GF8800GT XXX vs GF9600GT XXX

[amplid]

Hey guys,

Can somebody tell me why an 8800 GT XXX is more expensive than a 9600 GT XXX? (see snip)
Also does anyone have a good recommendation for a graphics card (nvidia)? I was going for the GF8800GT alpha dog ed. from XFX first, but I built it in my granddad's new pc two days ago and it's really Noisy! Not more than $250 please For the record I have a geforce 6600 now and not happy with its performance...

Greetings,

Amplid

 

[Spd2Last]

First of all, the 8800GT is a better card than the 9600GT. Even though it's been out for a couple of months already, the 8800GT is still a good, solid buy and that's the card I would recommend. I understand the noisy part because my 8800GT has the stock fan on it, but many companies have already built their own fans for the card. They provide better cooling and less noise.
Check this one out for example: MSI 8800GT 512Mb OC

 

[skunksmash]

let me say the 8800GT will destroy the 9600GT graphically

2x 9600s in SLI & then maybe they can be compared...

may i tempt you with one of these ..

dual slot cooler = quieter fan & cooler card

POV 8800GTS 8800 GTS 512 Point of View Geforce G92 on eBay, also Graphics Video Cards, Graphics, Video TV Cards, Desktop PC Components, Computing (end time 21-Jul-08 14:06:29 BST)

 

[amplid]

I find this difficult to understand because doesn't a higher number generally mean better? Or is this not the case? That's indeed a nice one act skunksmash Is that you who is selling? I'll definitely reconsider the 8800GT Spd2last, thanks.
This is a cool section, way cooler than general discussion:d

Greetings,

Amplid

 

[amplid]

Is this a good deal or what!! (But reliable...?)


Amplid

 

[skunksmash]

no that's a 'G80'' older technology

you want a ''G92'' 65nm

this one.....XFX NVidia GeForce 8800GT 512MB PCI-E 8800 GT ALPHA DOG on eBay, also Graphics Video Cards, Graphics, Video TV Cards, Desktop PC Components, Computing (end time 25-Jul-08 14:34:35 BST)

 

[ltwally]

I find this difficult to understand because doesn't a higher number generally mean better? Or is this not the case? That's indeed a nice one act skunksmash Is that you who is selling? I'll definitely reconsider the 8800GT Spd2last, thanks.
This is a cool section, way cooler than general discussion:d

Greetings,

Amplid

Both ATI and NVIDIA have their own screwing naming systems. In general, though, each company has a low-end, mid-end and high-end line.

For nVidia, anything "x000" - "x200" is low-end. Anything "x500" or "x600" is mid-end. And, anything "x800" or "x900" is high-end.

So, when you compare the cards, you don't compare the generation (ie. 6xxx, 7xxx, 8xxx, 9xxx), but you compare the mid-range of one generation against the mid-range of the next generation.

In this case, the comparison would be between 8600 and 9600.

Generally speaking, the previous generation's high-end will still out-perform the next generation's mid-end. If you want to beat an 8800, you'd need to pop for a 9800 or whatever.

It's not entirely logical. But that's marketing for you.

 

[amplid]

Aah now I understand! Hey thanks a lot itwally, I'm going to be looking for GPU's in a totally different way now!

Skunksmash, how do you know that? How can I tell for future card-shopping? That's the card that's in my grandpa's pc

Amplid

Amplid

 

[skunksmash]

Aah now I understand! Hey thanks a lot itwally, I'm going to be looking for GPU's in a totally different way now!

Skunksmash, how do you know that? How can I tell for future card-shopping? That's the card that's in my grandpa's pc

Amplid

Amplid

ok......

easy way to tell ''G80'' from ''G92'' is the on board ram

G80 = 768MB or 320MB or 640MB

G92 = 256MB or 512MB or 1GB
:D

 

[amplid]

Great man! I learn so much on the forum Anything else I should keep an eye out for?:D

Amplid

 

[ltwally]

Great man! I learn so much on the forum Anything else I should keep an eye out for?:D

Amplid

Well, if all you're interested in is pure performance: no.

However, video cards these days use an awful lot of power and throw off an awful lot of heat.

If you're like me, and are not a "serious gamer," then you may want to pay attention to how much power the card consumes, and how noisy its fan is. (A suprisingly large number of video cards have really noisy fans, and/or really lousy heat-sinks.)

In general: do your research before buying ANY video card. The online reviews may sometimes be biased by advertising dollars... but its still worth look at the heat/power/noise comparisons of different cards.

 

[amplid]

Yes that's what I should've done before buying that 8800GT from XFX. Super noisy! Thanks I'll take care of that!

Amplid

 

[swarfega]

I could be wrong here but isnt the 9600 similar in terms of range placing to the 8600? If so its not surprising that the 8800 is better.

 

[amplid]

Yes, that's what Itwally explained, see page 1.

Amplid

 

[SCSIraidGURU]

ATI 4870 is worth looking at for around $300. Don't go by numbers. They no longer have a true meaning with all the games being played.

 

[amplid]

Hmm, yes well ATI I have always found a bit repulsive actually, but in fact that's just stupid because I don't know it at all. I'm all into the geforce now, but maybe you're right and I should start looking at the ATI products...

Amplid

 

[amplid]

€140 for a BFG Geforce 8800GT OC2 512Mb.. Is this me or is that a very good (too good) price? Most 8800 GT's I've seen were around €170 and I've even seen the same BFG for €220...

Amplid

 

[ltwally]

Hmm, yes well ATI I have always found a bit repulsive actually, but in fact that's just stupid because I don't know it at all. I'm all into the geforce now, but maybe you're right and I should start looking at the ATI products...

Amplid

ATI has traditionally been better for the video decoding. When hardware MPEG2 decoding was a big deal a few years ago, their cards had the best performance and quality. Nowdays, h264 and mpeg4 are the biggies, and to my knowledge: ATI still dominates in this area. As well, they are reputed to have better quality TV-outs (hdmi, s-video, etc).

On the flip-side, nVidia usually has the most powerful for 3d-gaming. And, unless I'm mistaken: their cards typically (but not always) require more power and put off more heat.


Now, as far as driver quality goes... don't even get me started. Both companies have reputations for bloated and ever-buggier drivers. As each new GPU comes out, both companies just add new bloat to the same driver, and never seem to remove support for older cards. Ridiculous.

 

[ltwally]

€140 for a BFG Geforce 8800GT OC2 512Mb.. Is this me or is that a very good (too good) price? Most 8800 GT's I've seen were around €170 and I've even seen the same BFG for €220...

Amplid

I don't know anything about pricing in GB. For that matter, I don't really pay any attention to pricing in the States, until I want to buy something.

But I will say this: your monitor is absolutely tiny by today's standards.

If I were you, I would buy the cheaper video card and get a new 24" monitor.

 

[amplid]

Hehe, well for now I'm going to start by upgrading my PSU first, then GPU, then mobo and RAM and if I have some money left then I'll consider it, but those other things have bigger priority for me right now, because they're getting very outdated. Besides this one serves me right for now:D

Amplid