Building a PC

[alexdagr8est]

you should actually get 2000mhz ddr3 if you really want to crank you computer (depends if you overclock or not)
You should DEFINITELY WAIT!
SATA 3 is coming out soon so waiiiiit!!!
intel's SSD's are going down in price, that by the time that windows 7 is out, they will more than 1/3 off the price they are now.
Gulftown CPU's come out q1 next year, 6 cores, overclockers heaven.
just wait man, if you go for it now, you will be angry with yourself when something rocking hits you next year

 

[thepizzaman]

ok well lets see its s single gpu...... and it gets 21 at 1980X1200 with 4AA,
and the 295 is a two gpu on one card...... and only gets 31 lets see.... that means its only wow 10fps slower, not a big difference, the real question is why can't your two core 295 do it? i mean really with the specs of a 295 it should be able to do it easy. but it can't so.... whats your point?

 

[thepizzaman]

you should actually get 2000mhz ddr3 if you really want to crank you computer (depends if you overclock or not)
You should DEFINITELY WAIT!
SATA 3 is coming out soon so waiiiiit!!!
intel's SSD's are going down in price, that by the time that windows 7 is out, they will more than 1/3 off the price they are now.
Gulftown CPU's come out q1 next year, 6 cores, overclockers heaven.
just wait man, if you go for it now, you will be angry with yourself when something rocking hits you next year

you mean the I9's? (uh oh....... that sounds alot like apple stuff now........ )

 

[thepizzaman]

but if your just ready to go ahead and spend some of that money :D you can go ahead and get your case and your psu haha

 

[Everlong]

everyone has said that they will be a flop because they picked some bad architecture, and only potentially for that matter the 5000 series has the potential to be 3x faster than the 4000 series, but that doesn't mean anything haha, and thats just to be safe never know what they might need haha

I guess you ready that on the Informer, or Register, can't remember which website had it, but he was basically talking out his arse and had no idea.

Where are you getting your numbers from? You're saying the 5000 series will be 3x faster, but before you said they will be 30% faster?

ok well lets see its s single gpu...... and it gets 21 at 1980X1200 with 4AA,
and the 295 is a two gpu on one card...... and only gets 31 lets see.... that means its only wow 10fps slower, not a big difference, the real question is why can't your two core 295 do it? i mean really with the specs of a 295 it should be able to do it easy. but it can't so.... whats your point?

Because Crysis doesn't scale well with SLI? A 295 isn't two GPUs on 1 card. It's two PCBs each with a 260 chips w/ unlocked cores stuck together, so it's 2 cards in 1 PCI-E slot. And with Crysis being such a resource hog, I would take all benchmarks done on that with a very small pinch of salt.

Look at a game that does scale well, like Farcry 2.

 

[thepizzaman]

everyone has said that they will be a flop because they picked some bad architecture, and only potentially for that matter the 5000 series has the potential to be 3x faster than the 4000 series, but that doesn't mean anything haha, and thats just to be safe never know what they might need haha

I guess you ready that on the Informer, or Register, can't remember which website had it, but he was basically talking out his arse and had no idea.

Where are you getting your numbers from? You're saying the 5000 series will be 3x faster, but before you said they will be 30% faster?

i was pointing out that potentiality it could be, all those guys are doing right now anyway is giving out numbers, personally i think it will only be %30-%50 faster maybe, and i made those numbers up haha i was saying for all you know they could be making that up about the gt300 series

ok well lets see its s single gpu...... and it gets 21 at 1980X1200 with 4AA,
and the 295 is a two gpu on one card...... and only gets 31 lets see.... that means its only wow 10fps slower, not a big difference, the real question is why can't your two core 295 do it? i mean really with the specs of a 295 it should be able to do it easy. but it can't so.... whats your point?

Because Crysis doesn't scale well with SLI? A 295 isn't two GPUs on 1 card. It's two PCBs each with a 260 chips w/ unlocked cores stuck together, so it's 2 cards in 1 PCI-E slot. And with Crysis being such a resource hog, I would take all benchmarks done on that with a very small pinch of salt.

Look at a game that does scale well, like Farcry 2.[/QUOTE]
eh same thing more or less.... its still two gpu's on one card because it has two 260 chips on it and ok yes far cry two........ crossfired 4890's are still faster i rest my case haha

 

[Everlong]

eh same thing more or less.... its still two gpu's on one card because it has two 260 chips on it and ok yes far cry two........ crossfired 4890's are still faster i rest my case haha

Not according to the Tom's Hardware graphic card charts

 

[thepizzaman]

tom's hardware never did a crossfire chart, i've looked so yea a SINGLE 4890 is beat by the 295, but two of them..... keep dreamin

 

[Everlong]

tom's hardware never did a crossfire chart, i've looked so yea a SINGLE 4890 is beat by the 295, but two of them..... keep dreamin

In the other thread you took the performance of the 4870x2, and a single 4890 and estimated the performance of a 4890 in CF based on a Tom's Hardware chart...

 

[thepizzaman]

hm... i don't remember that..... anyway the other charts show it as faster than the 295

 

[mattinahat]

,.,

 

[Everlong]

hm... i don't remember that..... anyway the other charts show it as faster than the 295

Ultimate Heavy-Weight Fight: Radeon HD 4890 CrossFireX vs. GeForce GTX 285 SLI (page 9) - X-bit labs

Like I said in the other thread, both card manufacturers have their ups and downs in their fair share of games, but when the 295 isn't Nvidia's best card setup, it can outperform a 4890 CF in some games.

 

[thepizzaman]

true....... but..... when the 5850, 5870, and 5870x2 come out..... hehe nivida gets to play catch up for a bit :D haha

 

[ShadowSniper]

I think I may get these parts and maybe wait till the 5XXX series comes out:

CPU: Newegg.com - Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
GPU: Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X 100269VXL Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
RAM: Newegg.com - Patriot Viper 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT36G1333ELK - Desktop Memory
HDD: Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - Internal Hard Drives
MOBO: Newegg.com - ASUS Rampage II Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
PSU: Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies
CASE: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
KEYBOARD: Newegg.com - RAZER RZ03-00181400-R3U1 Black 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Lycosa Mirror Special Edition Gaming Keyboard - Keyboards
MOUSE: Newegg.com - RAZER Lachesis Banshee Blue 9 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Laser 4000 dpi Gaming Mouse - Mouse
MONITOR: Newegg.com - ASUS VH202T Black 20" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 18000:1 Built in Speakers - LCD Monitors
DRIVE: Newegg.com - ASUS Black 6X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-Ray DVD Combo Drive Model BC-06B1ST - Blu-Ray Drives
SPEAKERS: Newegg.com - Bose® Companion® 2 Multimedia Speaker System - Speakers

So are these good for a $2000 budget?

 

[bruce2]

Hi Shadowsniper,

I would cut down on the case and the optical drive and put the money on the CPU and monitor. Blue ray drive is not very practical that this moment.

Here is a very nice monitor I recently purchased you may consider: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 2343BWX High Glossy Black 23" 5ms 16:9 Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000:1 (DC) w/ HDCP Support - LCD Monitors

The over priced Boss needs to be replaced with these much better ones below within the same price range.
Newegg.com - Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers - Speakers
or
Newegg.com - M-AUDIO Studiophile AV 30 2.0 Compact Desktop Speaker System - Speakers

Hope everything works out for you and enjoy!

Bruce

 

[thepizzaman]

no he should leave the case..... its gonna be much needed for the hot hardware (no pun intended)

 

[smarteyeball]

I think I may get these parts and maybe wait till the 5XXX series comes out:


So are these good for a $2000 budget?

Yep. It looks good, although I agree with bruce2 on the screen and speakers.

The 4890 will still give you good performance to tide you over while you wait until both ATI and Nvidia have released thier cards and have given them time to release maturer drivers and let the pries drop a bit.

 

[ShadowSniper]

Hi Shadowsniper,

I would cut down on the case and the optical drive and put the money on the CPU and monitor. Blue ray drive is not very practical that this moment.

Here is a very nice monitor I recently purchased you may consider: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 2343BWX High Glossy Black 23" 5ms 16:9 Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000:1 (DC) w/ HDCP Support - LCD Monitors

The over priced Boss needs to be replaced with these much better ones below within the same price range.
Newegg.com - Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers - Speakers
or
Newegg.com - M-AUDIO Studiophile AV 30 2.0 Compact Desktop Speaker System - Speakers

Hope everything works out for you and enjoy!

Bruce

If i get a better monitor it would cost, and go over my budget. But i will get the 5.1 system.
Also i should get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276 instead of the blu-ray drive, I may need a burner though...

 

[bruce2]

Hi Shadowsniper,

I would cut down on the case and the optical drive and put the money on the CPU and monitor. Blue ray drive is not very practical that this moment.

Here is a very nice monitor I recently purchased you may consider: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 2343BWX High Glossy Black 23" 5ms 16:9 Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000:1 (DC) w/ HDCP Support - LCD Monitors

The over priced Boss needs to be replaced with these much better ones below within the same price range.
Newegg.com - Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers - Speakers
or
Newegg.com - M-AUDIO Studiophile AV 30 2.0 Compact Desktop Speaker System - Speakers

Hope everything works out for you and enjoy!

Bruce

If i get a better monitor it would cost, and go over my budget. But i will get the 5.1 system.
Also i should get this: Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - CD / DVD Drives instead of the blu-ray drive, I may need a burner though...

This burner and case is all you need: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

 

[ShadowSniper]

Hi Shadowsniper,

I would cut down on the case and the optical drive and put the money on the CPU and monitor. Blue ray drive is not very practical that this moment.

Here is a very nice monitor I recently purchased you may consider: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 2343BWX High Glossy Black 23" 5ms 16:9 Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000:1 (DC) w/ HDCP Support - LCD Monitors

The over priced Boss needs to be replaced with these much better ones below within the same price range.
Newegg.com - Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers - Speakers
or
Newegg.com - M-AUDIO Studiophile AV 30 2.0 Compact Desktop Speaker System - Speakers

Hope everything works out for you and enjoy!

Bruce

If i get a better monitor it would cost, and go over my budget. But i will get the 5.1 system.
Also i should get this: Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - CD / DVD Drives instead of the blu-ray drive, I may need a burner though...

This burner and case is all you need: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

I will go with the burner but not the case, I'm sticking with the HAF.