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Installation & Upgrade Clean Install with a Full Version of Vista

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Thanks Shawn for confirming me of my initial thought of doing. I've read somewhere on this forum that you can only dual boot with the latest(upgraded) OS version as a primary boot drive but not the other way around. So, I will heed your advice and hopefully I will prefer the Ultimate.

Thanks again.
 

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You're welcome AbsentMinded.

There are ways around it, but it's pretty involved and a fresh install would be best to prevent problems from any potential mistake made try to work around it.
 

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What a disappointment:mad: and confusion:confused: !!!
I forgot to mention that the Home Basic is a laptop and quite old. It was a free gift so no complaint from me. Anyhow, I didn't realize that it only have 446mb of RAM. WHAT??? I thought Vista Basic only comes with the 512 mb of RAM(at least) as stated on the Microsft website:
Windows Vista recommended system requirements:
Home Basic

* 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor

* 512 MB of system memory
Is it possible that I might have lost some of the RAM elsewhere, such as Music files/Pictures/Antivirus or any heavy programs...e.t.c. If that's the case, it would still indicate the original Memory when it was built, correct?
Is there any way to increase my laptop's RAM w/o spending any $$$? I know it's inexpensive and I'm not a miser but I'm in a tight financial situation, therefore any $$$ can be saved is a great deal to me.

Thanks.
 

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Most likely you do have 512 MB of RAM, but have 56 MB of it dedicated to a integrated video chip. The only way to increase your though is to purchase and add more to your laptop, if the laptop can hold more or replace the current RAM sticks with larger size ones. :(
 

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Hi,

If i backed up all my important files onto an external and left it plugged in the PC then reformated Vista, will my external be wiped or clean as well or not? Should i unplugg it?
 

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Hello Joronamo,

It wil not be affect as long as you do not select it by mistake to install Vista on. ;)
 

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Yep, you just place the Vista installation DVD in the drive and restart the computer, then be sure to press a key (step 2) before the 8 seconds is up. :)
 

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Hi Brink, Great tutorial.

My laptops Win7/Vista dual boot, Vista has been acting up for a while. Finially found that among other things, there is no Windows Modules Installer in services, so no MS updates.

Tried sfc /scannow, found errors it couldn't fix.
Tried repair install, same issues as before and sfc /scannow came back with the same thing.
Tried restoring an Acronis image, didn't like that either, which was strange.

Quick review of the clean install of Vista tutorial, haven't done it in years, clean install and then try to restore the image again.

It's in the 'Completing installation' stage now but decided to go to spanish, and yes, I selected English and US keyboard at step 3.
Dell re-installation DVD, Home Premium 64bit.

So now, I'm using your tutorial for translation.

Hopefully, the image restore will take care if it.

 

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Hope this hasn't been asked yet.I read through most of the comments.
I have a OEM System Builder Pack that came with my desktop.It says it must be preinstalled
using the OEM Preinstallation Kit? Do I need this OPK?
I think this might be over my head, but I would really like to do a clean install
 

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Hope this hasn't been asked yet.I read through most of the comments.
I have a OEM System Builder Pack that came with my desktop.It says it must be preinstalled
using the OEM Preinstallation Kit? Do I need this OPK?
I think this might be over my head, but I would really like to do a clean install
Hello Sticks,

You could download an official Vista with Home Premium SP1 ISO file here: Microsoft: Vista Direct Download Links, and use Windows 7 USB-DVD Download Tool to create a bootable DVD or USB flash drive with the ISO.

Afterwards, you can use this DVD/USB to do a clean install of Vista in the tutorial on the first page here. :)

Be sure that you have your product key from the COA sticker on your computer first. You will not be able to activate Vista without it.

 

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Thank you again Brink
I will check this out,I have the product key so that's not a problem
I am thinking it might be better to just buy a windows 7 retail and install that instead
I don't use ms office/word so the price is not that bad
Maybe a new hard drive to :)
edit...with the sp1 would i be looking at a whole bunch of windows updates?
 

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Unfortunately, even with the SP1 already included in the installation disc, you'll still have quite a few more updates to install afterwards.
 

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Hello Brink, I plan on doing a clean install of vista 32 bit on my PC here in a few weeks. I was wondering ...hoping your self or someone you know would be willing - available to be with me on the phone to get me thru the bulk of it, I know people want to say its easy but when I do this I want to make sure its done perfectly - correct... in every aspect. Im saving all my files I want to keep on a thumb drive, another thumb drive has the factory Vista CD. If you would consider it I could maybe send you some gold on Facebook or something for your trouble. I considered getting Microsoft support to help but they need $100.00 for one issue or $150.00 for a years worth. My PC is running great actually except for a few minor but irratating as hell issues. I will share just one that happened today... I downloaded some recommended drivers at Dell.com today... one was for Drive E. CDrom drive... while it installed it stopped suddenly & said it wasnt for my system...lol funny since it was a recommended driver showing in the list right after it scanned my PC to verify my system, later I deleted the driver from the downloads folder since it didnt work then a bit later I happened to click computer on the decktop... it opened up & my E Drive was GONE !...lol Completly vanished... nowhere in the system, I tried to update or reinstall the driver & it says " cant find device " ! I had 3 drives C: - D: & E: ... now just C: & D: ... Anyway... I wait to hear back from you before I bore you with further details... One thing that troubles me is no matter if your just resetting or reinstalling Vista where it saves your files, or doing a full factory clean install... the instructions I have read so far everyone seems to do them both a little different as far as the steps they take. Thank you for your time & Post.....

Regards,

Dale... DBV1K1NG
 

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Hello Dale, :)

We do all support here in the forum, but I'll be here if you have any questions.

If you like, you can print out the tutorial to have handy to reference as needed during the clean install.
 

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Hello Dale, :)

We do all support here in the forum, but I'll be here if you have any questions.

If you like, you can print out the tutorial to have handy to reference as needed during the clean install.
******************* ******************* *******************

Hello Brink, TY for speedy reply... yes a print out that is like a step by step intructions list would be great... please advise how I can do that. Well I guess I have quite a few questions,

1. Is there a way to save program files so when you install them back to Vista they will still work as in exe. ?

2. I saved all 8 folders on C: drive except Windows... saved folders are .... Users - Program files - ProgramData - Dell - MDT -Intel - MATS - Perflogs... Is this correct ?

3. I guess " Users " saves all my pictures documents - Email & important info ect...Is there a way to re-install this folder so it saves all my settings in Windows Explorer & things like my Desktop & Icons ?

4. I didnt save any thing from D: drive.. is this correct ?

5. I have everything saved on 2 thumb drives, Vista on 1 & all the above folders on the other.. do I have both of these thumb drives plugged in when I start the clean Install ?

6. Lastly... for now anyway ...lol... sorry for so many questions, I can start the install by using F8. Dell has a program there that takes you through the install or do I use the thumb drive with the Vista install CD, do I select updates or no updates ?

Thank you so much for your time & help...

Regards,

Dale
 

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Hey Dale, :)

In Internet Explorer, you can click on File (menu bar) and Print to print the tutorial page.

Q1) Usually programs will need to be reinstalled after a clean install.

Q2) Those folder wouldn't be able to recovered after a clean install.

Q3) You'll want to back up any files inside your user folders (ex: Music, Documents, etc...) to another location. These files can be copied back afterwards.

Email is a different story. It depends on what email client program you are using, and what options is has to backup and restore.

Q4) It depends on if your D drive is just another partition on the same disk Windows is installed on, or a separate physical hard disk drive.

If on the same disk as Windows, then it'll get wiped out during a clean install.

If separate, then you are good to go. I would recommend to leave it disconnected until after finished installing Windows on the other drive to avoid Windows Setup possibly installing anything on it.

Q5) I would leave them disconnected until after the clean install is finished.

Q6) It depends on if you want to do a Dell factory recovery or a clean install.

F8 with the Dell program for a factory recovery to how it was when first out of the box.
 

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    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
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    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
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    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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    Corsair Air 740
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    Corsair Hydro H115i
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    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
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    300 Mb/s Download and 30 Mb/s Upload
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Creative F200 webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    Linksys EA9500 router,
    Arris SB6190 cable modem,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL,
    Lumia 1520 phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD