Red x on network icon

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jtisch

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Here's a problem that started around a week ago.
I have Windows Vista Home Premium
At startup, everything loads fine. The desktop and all my icons are there.
However, there is a red X over my network icon on the task bar.
I have to wait at least three minutes for the x to disappear before I can access the Internet.
I talked to my ISP provider and they reset my router. The problem still exists. The provider said the problem is on my end, not theirs.
I tried everything I could think of including cleaning and editing the registry and the problem persists.
Don't know where else to turn
jtisch
 

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jtisch said:
However, there is a red X over my network icon on the task bar.
I have to wait at least three minutes for the x to disappear before I can access the Internet.
I talked to my ISP provider and they reset my router. The problem still exists. The provider said the problem is on my end, not theirs.
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I'm a network novice but would like to try to improve my neworking skills by trying to help. Hope you don't mind.

1. Are there other computers on the router and can they connect while you have to wait three minutes?

2. Assuming you're using wireless, if you connect to your router via cable, can you access the internet as soon as Vista completes booting? If yes, then it sounds plausible that the 3 minute "wireless" connect delay is indeed a problem on your end.

3. If you still have to wait 3 minutes when connected via wire to your router, maybe connect your computer directly to the cable modem and see what happens.

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I have had that happen a few times as well. After being unable to connect one morning, I started watching the ethernet icon upon login. The amount of time it takes to connect varies on my computer. Typically less than 2 seconds, but it has taken as long as 20 seconds for the red X on my ethernet connection to go away. Once or twice it took over a minute.

I use a wired cable modem, and I believe I am the only one in the neighborhood who uses one. So I don't think it is a network load caused by the number of users local to me.

I would be interested in a fix for this as well.
 

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Skyzoomer said:
jtisch said:
However, there is a red X over my network icon on the task bar.
I have to wait at least three minutes for the x to disappear before I can access the Internet.
I talked to my ISP provider and they reset my router. The problem still exists. The provider said the problem is on my end, not theirs.
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I'm a network novice but would like to try to improve my neworking skills by trying to help. Hope you don't mind.
Thank you

1. Are there other computers on the router and can they connect while you have to wait three minutes?
There is another computer, but it is never one when I log on. When the other computer is logged onto, it does not have my problem

2. Assuming you're using wireless, if you connect to your router via cable, can you access the internet as soon as Vista completes booting?
No. There is that two or three minute wait. Everything on the desktop shows and loads properly. Just have to wait for that two or three minutes before the X goes away to connect to Internet. If yes, then it sounds plausible that the 3 minute "wireless" connect delay is indeed a problem on your end.

3. If you still have to wait 3 minutes when connected via wire to your router, maybe connect your computer directly to the cable modem and see what happens.

Skyzoomer
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jtisch said:
Skyzoomer said:
jtisch said:
However, there is a red X over my network icon on the task bar.
I have to wait at least three minutes for the x to disappear before I can access the Internet.
I talked to my ISP provider and they reset my router. The problem still exists. The provider said the problem is on my end, not theirs.
Click to expand...

I'm a network novice but would like to try to improve my neworking skills by trying to help. Hope you don't mind.
Thank you

1. Are there other computers on the router and can they connect while you have to wait three minutes?
There is another computer, but it is never one when I log on. When the other computer is logged onto, it does not have my problem

2. Assuming you're using wireless, if you connect to your router via cable, can you access the internet as soon as Vista completes booting?
No. There is that two or three minute wait. Everything on the desktop shows and loads properly. Just have to wait for that two or three minutes before the X goes away to connect to Internet. If yes, then it sounds plausible that the 3 minute "wireless" connect delay is indeed a problem on your end.

3. If you still have to wait 3 minutes when connected via wire to your router, maybe connect your computer directly to the cable modem and see what happens.

Skyzoomer
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I've tried everything I possibly can think of and I still have the same problem.
I used a stopwatch to see just how long I had to wait for the red x to disappear and it is exactly one and a half minutes.
Meanwhile, both the router and modem show an Internet connection during the wait for the x to disappear.
Additionally, while I am waiting for the red x to disappear, I am locked out from doing anything, even though everything on the desktop is visible. I cannot even open the control panel or run msconfig nor open my e-mail account. I have to wait.
jt
 

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how many auto-start programs and services are there on your box
get a network cable and boot in safe mode with network drivers
to boot in safe mode press F8 after the bios loads
it seems like you have a lot of back groud stuuf going on
 

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Check how many auto-start programs and services that are running when you start your pc. You might have a lot of stuff running in the backgroud.
Here is one way I would try to troubleshoot the problem. I would boot in safe mode. When you boot in safe mode the are a couple different options, choose "boot in safe mode with network drivers". Becuase choosing this option only loads the LAN driver and not the WLAN driver I would use a network cable to connect to my router. Doing this would allow me to see if the problem presists in the most basic configuration
if there is anything else that you didnt understand please ask and im sorry i i wasnt so clear on my previous post:cool:
 

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nso5300 said:
Check how many auto-start programs and services that are running when you start your pc. You might have a lot of stuff running in the backgroud.
Here is one way I would try to troubleshoot the problem. I would boot in safe mode. When you boot in safe mode the are a couple different options, choose "boot in safe mode with network drivers". Becuase choosing this option only loads the LAN driver and not the WLAN driver I would use a network cable to connect to my router. Doing this would allow me to see if the problem presists in the most basic configuration
if there is anything else that you didnt understand please ask and im sorry i i wasnt so clear on my previous post:cool:
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Thanks much for the clarification, I appreciate it.
 

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Tried everything I can think of and still have the problem.
But I think I have found the link to the problem, but I still don't know how to
correct it.
If I load it in Safe Mode, there is no hangup.
So, what does that tell you?
Anyone else out there wanna take a stab at this?
jt
 

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if it boots quicly in safe modeand not in normal mode then threre are proablaby some auto start programs that are slowing down your startup time run msconfig and see if you can elimanate some auto start programs
 

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to me personally it seems like a auto start issue with either a service or a program could be wrong but from what youve said so far
1) normal mode slow boot time
2) safemode faster boot time
thats the diagnose i would make
here a article on how to trouble shoot boot and start up problems
Troubleshoot slow starts with Vista's Event Viewer | ZDNet Photo Gallery
i could be wrong but i would like to think im right :huh: hmmmmm
 

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I think there are networking sevices starting in safe mode, that aren't starting regularly. Compare a list of computer services between regular Windows and safe mode with networking.

Maybe you will find a service that doesn't run in regular startup.
 

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Try this solution. It worked.

> run ‘regedit.exe’
> goto key ‘HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion \TrayNotify’
> delete keys ‘IconStreams’ & ‘PastIconsStream’
> start task manager, go to processes and kill explorer.exe
> go to applications in the task manager, hit new task and type ‘explorer.exe’
> explorer will now reboot and woohey, your icons should return.
Works a charm.
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ankur1120 said:
Try this solution. It worked.

> run ‘regedit.exe’
> goto key ‘HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion \TrayNotify’
> delete keys ‘IconStreams’ & ‘PastIconsStream’
> start task manager, go to processes and kill explorer.exe
> go to applications in the task manager, hit new task and type ‘explorer.exe’
> explorer will now reboot and woohey, your icons should return.
Works a charm.
Andrew
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would that rebuild the .reg?


Friends of this forum,
only take this advice after you made a backup of your registry!
 

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It basically, remove the system tray icon history and once you restart the explorer.exe it would create the entry there automatically.
Well, you could take the backup if u would like to, but not necessary.
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that just rebuilds the icon cache doesn't it?
 

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ilikefree said:
that just rebuilds the icon cache doesn't it?
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No because the icon cache is stored in a different place. I think it could work, but I don't know whether it will have any adverse affects on the system.

Perhaps you (jtisch) should make a system restore point, or as pacinitaly said make a backup of your registry and then give it a go. If you back it all up just in case and keep these backups until you are certain that there has been no 'side effects', and after this point you could delete them.

Hey, its worth giving it a go.
 

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