Need help choosing good (AMD)processor

amplid

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I'm planning on buying a new processor for my pc, but I don't reeally know which one to buy. There's so much choise out there these days. Does anyone maybe know a system scanner that gives good advice (like for example the one at www.crucial .com but for processors, not memory) or recommendation for one? Thanks:p

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
I'm planning on buying a new processor for my pc, but I don't reeally know which one to buy. There's so much choise out there these days. Does anyone maybe know a system scanner that gives good advice (like for example the one at www.crucial .com but for processors, not memory) or recommendation for one? Thanks:p

Amplid

Amplid,

I admit, I'm an Intel junkie. Having said that, here's a link to an Intel processor comparison tool ;): Intel® Product Comparison Chart

I hope you find what you're looking for.
 

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System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q6600 Quad Core 2.4 Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell 0TP406
    Memory
    4 X 1 GB DDR2 Kingston 800 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 8800 GT 512 MB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual Dell 22" Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    3360x1050
    Hard Drives
    320 GB Internal Main
    500 GB USB External
    160 GB USB External
    2TB USB External
    Internet Speed
    DSL 3MB
Well, your board is a Socket 939, from what I can see. That's going to limit your options a bit. In fact, so much so that you've already got the best (unless you want to go with a server chip, which doesn't make too much sense).

I would recommend you look at motherboards as well and think about what you want in that as well. The Phenoms are actually starting to get good reviews. I've got a 6000+ and I'm quite happy. Helped someone else install a 6400+ today with extreme ease. You're right, there's a lot of choice. But the more you can tell us about what you want, the easier it will be to point you the right way.
 

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If you have an AM2 motherboard and the bios can handle it the new AMD quad core could work, but you need to wait for the new unreleased version since the 9500 and the 9600 Phenom have problems with the 64 bit Vista OS. Another option would be the AMD dual core 6000+ processor for an AM2 board. If you have a socket 939 your choices are very limited. Check Newegg to see whats available.
 

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System One

  • CPU
    AMD 945
    Motherboard
    Asus M5A99X EVO
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI 6770

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Workstation
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    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
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    Ryzen 9 5950X
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    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
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    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
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    Creative
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    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
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    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
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    1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
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    ThermalTake Level 10 GT
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    Enermax Liqtech 240
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    Surface Ergonomic.
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    Logitech Performance MX
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    windows 10
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    1.9GHz Intel Core i5-4300U (dual-core, 3MB cache, up to 2.9GHz with Turbo Boost)
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    4GB
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    Intel HD Graphics 4400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    12" Multi Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2160 x 144
    Hard Drives
    128GB
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    yes
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
It may be 2x2 cores but at least it works.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Workstation
    Manufacturer/Model
    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
    Sound Card
    Creative
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    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
    Drive
    PSU
    1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT
    Cooling
    Enermax Liqtech 240
    Keyboard
    Surface Ergonomic.
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Other Info
    WinTV NovaTD
    HP CP1515n Color Laser
    Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
    Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
    APC 750i Smart UPS
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    windows 10
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Pro 3
    CPU
    1.9GHz Intel Core i5-4300U (dual-core, 3MB cache, up to 2.9GHz with Turbo Boost)
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    12" Multi Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2160 x 144
    Hard Drives
    128GB
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    yes
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
Definitely time to upgrade your motherboard as well. Socket 939 is going out fast. Even the AM2 has hit the end of it's road stopping at the 6400+. The only thing that will keep the AM2 alive is the fact that AM2+ boards support the quad core as well as the dual core processors.
If I were you I would go with the GIGABYTE GA-MA790FX-DQ6 or similar and a AMD Phenom X4 9600 Quad Core Processor.
I will be upgrading to that board soon, but I might wait for better quad core processors to be released by AMD. I certainly dont have anything against Intel as I was using a P4 on an AGP board up until about a year ago, but I think AMD will crush Intel soon with new Quad Cores.
And yes, they are true Quad Cores.:)
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tiltrotor22 unfortunatelly AMD already tried this with their new quad core Phenoms and it failed not only to crush Intel but also to mach it at least :-] This is not any hot news, so if you did not read anything about it yet, there is something here for example: First Phenom with B3 Stepping : AMD Phenom - A Second Try with the B3 Stepping
Amplid I would keep this computer as it is, because upgrade of CPU is not worth it. Opteron is a choice, but it probably wouldn't be better then what you have now. Or maybe I would give it to my parents and keep the graphics card (if it is PCIe) and use it to build another pc with some cheap Intel P35 chipset (less energy consuming then nForce) and some good dual core CPU (Wolfdale core). Or If you want the best performance for the lowest prize choose the dual core pentium E2140, because it can be overclocked to 3GHz with stock cooler, which is really not bad I think ;)
Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2140 Overclocking results - Overclockers Forums
 

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Hehe thanks for the many advices guys:d;). From what I read, I think I'm going to wait a little longer (maybe upgrade my RAM) and then buy (or try to build:p) a new machine since everything will need replacing soon. Thanks for the (super:o:p) quick replies:d

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
Djee the emabarrasment was supposed to be ':eek:':p

Have a nice holiday everyone:D

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
I'm planning on buying a new processor for my pc, but I don't reeally know which one to buy. There's so much choise out there these days. Does anyone maybe know a system scanner that gives good advice (like for example the one at www.crucial .com but for processors, not memory) or recommendation for one? Thanks:p

Amplid

Amplid, see my signature for the AMD Phenom rig I built a few days ago.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom 9600 Quad
    Motherboard
    ASUS MB-M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiFi
    Memory
    2 x A-Data 2GB DDR2-800
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ATI Radeon HD 2400PRO
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAHARA 21"
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1200
    Hard Drives
    2 x 80GB Seagate (I)
    2 x 120GB Seagate (I/S)
    2 x 200GB Seagate (I/S)
    2 x 250GB Seagate (I/S)
    PSU
    800W
    Case
    Thermaltake Tai-Chi
    Cooling
    Tai-Chi Water Cooler
    Keyboard
    Genius
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    384kbps
    Other Info
    Currently dual booting between Vista x64 Ultimate Windows 7 BETA x64
Yes I know, I saw it on show us your rig. Looks awesome:p but I need a lot more cash and (more importantly) experience before I can (try to...:p) start building a rig like yours;)

Congrat on the new rig

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
Yes I know, I saw it on show us your rig. Looks awesome:p but I need a lot more cash and (more importantly) experience before I can (try to...:p) start building a rig like yours;)

Congrat on the new rig

Amplid

Thanks, Amplid.

It does take time to build a good rig. The original computer (Venus), took me 6 months of research before I finally settled on a motherboard, CPU, chassis, etc. I was in a bit of a rush building Prometheus, because the insurance company was breathing down my neck. Prometheus was built in under 2 weeks!

Just when you are ready to upgrade, remember that the single most important component you can buy is the motherboard. Sure, it sounds backwards, because most people choose a CPU first, motherboard second. But you want to take your time looking at and comparing motherboards.

When building your computer, you need to concentrate on these primary factors:
  1. CPU: What family CPUs does the board support, and what are you future upgrade options? For example (with AMD), if you choose an AM2+ motherboard, you can use both AM2 and AM2+ CPUs, but if you go with an AM2 board, you cannot use AM2+ CPUs like the Phenom.
  2. Memory Speed: What is the maximum speed supported? DDR2-800 or DDR2-1066? Boards that support DDR2-1066 are better, because it improves future upgrade options.
  3. Memory Size: What is the maximum supported memory capacity? You'll want a board that supports 8GB of ram, even if you are only planning on installing 4GB, or on using Vista 32-Bit. If you install 2 x 2GB memory modules, you'll then have two open slots, so when (if) you do switch to Vista x64, you'll have an easy upgrade path to 8GB memory.
  4. Storage: How many storage device connectors does it have? The older IDE standard is fast on it's way out, but most boards still have at least one that you can use for CD/DVD writers (I use mine for both my boot drive & DVD writer). You'll want a board that has an absolute minimum of 4 SATA connectors, but more is better. Be sure that the SATA controller is a true SATA II (3Gb/s).
  5. PCI-Express: Even if you're not currently planning on using SLI or Crossfire, make sure the board has TWO PCI-Express x16 slots - You never know what the future may bring, and you may find yourself wanting an SLI or Crossfire setup later.
  6. Graphics: If the motherboard is using an nVidia chipset, then you must use an nVidia graphics card. Similarly, if the motherboard uses and AMD/ATI chipset, then you want to use an ATI graphics card. I've found that overall system stability and performance is enhanced if the motherboard and graphics card use chipsets from the same manufacturers.
  7. Power: Don't settle for second best here, as you'll want a PSU that adapts to you. I am currently using a 700W PSU, but again, more is better, especially if you're later planning on adding a power-hungry graphics card, or additional hard drive. A-Open make some really good Power Supplies, as does Thermaltake, but Thermaltake PSUs are horribly expensive.
  8. Chassis: You'll want a solid case with plenty of room to securly hold everything, with enough room to hold as many hard disks as your motherboard has IDE/SATA connectors. Hard Disk bays should preferably have fans. Make sure that there is room also to tuck away cables to improve airflow. The best choice for a case is from a supplier that specializes in cooling. Those from Thermaltake or Coolermaster are on the top of my list.
The rest of the components, like RAID, USB, Firewire, HD sound, etc are extras. The eight "specifications" I've highlighted above in order of preference are the most important, and is how I've been building computers for years now. And I have yet follow the above and end up with a poor performer.

My opinion is not gospel, as others may have their own ideas on how to best build a "super-rig", but just remember that if you buy a crappy motherboard, then it doesn't matter how good the rest of the components are - your overall performance will suffer.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom 9600 Quad
    Motherboard
    ASUS MB-M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiFi
    Memory
    2 x A-Data 2GB DDR2-800
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ATI Radeon HD 2400PRO
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAHARA 21"
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1200
    Hard Drives
    2 x 80GB Seagate (I)
    2 x 120GB Seagate (I/S)
    2 x 200GB Seagate (I/S)
    2 x 250GB Seagate (I/S)
    PSU
    800W
    Case
    Thermaltake Tai-Chi
    Cooling
    Tai-Chi Water Cooler
    Keyboard
    Genius
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    384kbps
    Other Info
    Currently dual booting between Vista x64 Ultimate Windows 7 BETA x64
Djee thanks man. This is really useful for when I start buiulding my own rig soon. I wanted to ask how to start best, but thought it might be too much to ask from you guys:p Thanks for putting so much effort in this man!!

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
Djee thanks man. This is really useful for when I start buiulding my own rig soon. I wanted to ask how to start best, but thought it might be too much to ask from you guys:p Thanks for putting so much effort in this man!!

Amplid

Anytime, Amplid.

Good luck with building your new rig. And have fun - I neglected to mention that earlier, but it's of paramount importance hat you enjoy doing it, or you'll always have doubts about it later.

Peter
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom 9600 Quad
    Motherboard
    ASUS MB-M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiFi
    Memory
    2 x A-Data 2GB DDR2-800
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ATI Radeon HD 2400PRO
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAHARA 21"
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1200
    Hard Drives
    2 x 80GB Seagate (I)
    2 x 120GB Seagate (I/S)
    2 x 200GB Seagate (I/S)
    2 x 250GB Seagate (I/S)
    PSU
    800W
    Case
    Thermaltake Tai-Chi
    Cooling
    Tai-Chi Water Cooler
    Keyboard
    Genius
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    384kbps
    Other Info
    Currently dual booting between Vista x64 Ultimate Windows 7 BETA x64
Hell yes!;) first I'm going to try and disassemble and reassemble my current rig:p Thanks again!

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
AMD Announces Six & Twelve Core Processors

Yes, you read correctly, although it’s not quite what you were expecting. AMD has just updated their server processor roadmap with single-die 6-core and dual-die 12-core Opteron processors. The new processors are codenamed “Istanbul” and “Magny-Cours”, respectively. The 6-core processor utilizes the current Socket F1 1207-pin socket and should be available in 2009. The 12-core processor is based on the new Socket G34 platform, and is planned for 2010.
AMD also revealed that 45nm processors are right on track to begin production in the second half of 2008.
Want to know more? Click here to read updated roadmap (PDF).

with this new chip is going to have intel running for the front door
 

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System One

  • CPU
    AMD 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI
    Memory
    Kingston DD2 800Mhz 3072 SLI Ready
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDA Geforce 8800 GTS
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 250 GB 7200 RPM
Need help choosing good (AMD)processor
I cannot, in good conscious, assist you in choosing the clearly inferior product. Do some reading and have a look at pricing; then, after you've found that the Intel products are not only superior, but cheaper, we'll revisit the topic. :)
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Fumz' Flux-Capacitor
    CPU
    E8400
    Motherboard
    DFI LP DK P35-T2RS
    Memory
    4GB G.Skill PC-1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA 8800 GTS
    Sound Card
    X-Fi XtremeGamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    500GB W.D. RE2 Primary
    1TB W.D. Caviar GP WD10EACS
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610
    Case
    Lian Li Lancool K62
    Cooling
    Thermalright Ultima-90/S-Flex 120mm
    Keyboard
    MS Natural Elite 4000 Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Logitech G5
    Internet Speed
    2.5MB/430
    Other Info
    D-Link DGL 4500
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