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jaysquirrel

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So yesterday I decided to try out Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit since I will be getting an additional 4GB of RAM to add to my current 4GB of RAM. I use RAM heavy programs such as After Effects etc

So, thinking it would be simple and easy, I installed Vista64 onto an empty SATA HDD (I didn't want to risk my 32bit Vista tbh) and it ran fine.. then graphical errors started happening, crashes happening. I reinstalled again, was fine, then the crashes again.

Now I cannot even boot into Vista64, my screen flashes, all I see is the cursor on a black background. Thats it.. it doesn't stop until I turn off my computer. I would post boot logs.. or.. something that might help but I can't even log in. I'm thinking maybe its my graphics card? Should I perhaps slipstream SP1 into Vista64 using vLite?

Also just so you know, this is a completely legit version of Vista 64, bought from Microsoft's online distributor. So its not altered.. or cracked or modified in anyway. I just don't want to slipstream SP1 and waste another DVD for it to not work =/

Specs:
Mobo: Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2 (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5000+ Black Edition 2.60GHz (Socket AM2)
RAM: OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400C5 Dual Channel Vista Gold Series DDR2
GPU: Sapphire's Radeon X800
HDD's: IDE 40GB, SATA 500GB, SATA 200GB (200GB is the HDD I used to install 64 bit on)
SOUND: Creative Soundblaster Audigy SE
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB
Boot into safe mode. Check the device manager for problems. Install latest video drivers. Install the proper chipset drivers for your motherboard and OS.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    pair of Intel E5430 quad core 2.66 GHz Xeons
    Motherboard
    Supermicro X7DWA-N server board
    Memory
    16GB DDR667
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB video card
    Hard Drives
    SAS RAID
I was unable to boot into safe mode. I re-installed Vista 64 again last night, and I got the problem before it could even finish installing. But I managed to log in today and I'm currently using it now. I've installed a few updates, and installed a graphics driver directly from my mobo's website and the LAN driver from the website. Both work for 32bit and 64 bit. I'm downloading SP1 right now and hoping that nothing goes wrong.

I'm thinking that maybe because I was using dual monitors, that it may have caused an issue.

EDIT: I believe its Aero which is messing up. I noticed that Aero was disabled, and the theme was basic. So I tried to change it and boom, it happened all over again. Screens flashing black and I can only see the cursor, all the correct drivers are installed.. so I give up
 
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My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    * BFK Customs *
    CPU
    Intel C2Q 9550 Yorkfield
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5Q Pro
    Memory
    8GB Dominator 8500C5D
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX ATI 1GB 4870 XXX
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD 7-1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1x 47" LCD HDMI & 2x 26" LCD HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080P & 1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    2x 500GB 7200RPM 32MB Cache WD Caviar Black
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX
    Case
    CM Cosmos RC-1000
    Cooling
    Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    HP Enhansed Multimedia
    Mouse
    Razer Diamondback 3G
    Internet Speed
    18.6Mb/s
    Other Info
    My First Build ;)
So I logged into safe mode and did a system restore. I think I'm gonna skip using update, since both times I used it, it crashed my system. Hopefully this time I'll be able to keep my system alive =p
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    * BFK Customs *
    CPU
    Intel C2Q 9550 Yorkfield
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5Q Pro
    Memory
    8GB Dominator 8500C5D
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX ATI 1GB 4870 XXX
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD 7-1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1x 47" LCD HDMI & 2x 26" LCD HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080P & 1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    2x 500GB 7200RPM 32MB Cache WD Caviar Black
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX
    Case
    CM Cosmos RC-1000
    Cooling
    Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    HP Enhansed Multimedia
    Mouse
    Razer Diamondback 3G
    Internet Speed
    18.6Mb/s
    Other Info
    My First Build ;)
Ive tried downloading it several times today. But each time IE/FF has crashed or its just stopped downloading. Maybe its a sign that I shouldn't install it :p

Anyway so far I've gotten Adobe After Effects installed and it works perfectly.

EDIT: Well, I just installed my bios reccomended LAN driver, and now I can access mozilla.org.. weird, but awesome.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB
You Need SP1!


Later :eek: Ted
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    * BFK Customs *
    CPU
    Intel C2Q 9550 Yorkfield
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5Q Pro
    Memory
    8GB Dominator 8500C5D
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX ATI 1GB 4870 XXX
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD 7-1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1x 47" LCD HDMI & 2x 26" LCD HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080P & 1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    2x 500GB 7200RPM 32MB Cache WD Caviar Black
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX
    Case
    CM Cosmos RC-1000
    Cooling
    Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
    Keyboard
    HP Enhansed Multimedia
    Mouse
    Razer Diamondback 3G
    Internet Speed
    18.6Mb/s
    Other Info
    My First Build ;)
Ummm you are installing all 64bit drivers, correct?

I ma concerned that your Creative card may not have 64 bit drivers....have you tried removing that puppy and seeing if some of your problems go away?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
    Manufacturer/Model
    The Beast Model V (homebrew)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
    PSU
    Thermaltake Black Widow TX TR2 850W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod ATX
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
    Cooling
    Corsair H100 (CPU, dual 140 mm fans on radiator) + Air (2 *
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15 (gen 2)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared)
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
  • Operating System
    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
    CPU
    AMD A6-5350M APU
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Lenovo
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
Yup all 64 bit drivers.

Its ATi which has been giving me problems, I tried to install SP1 but I got an error, I'll retry now and post the error. Its working alright without SP1 anyway, I mainly just need 64bit for After Effects and Photoshop, which it currently does :)

EDIT: So I'm noticing some more graphical issues, gonna reinstall a ATi driver, older one. When I try and install SP1 I get an error saying "internal error occurred 0x80070002" and it gives me a help link go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=101139

I'm currently running the the System File Checker tool and have told the Windows Vista Memory Diagnostic Tool to run on my next restart.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB
No. Uninstall ATI drivers, install SP1 and *then* install ATI drivers.

I didn't have an issue with Catalyst 8.5 drivers, but I know this was an issue for earlier Catalyst drivers as well - and the solution was to do exactly as I said above.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
    Manufacturer/Model
    The Beast Model V (homebrew)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
    PSU
    Thermaltake Black Widow TX TR2 850W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod ATX
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
    Cooling
    Corsair H100 (CPU, dual 140 mm fans on radiator) + Air (2 *
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15 (gen 2)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared)
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
  • Operating System
    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
    CPU
    AMD A6-5350M APU
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Lenovo
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB
is every thing else current in your Windows Update?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
    Manufacturer/Model
    The Beast Model V (homebrew)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
    PSU
    Thermaltake Black Widow TX TR2 850W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod ATX
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
    Cooling
    Corsair H100 (CPU, dual 140 mm fans on radiator) + Air (2 *
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15 (gen 2)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared)
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
  • Operating System
    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
    CPU
    AMD A6-5350M APU
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Lenovo
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
My windows is fully updated. I reinstalled all the updates (Except the ATI driver "ATI Technologies Inc. - Video - RADEON X800GT" optional)

I'm now getting a new error when trying to install SP1:

An internal error occurred while installing the service pack.

Error code: 0x800F0902. See:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=101139 for details.

----

Yes I've restarted and tried again, yes I've checked the HDD for errors, yes I've ran the System File Checker tool, yes ive ran the Memory Diagnostic tool and yes I've restarted and disabled any apps that might be running.

Ok so I installed the update "ATI Technologies Inc. - Video - RADEON X800GT" and I got a LOT of problems, my screen right now is really really messed up, but its still usable.

I managed to screenshot em:

http://static.pici.se/pictures/PuFdfYvBD.jpg

Strange thing is.. in the screenshots, the screen looks fine. Photos coming in a bit.

JQEaplKQx.jpg
 
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My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB
Does the 32 bit still boot fine?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
    Manufacturer/Model
    The Beast Model V (homebrew)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
    PSU
    Thermaltake Black Widow TX TR2 850W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod ATX
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
    Cooling
    Corsair H100 (CPU, dual 140 mm fans on radiator) + Air (2 *
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15 (gen 2)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared)
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
  • Operating System
    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
    CPU
    AMD A6-5350M APU
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Lenovo
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
Hi jaysquirrel,

Can you check your BIOS for an option called either HPET or High precision multimedia timer and disable it?
 

My Computer

System One

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My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB
jaysquirrel said:
johngalt said:
Does the 32 bit still boot fine?
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Yup, as fine as it ever was that is :)


dmex said:
Hi jaysquirrel,

Can you check your BIOS for an option called either HPET or High precision multimedia timer and disable it?
Click to expand...

There's something on my mobo's website called Vista 64 HPET filter driver version: 1.00.0000.1 maybe worth giving that a look?

I looked in my BIOS and saw something under ACPI, and ACPI HPET was disabled already. There was no other HPET.
Click to expand...

hmm, Try enabling it and installing the driver...Usually it causes the problem with graphics but it might solve it in this cause...Give it a try and let me know?

Steven
 

My Computer

System One

Alright. So yesterday my extra 4GB of RAM came so I reinstalled 64bit. I installed the latest ATi drivers, big no no. Lots of artifacts.

I can't install SP1 again either, I get the same error =/

I've tried pretty much every thing you guys have said, enable the HPET, install drivers, disable HPET install drivers.

I've even tried older drivers. I'm starting to come to the conclusion that Vista 64 bit is.. just a pile of unstable crap. Its pretty weird 32 bit runs flawlessly and 64 bit is just rubbish with so many errors =/
 
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My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 500
    Motherboard
    Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2
    Memory
    OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) PC2-6400C5 DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire's Radeon X800GT
    Hard Drives
    IDE Vistax32 40GB, SATA Backup 500GB, SATA Vistax64 200GB
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