ALC889A, Vista x64, Speaker Fill = rear speakers distorted

Zach

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Because of the recent fiasco with Creative / Daniel K the straw has broken the camels back and I am trying real hard to not use my X-Fi XtremeGamer, and never buy Creative again. Although I didn't personally have many issues with it (and Alchemy is great for Vista...wish there was one for everyone) I don't want to spend my life wondering what will happen next with my drivers..

I have a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R rev 1.0. This board has the Realtek ALC889A chip and when I first started using it in XP I was so very impressed with both the quality and the features. Specifically speaker fill. I love upmixing my music to 5.1 and at the time I was having weird issues with Creatives own expansion setting so I happily used my onboard for quite a while.

Then I decided to upgrade to Vista and noticed immediately that things were not working the way they had on XP.. DirectSound removal aside, I couldn't even get music to upmix properly.. So here I am again, trying to get by without my X-Fi and I've installed the latest drivers from Realtek's web site for Vista x64.

When I enable speaker fill, the rear speakers output sound at a pretty low level, but when you get up close to check them, it is clearly putting out distorted audio. The only way I can describe it is that the rear's sound like you are listening to low-bitrate audio from an Internet station, and seems to be concentrated at the high end of the freqency spectrum. I don't understand why it worked fine in XP x64, and it works ok in Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy as well. I don't even need to do anything special in Linux, I just adjust the individual channel levels to balance out the sound.. SO I'm not sure why it doesn't work that way on Windows; even still I am about to reinstall XP x64 today to verify it still works properly there.

I have tried drivers from my original gigabyte CD, and from their web site.. The installer runs but the sound doesn't work at all.. like the drivers don't work for the device.. (I'm sure it's nothing but Linux identifies my onboard as another model).

The only other thing I can think after playing with all the drivers is to possibly try Vista x32, so I am really at a loss about what to do here.. The only other thing I can add is that different MP3's play better than others, however they all play just fine in Linux so the problem can't be the files..

Has anyone else at least experienced this same problem? It would be good to know at least that much..

Thanks.
 

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Hi, Zach, and welcome to the forums.

You might try Guru3D - Driver Sweeper to remove your currently installed drivers, and then try installing the latest version only....


  1. Download the Driver Sweeper package, and install it.
  2. Reboot into Safe Mode
  3. Run Driver Sweeper and select teh Realtek Audio drivers for removal.
  4. Remove them
  5. Reboot and allow to normally boot into Vista
  6. Install the R1.96 drivers.
See if this method allows for hte driver to work correctly.
 

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    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
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I'm in the middle of backing up my primary drive so I can do a clean install of several OS's so I will report back on my findings.

Thanks
 

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Ok right now I'm on XP x64 and I nearly freaked out because I saw that my speaker fill option was gone. Couldn't find it anywhere, but I crossed my fingers and opened WMP and started to play a couple MP3's.

It looks like as far as XP goes, it now handles the cloning automatically, like Kubuntu Linux does for me. All speakers are adjustable on their respective channels. And thankfully unlike I experienced in Vista x64, there is no distortion or weird sounding / low quality/volume issues. All speakers come out crystal clear.. In fact I think my bass response is stronger now as I had to turn it down on my speaker controls (Logitech X-540's)

I am still fearful of when I get around to installing Vista... but I will report back when that happens.. I did read elsewhere that people suspect Vista is adding its own crappy echo effect to the audio and even when you turn off environmental settings it is still forcing it through.. There is also no equalizer in Vista, just presets... kind of annoying as well.
 

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Hi Zach, I have the EXACT same problem. I seriously do not want to re-install windows xp x64 again... I just finished upgrading last week :confused:.

What solutions do you have when running Vista x64? I can't stand the fact that my brand new speakers sound distorted from the two rear ones.

(BTW, I'm using Logitech X-530's) ;)
 

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To be honest, I haven't reinstalled Vista x64 yet.. Right now I am on XP x86, SP3. I kind of installed it to test some older games out and got lazy for the time being. It still does work brilliantly under XP though.

I know that after I removed Vista there was an updated driver pack, and I will check again when I do finally get around to installing Vista again; however updated drivers is really the only solution/recourse I can see for this issue at the current time.

I really feel it's got to be an issue with drivers, as it clearly functions well under XP.. But moving to Vista its a different OS, and then to make matters worse, Microsoft decided to change the way sound works by removing the DirectSound HAL. I have heard theories that Windows is applying some stupid reverb effect by default, among other things that could account for the distortion. I know some of my songs do play better than others, and can sound improved/worse if I do play with the EQ settings.. The fact there is really no EQ in Vista is another blow to the drivers as well.
 

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I also forget to add that im using an Asus M2N-X mobo with the Realtek ALC883-GR 6-channel Codec. Seems Realtek his driver issues with Vista x64...

I did try the latest drivers from both Asus website and Realtek and still the same problem occurs.

I'm going to dual boot XP x64 and see if that helps.
 

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Realtek and drivers work perfectly fine on my machine except for 1.93.
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
    Manufacturer/Model
    The Beast Model V (homebrew)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
    PSU
    Thermaltake Black Widow TX TR2 850W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod ATX
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
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    Corsair H100 (CPU, dual 140 mm fans on radiator) + Air (2 *
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15 (gen 2)
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    Logitech MX Master (shared)
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
  • Operating System
    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
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    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
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    AMD A6-5350M APU
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    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
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    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
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    Lenovo 15" Matte
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    1680 * 1050
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    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
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    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
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    Lenovo
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Yea I emailed Realtek about this issue, maybe if somebody else does the same, they will release some sort of fix or driver update or maybe at least respond to my email... :confused:
 

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I have ALC888 and have the same problem.
I have a temporary workaround. I use Media Player Classic with K-Lite Mega Codec Pack 4.00. I enable custom mapping and map channel 1 to front speakers and centre. I map the channel 2 to rear speakers and centre. I could have mapped both the channels to the woofer but it became too bassy. I am using Creative T6060 speakers.
If anybody is able to do the same in WMP11 please tell me.
 

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    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz
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    Asus P5Q Pro
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    2*2GB DDR2 800Mhz Transcend JetRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX280 OC
    Sound Card
    Creative XFi Titanium
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E228WFP 22"
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    1680*1050
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    512kbps ADSL
I had to revert back to Windows XP x64 and the speakers sound amazing! No problems at all and it looks like Windows automatically fills the rear speakers... too bad Vista aint got the correct drivers yet...
 

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I have been browsing and found out from other forums that this is problem with speaker fill feature of Vista. Other sound cards are having the same problem with speaker fill. So some sound card manfucaturers have provided xp type speaker fill feature in their own mixer which directs sound to all speakers instead of doing any echo and reverb sh** like vista.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Assembled
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Pro
    Memory
    2*2GB DDR2 800Mhz Transcend JetRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX280 OC
    Sound Card
    Creative XFi Titanium
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E228WFP 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1680*1050
    Hard Drives
    1TB RAID0 - WD5000AAKS *2
    320GB WD Passport
    PSU
    Corsair 650TX
    Case
    Cooler Master cm690
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000
    Mouse
    Razer Diamondback with Goliathus omega Control Edition
    Internet Speed
    512kbps ADSL
I have been browsing and found out from other forums that this is problem with speaker fill feature of Vista. Other sound cards are having the same problem with speaker fill. So some sound card manfucaturers have provided xp type speaker fill feature in their own mixer which directs sound to all speakers instead of doing any echo and reverb sh** like vista.

Yes, But when will Realtek release a fix for this... :sarc:
 

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Somebody please post the e-mail address of the Realtek Driver Support so that we can all bombard them with e-mails requesting a fix.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Assembled
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Pro
    Memory
    2*2GB DDR2 800Mhz Transcend JetRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX280 OC
    Sound Card
    Creative XFi Titanium
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E228WFP 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1680*1050
    Hard Drives
    1TB RAID0 - WD5000AAKS *2
    320GB WD Passport
    PSU
    Corsair 650TX
    Case
    Cooler Master cm690
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000
    Mouse
    Razer Diamondback with Goliathus omega Control Edition
    Internet Speed
    512kbps ADSL
Somebody please post the e-mail address of the Realtek Driver Support so that we can all bombard them with e-mails requesting a fix.

Sure, bhai, that is a *really* smart thing to do. piddle them off so they block you and you get no chance of a fix.

How about being adult minded about it instead?

Here is the email of Realtek technical support, ***removed***

Don't post even public email addresses in the forums.
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
    Manufacturer/Model
    The Beast Model V (homebrew)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
    PSU
    Thermaltake Black Widow TX TR2 850W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod ATX
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
    Cooling
    Corsair H100 (CPU, dual 140 mm fans on radiator) + Air (2 *
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15 (gen 2)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared)
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
  • Operating System
    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
    CPU
    AMD A6-5350M APU
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Lenovo
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
Somebody please post the e-mail address of the Realtek Driver Support so that we can all bombard them with e-mails requesting a fix.

Sure, bhai, that is a *really* smart thing to do. piddle them off so they block you and you get no chance of a fix.

How about being adult minded about it instead?

Here is the email of Realtek technical support, ***removed***

Don't post even public email addresses in the forums.

So we should keep the suggestions to ourselves and hope they get to know what we need telepathically?

If all the people with the problem send e-mails requesting a fix, they will implement it if possible or atleast add it to FAQs with an appropriate reply.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Assembled
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Pro
    Memory
    2*2GB DDR2 800Mhz Transcend JetRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX280 OC
    Sound Card
    Creative XFi Titanium
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E228WFP 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1680*1050
    Hard Drives
    1TB RAID0 - WD5000AAKS *2
    320GB WD Passport
    PSU
    Corsair 650TX
    Case
    Cooler Master cm690
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000
    Mouse
    Razer Diamondback with Goliathus omega Control Edition
    Internet Speed
    512kbps ADSL
No - you post a link that has the email address posted on *their* website. That is their business. Simple, and effective.
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
    Manufacturer/Model
    The Beast Model V (homebrew)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
    Motherboard
    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
    Memory
    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2 * 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD (System)
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD (User Tree)
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA II Mech. HD
    Seagate ST1500DL001-9VT15L Barracuda 7200.12 1.5 TB S
    PSU
    Thermaltake Black Widow TX TR2 850W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod ATX
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black)
    Cooling
    Corsair H100 (CPU, dual 140 mm fans on radiator) + Air (2 *
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15 (gen 2)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared)
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Lightspeed Gigabit duplex
  • Operating System
    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
    CPU
    AMD A6-5350M APU
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon HD (Embedded)
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Lenovo
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
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