MSI R4890 Cyclone OC question

[naturalphenomen]

ah so just use ccc
okay

 

[naturalphenomen]

okay i did fur tests with 900 core clock,1100 memory clock and this thing isnt going above 60C its normal clocks are 880 and 975 should i push further or this thing will play anything i throw at it?

 

[naturalphenomen]

im noticing a diffrence between my 8800GT that the proccesser is better by like 18000 in vantage but the 5890 is at like 7000 but its graphics is like 2-3 times better on its rating is that the difference between ATI and Nvidia?

 

[smarteyeball]

ah so just use ccc
okay

Using the ATI overdrive in CCC is fine to a point. When that starts to fail, that is when you need extra volts which may or not help.

GpuTool - which I linked too (not CCC) - is the next step. This will let you test the capabilities with extra volts without applying them permanently.

im noticing a diffrence between my 8800GT that the proccesser is better by like 18000 in vantage but the 5890 is at like 7000 but its graphics is like 2-3 times better on its rating is that the difference between ATI and Nvidia?

That's because physx calculations are taken into account when running vantage and a nvidia card. Forget nvida card points. They are a different kettle of fish. it's the GPU score that counts. -as a reference.

okay i did fur tests with 900 core clock,1100 memory clock and this thing isnt going above 60C its normal clocks are 880 and 975 should i push further or this thing will play anything i throw at it?

Are you using GPU-Z to monitor temps? Core temp is one thing, mem is another and the VRM is another consideration. I'll explain the difference when I'm more lucid. In the interim, NO temps should go above 90c.

I'd concentrate on the core clock speed and leave the memory where it is for now. Ati overdrive will ramp up clock speeds on the default voltage. When hitting that wall, that's when bumping voltages comes into play.

As I said, lower clocked models are sold because essentially they are 'weaker' components. Raising voltages increases heat and as long as you the temps are within the parameters, this defines how far you should push it.

basically the end result equates to the difference of sustained minimum frame rate vs maximum framerate. max min is is better.

There is more i can add, but it's xmas day and I'm not all there atm..........

i could tell you to try this or try that - but flapping your card is something I'm trying to avoid with my advice. I'm taking the softly, softly approach. If you **** your card, it's not because of bad advice. It would be because you ignored it. Just remember, benchmark performance is one thing - game performance is another entirely.

 

[naturalphenomen]

Okay i checked my memory temp is running at like 75C at full load other below that. i downloaded GPU tool it says that my card does not support voltage control so i guess this is out of the question. ill just keep what i have if u think i should lower the memory clock to 1050 let me know it is running hot.

 

[smarteyeball]

Unfortunately (as you have discovered) some cards have had the voltage control removed. This just means you will have to use RBE to adjust it if need be

Memory temp of 75c is fine. They can handle up to 95-105c before the 'failsafe' kicks in - although you really should aim for no temps to get above 80c. Especially the VRM (voltage)


I personally don't use Furmark for testing - (too much uneeded stress on the card)

I just vantage plus a few games +crysis benchmark to check for artifacts and to monitor temps. it's not as 'thorough' as Furmark etc, but so far it's worked for me.

I'd leave the memory as it is and see if you can bump up the core clock and take it from there. Outside of benchmarks, in game framerate impact is minimal anyway (a couple of FPS at most)