050
- Hard Drives
- 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium)
- PSU
- ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular
- Case
- NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans
- Cooling
- 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm On GPU
- Keyboard
- Microsoft Sidewinder X6
- Mouse
- Microsoft Sidewinder X5
- Internet Speed
- 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up
- Other Info
- AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound
Hello Simfan,
AMD was good as the gaming CPU once, right now the Intel is the way to go. Intel outperforms AMD and at the same time saves energy. In games the more important is good graphic card. Take decent card from Nvidia or ATI.
AMD was good as the gaming CPU once, right now the Intel is the way to go. Intel outperforms AMD and at the same time saves energy. In games the more important is good graphic card. Take decent card from Nvidia or ATI.
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System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- Gateway P7805u FX
- CPU
- Intel Core2Duo T9600 2.80GHz 1066MHz FSB
- Motherboard
- Intel PM45
- Memory
- 8GB 1066MHz DDR3
- Graphics Card(s)
- Nvidia GeForce 9800M GTS 1GB DDR3
- Monitor(s) Displays
- LG 17" WUXGA TFT
- Screen Resolution
- 1920x 1200
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- WD 2x500GB
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- notebook
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- BT/BD
thepizzaman
Banned
no intel doesn't in all cases..... the Phenom II 965 out preforms the I7 920 in games.....
My Computer
System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- Acer, Aspire M1201\Custom Build
- CPU
- AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz
- Motherboard
- Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard
- Memory
- 2x2gb Patriot Viper DDR2 PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel SLI Edition (4-4-4-12)
- Graphics Card(s)
- ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4
- Sound Card
- Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 22" Acer X223 Widescreen
- Screen Resolution
- 1680 X 1050
- Hard Drives
- 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium)
- PSU
- ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular
- Case
- NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans
- Cooling
- 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm On GPU
- Keyboard
- Microsoft Sidewinder X6
- Mouse
- Microsoft Sidewinder X5
- Internet Speed
- 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up
- Other Info
- AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound
if your looking for a reasonably priced mid range all rounder the Core i5 750 Intel is now on general retail release , look it up ive just a built a system for a friend incorporating one of these and its a good performer.......he wont let me overclock it though the spoil sport , ill have to wait to find somebody more gullible ..........
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System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- Custom Build
- CPU
- Intel Q9550 @ 4Gig / Titan Fenir
- Motherboard
- XFX 780i
- Memory
- 4GB OCZ PC2-8500C5 DDR2
- Graphics Card(s)
- Gainward GTX260/216 SLI
- Sound Card
- Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer
- Monitor(s) Displays
- Dell UltraSharp 2209WA 22"
- Screen Resolution
- 1680x1050
- Hard Drives
- western digital raptor 10000rpm sata
- PSU
- OCZ Modstream 700w
- Cooling
- Titan Fenir
- Keyboard
- Razer Reclusa
- Mouse
- Logitech G5 Gamer
- Internet Speed
- 8mb
z3r010
Staff member
If your just running smoothwall then all you want is the cheapest chip you can find, forget about whats better, for smoothwall it would make no difference.
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System One System Two
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- Operating System
- Windows 11 Workstation
- Manufacturer/Model
- doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
- CPU
- Ryzen 9 5950X
- Motherboard
- Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
- Memory
- Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
- Graphics Card(s)
- ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
- Sound Card
- Creative
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
- Hard Drives
- Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
Drive
- PSU
- 1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
- Case
- ThermalTake Level 10 GT
- Cooling
- Enermax Liqtech 240
- Keyboard
- Surface Ergonomic.
- Mouse
- Logitech Performance MX
- Internet Speed
- 350 Mb/s
- Other Info
- WinTV NovaTD
HP CP1515n Color Laser
Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
APC 750i Smart UPS
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- Operating System
- windows 10
- Manufacturer/Model
- Surface Pro 3
- CPU
- 1.9GHz Intel Core i5-4300U (dual-core, 3MB cache, up to 2.9GHz with Turbo Boost)
- Memory
- 4GB
- Graphics card(s)
- Intel HD Graphics 4400
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 12" Multi Touch
- Screen Resolution
- 2160 x 144
- Hard Drives
- 128GB
- Mouse
- Logitech
- Keyboard
- yes
- Internet Speed
- 350 Mb/s
They are both the same price. I was just wondering if there was an advantage.
My Computer
thepizzaman
Banned
um...... the people at AMD arn't crooks 
My Computer
System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- Acer, Aspire M1201\Custom Build
- CPU
- AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz
- Motherboard
- Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard
- Memory
- 2x2gb Patriot Viper DDR2 PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel SLI Edition (4-4-4-12)
- Graphics Card(s)
- ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4
- Sound Card
- Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 22" Acer X223 Widescreen
- Screen Resolution
- 1680 X 1050
- Hard Drives
- 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium)
- PSU
- ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular
- Case
- NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans
- Cooling
- 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm On GPU
- Keyboard
- Microsoft Sidewinder X6
- Mouse
- Microsoft Sidewinder X5
- Internet Speed
- 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up
- Other Info
- AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound
calhounhusker
Power User
x2. In all reality, find an old Pentium III to run smoothwall. As long as the computer turns on, it will run it just as well as anything else.
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um...... the people at AMD arn't crooks
Correct, most of them are not competent enough to be crooks, or make a good cpu for that matter.
My Computer
thepizzaman
Banned
oh their cpu's are plenty good...... they just know how to not make the good ones cost you a fortuneum...... the people at AMD arn't crooks
Correct, most of them are not competent enough to be crooks, or make a good cpu for that matter.
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Acer, Aspire M1201\Custom Build
- CPU
- AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz
- Motherboard
- Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard
- Memory
- 2x2gb Patriot Viper DDR2 PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel SLI Edition (4-4-4-12)
- Graphics Card(s)
- ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4
- Sound Card
- Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 22" Acer X223 Widescreen
- Screen Resolution
- 1680 X 1050
- Hard Drives
- 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium)
- PSU
- ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular
- Case
- NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans
- Cooling
- 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm On GPU
- Keyboard
- Microsoft Sidewinder X6
- Mouse
- Microsoft Sidewinder X5
- Internet Speed
- 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up
- Other Info
- AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound
Frostmourne
Banned
As of right now, AMD cpu's are pointless. Intel are faster and provider better performance than a broken X2 550 or 250 or quad core.. Go for an Intel E5200.
My Computer
System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- Sony Vaio Z46GDU
- CPU
- [email protected] w/6MB L2 cache 1066MHz FSB
- Memory
- 6GB DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM
- Graphics Card(s)
- 9300M GS 256MB + Intel Integrated 4500MHD
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 13.1" WXGA True Colour Tough
- Screen Resolution
- 1600x900
- Hard Drives
- 320GB SATA 7200RPM
- Internet Speed
- 1MB/s
thepizzaman
Banned
they are not pointless........ 
they may be just a tad slower than your E8400...... (not your E5200... your dreamin dude) but there is a $100 price difference between the two.....
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts/AVG-Anti-Virus-8.5.287,1381.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts/benchmarks,60.html
they may be just a tad slower than your E8400...... (not your E5200... your dreamin dude) but there is a $100 price difference between the two.....http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts/AVG-Anti-Virus-8.5.287,1381.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts/benchmarks,60.html
My Computer
System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- Acer, Aspire M1201\Custom Build
- CPU
- AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz
- Motherboard
- Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard
- Memory
- 2x2gb Patriot Viper DDR2 PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel SLI Edition (4-4-4-12)
- Graphics Card(s)
- ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4
- Sound Card
- Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 22" Acer X223 Widescreen
- Screen Resolution
- 1680 X 1050
- Hard Drives
- 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium)
- PSU
- ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular
- Case
- NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans
- Cooling
- 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm On GPU
- Keyboard
- Microsoft Sidewinder X6
- Mouse
- Microsoft Sidewinder X5
- Internet Speed
- 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up
- Other Info
- AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound
Frostmourne
Banned
they are not pointless........
Charts, benchmarks 2009 Desktop CPU Charts, AVG Anti-Virus 8.5.287
Benchmarks 2009 Desktop CPU Charts
I was recommending the E5200. I never buy budget processors, and AMD cpu's choke on current games even at 1900x1200. They don't overclock well ether.
My Computer
System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- Sony Vaio Z46GDU
- CPU
- [email protected] w/6MB L2 cache 1066MHz FSB
- Memory
- 6GB DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM
- Graphics Card(s)
- 9300M GS 256MB + Intel Integrated 4500MHD
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 13.1" WXGA True Colour Tough
- Screen Resolution
- 1600x900
- Hard Drives
- 320GB SATA 7200RPM
- Internet Speed
- 1MB/s
thepizzaman
Banned
they Phenom II 965 doesn't overclock well? i mean..... pulling a whole ghz overclock on air? thats not overclocking well? and pullin 2+ on watercooling? thats not overclocking well? what are you lookin at? stuff from 2002? 
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Acer, Aspire M1201\Custom Build
- CPU
- AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz
- Motherboard
- Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard
- Memory
- 2x2gb Patriot Viper DDR2 PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel SLI Edition (4-4-4-12)
- Graphics Card(s)
- ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4
- Sound Card
- Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 22" Acer X223 Widescreen
- Screen Resolution
- 1680 X 1050
- Hard Drives
- 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium)
- PSU
- ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular
- Case
- NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans
- Cooling
- 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm On GPU
- Keyboard
- Microsoft Sidewinder X6
- Mouse
- Microsoft Sidewinder X5
- Internet Speed
- 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up
- Other Info
- AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound
Frostmourne
Banned
they Phenom II 965 doesn't overclock well? i mean..... pulling a whole ghz overclock on air? thats not overclocking well? and pullin 2+ on watercooling? thats not overclocking well? what are you lookin at? stuff from 2002?
It doesn't make much of a diffierence either.
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Sony Vaio Z46GDU
- CPU
- [email protected] w/6MB L2 cache 1066MHz FSB
- Memory
- 6GB DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM
- Graphics Card(s)
- 9300M GS 256MB + Intel Integrated 4500MHD
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 13.1" WXGA True Colour Tough
- Screen Resolution
- 1600x900
- Hard Drives
- 320GB SATA 7200RPM
- Internet Speed
- 1MB/s
they Phenom II 965 doesn't overclock well? i mean..... pulling a whole ghz overclock on air? thats not overclocking well? and pullin 2+ on watercooling? thats not overclocking well? what are you lookin at? stuff from 2002?
Well it's nothing new lol.
My Computer
System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- Custom Built
- CPU
- Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550
- Motherboard
- XFX MB-750I-72P9 NF750i
- Memory
- 4096MB Corsair XMS2 PC-5400
- Graphics Card(s)
- ASUS Nvidia Geforce GTX470
- Sound Card
- ASUS Xonar DX
- Monitor(s) Displays
- Dell 24" S2409W & Dell 20" E207WFP
- Screen Resolution
- 1920x1080 & 1680x1050
- Hard Drives
- 750GB Western Digital Caviar Black & 500GB Samsung
- PSU
- 750 watt Thermaltake Toughpower
- Case
- Coolermaster Dominator 690 Nvidia Edition
- Cooling
- Zalman CNPS9700-NT Cooler, 6x 120mm Chassis Fans
- Keyboard
- Logitech G11 Keyboard
- Mouse
- Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (2007 edition)
- Internet Speed
- 100Mbps
- Other Info
- abit airpace 54mbps wireless PCI-E x1 card
thepizzaman
Banned
you people are crazyMy Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Acer, Aspire M1201\Custom Build
- CPU
- AMD Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2.6Ghz
- Motherboard
- Acer Micro-ATX Motherboard
- Memory
- 2x2gb Patriot Viper DDR2 PC6400 @ 800mhz Dual Channel SLI Edition (4-4-4-12)
- Graphics Card(s)
- ATI HD3870 with 512mb GDDR4
- Sound Card
- Realtek HD 7.1 Onboard Sound
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 22" Acer X223 Widescreen
- Screen Resolution
- 1680 X 1050
- Hard Drives
- 320gb Western Digital SATA II (Ubuntu 9.10)
500gb Seagate SATA II
1tb Seagate SATA II (Vista Home Premium)
- PSU
- ULTRA X3 600 Watt Modular
- Case
- NZXT Tempest (The Airflow King) 2x 140mm Fans, 4x 120mm Fans
- Cooling
- 1x 135mm In PSU, 1x 70mm On CPU, And 1x 120mm On GPU
- Keyboard
- Microsoft Sidewinder X6
- Mouse
- Microsoft Sidewinder X5
- Internet Speed
- 6 Mbs Down 1 Mbs Up
- Other Info
- AVerMedia 1500MCE TV Tuner
Logitech X540 5.1 Surround Sound
AMD's chips are a lot better clockers now, but you still cant compare the two....
intel's ''core2'' architecture is leaps & bounds ahead of AMD's, clock for clock intel still overpower AMD wherever you look.
& lets not even get started on ''i5'' & ''i7''
i wouldnt say were ''crazy'' more like ''realists''
intel's ''core2'' architecture is leaps & bounds ahead of AMD's, clock for clock intel still overpower AMD wherever you look.
& lets not even get started on ''i5'' & ''i7''
i wouldnt say were ''crazy'' more like ''realists''
My Computer
System One
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- Manufacturer/Model
- ME.....
- CPU
- Q9450 @ 3.6ghz
- Motherboard
- P5K PREMIUM
- Memory
- 8GB 1066mhz buffalo firestix
- Graphics Card(s)
- HD 5970
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 20'' syncmaster
- Screen Resolution
- 1680x1050
- Hard Drives
- 160GB 7200RPM SEAGATE BARRACUDA IDE
160GB 7200RPM SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA 2
- PSU
- XCILIO 850w
- Case
- unknown ATX
- Cooling
- Arctic cooler pro 775
- Keyboard
- logitech EX110
- Mouse
- logitech cordless optical
- Internet Speed
- 2mb
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Custom Build
- CPU
- Intel Q9550 @ 4Gig / Titan Fenir
- Motherboard
- XFX 780i
- Memory
- 4GB OCZ PC2-8500C5 DDR2
- Graphics Card(s)
- Gainward GTX260/216 SLI
- Sound Card
- Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer
- Monitor(s) Displays
- Dell UltraSharp 2209WA 22"
- Screen Resolution
- 1680x1050
- Hard Drives
- western digital raptor 10000rpm sata
- PSU
- OCZ Modstream 700w
- Cooling
- Titan Fenir
- Keyboard
- Razer Reclusa
- Mouse
- Logitech G5 Gamer
- Internet Speed
- 8mb